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Dale53
07-18-2008, 12:52 AM
I have a two Dillon 550B's for general reloading chores. I have long used a Lee Turret Press for those times when I only want to load a few rounds for testing, etc. Recently, I replaced the Lee Turret press with a new Lee Classic Turret press. For the uninitiated, the Classic is Lee's relatively new Cast Iron frame turret press with a longer stroke so it is more compatible with rifle cartridges.

I just recently set it up and started using it. I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered how much an advancement it is on the very good Lee Turret press. The design is very similar but much refined over the earlier Lee press. It is smoother, more precise feeling, and is very satisfying to use (good tools are ALWAYS more satisfying to use). I definitely recommend the Lee Safety Prime system which is optional (you save money buying for both the large and small primers at the same time). It speeds up the operation a good bit.

For those that are curious, I can say that it is relatively easy to turn out 150-200 rounds per hour (.45 Auto Rim, for example). If you haven't used one of the Lee Turret presses, you can change calibers in seconds, not minutes. That is very useful to me as I reload for a number of different calibers.

All in all, I am MORE than satisfied with my "Upgrade".

Dale53

DLCTEX
07-18-2008, 09:44 AM
+1 LOVE IT! If you use the auto disc powder measure you will need the auto disc riser to clear dies other than Lee. I reccomend the Pro Auto Disc ( or the update kit if you have the Auto Disc) as well as the swivel adapter. DALE

Dale53
07-18-2008, 12:17 PM
Dale (with a name like that, of COURSE you're correct[smilie=1:);

You are absolutely correct. The Pro Disc measure is WORLD'S better than the standard one (powder "turn-off" and easy (finger) removal of the powder hopper to change charge discs.

I have purchased auto riser's for all of my turrets. Definitely a good move.

Dale53

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
07-18-2008, 12:25 PM
The lovely thing about the Lee Classic Turret is the entire setup, in several calibers, can be had for less than the price of setting up a progressive in a single caliber. Additionally, the 200 round per hour count is plenty for most folks, even those in competition. Finally, adding calibers is really affordable, even if you include buying a powder measure for every turret.

Hard to find anything to criticize about the Lee Classic Turret.

Regards,

Dave

454PB
07-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Yup, it's one of the best kept secrets in handloading.

I've owned two of the older Lee turret presses for many years, so I have about 11 of the three hole turrets filled with dies. Rather than start over with the four hole turrets, I swapped out the top of the Classic for one of the older heads. I can now use all my old turrets, and if I want to use the four hole turret, it takes about two minutes to reinstall it.

Dale53
07-18-2008, 03:49 PM
I made the move to convert my old turret press to four holes as I really enjoy the Factory Crimp Dies in pistol calibers. I have long advocated a separate seating and crimping die. A four hole turret allows me to do that.

I sold my three hole turrets to someone on this forum. We both gained.

Dale53

jawjaboy
07-18-2008, 05:38 PM
I have the Deluxe Turret, the Classic turret, and a 550B. They all get used. Still warming up to the 550. The turret still hard to beat for many of the reasons above.

Southern Son
07-19-2008, 06:40 AM
I have just finished fitting my new Redding T-7 onto my reloading bench. It has replaced my old Simplex O-Frame (an Ozzy made RCBS O-frame). I got it for loading rifle stuff (use the 550 for pistol). The old O-Frame was OK, but most of the rifle stuff I load at the moment is BPCR, and you need to be able to switch between powder compression and seating/crimping (and when I get a taper crimp die, that will be one more), and the old Simplex was just a PITA. Just fooling around with it at the moment, but it is great to be able to size the case (I de-cap at the range) and then expand the neck without removing the case from the press.

dukers65
07-23-2008, 10:37 AM
+1 to the lee classic turret press. my rockchucker sees little use since i got my
lee. dan

USARO4
07-23-2008, 03:14 PM
I have both the old and new model turrets. Both are set up with the Lee safety prime and Pro auto disc. I use the old model 3 hole for revolver rounds and the new model 4 hole for semi auto rounds. The extra hole allows me to taper crimp. Both took a bit of tweaking, nothing really challenging, and now both perform flawlessly. I reload for about 20 differant calibers. I am very pleased with them both but have to admit the classic is best. For my humble reloading tasks I feel I have the dream set up. Both are auto index and I have never had the problems with this feature that others have complained of. All my dies are set up in extra disks so changing calibers is a snap.

lathesmith
07-23-2008, 09:07 PM
Most times, the ads hyping a product are, shall we say, way overdone. The Lee ads describe the Classic Turret as a "dream machine", and for me, I can't think of a better description. This is one time when the product lives up to the hype, at least for me. After using the Classic Turret, I got rid of some 3- or 4- odd presses I had lying around. That was when it first came out, and I have never looked back. Sometimes the Lee website will run the 4-hole turrets at less than half price, calling them "seconds". What a bargain! I also custom-fabricated a six-inch + "riser tube" for mine, and it handles loading my 45 Colt Pyrodex loads now as well. This is a really great machine!
lathesmith

Tom-n8ies
07-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I have been braging them up to all my shooting buddies and people who think they want to get into reloading. Most people turn their noses up when you tell them Lee. The Classic Turret is one press Lee definetly done right.

My only complaint is somtimes new primers pop out onto the floor instead of going into the primer cup.


tom

copdills
07-24-2008, 03:27 AM
+1 on the Lee Classic Turret Press, great Press for little money

Junior1942
07-24-2008, 07:29 AM
Dick Lee is the reloaders best friend. I swage, in two steps, .323" jacketed bullets down to .3155" for an overbore Mosin-Nagant. It was a hard job using my old press, so I decided to believe the hype and get a Lee Classic Cast press. Like "lathesmith" said, it twern't no hype. The hard job suddenly became easy. The Classic Cast is worth twice what Lee charges for it.

Heavy lead
08-10-2008, 01:31 PM
The Lee Classic Cast is awesome. One thing about the Lee presses that I think is sometimes left out of discussions is that the handle is fully adjustable on all of them. I have other brands and I tend to like the handles tilted forward on the Lee, my Hornady and RCBS I have don't have that feature and never feel quite right to me. I've got a four hole turret that I use on 38,357, (two seperate turret set ups), 41,44,45,454, and 475 linebaugh, all with seperate turrets and pro auto disc powder measures. I decap and size, tumble, then reprime off the press so I have an empty hole in the 4 turret head. The empty hole is between the powder through case expander die and the bullet seat die, this is for a visual inspection of the powder charge (I have a very bright light right above the bench) then of course I use the lee factory crimp die. It's simple and works, and I can visually inspect the powder charge. My old 3 die station turret (I took the auto index off) holds dies for 223,223ai, and 22-250. I set up the resizers on one turret, bullet seaters on another and another for power charging (I throw charges for these three cartridges. It's plenty strong enough for these cartridges. I've read a lot of bad press about the lee, but I've never broken anything on any of them. Now if Lee would start making a factory crimp die for the 475 I would be set!

RexDart
08-12-2008, 11:12 AM
My only complaint is somtimes new primers pop out onto the floor instead of going into the primer cup.

I had this problem, and also that of the primers ending up in the toggle arm cockeyed. Both issues had a common solution: the feed tube/rail is two halves that snap together. They had started to open up at the bottom, allowing the primers to skew as they were fed. Simply pressing the two halves back together fixed things, and I've not had a problem since.

I will add my paen of praise to the general chorus. I just started reloading last year, and after reading many threads like this one, chose the Lee Classic Turret, purchased in "kit" form from Kempf Gun Shop. Deciding factors:

Cost
Caliber flexibility/swappable turret system
Index or non-index, switchable w/o tools
Spent primer handling


I've been reloading .40SW for practice, and with increasing frequency to support my IDPA habit. I'm still fairly cautious (I check OAL and powder weight every 10th round, second guess myself often, etc.) but still can turn out 100-150 rounds/hr when I get going.

I am entirely satisfied. I have the production I desire for handgun ammo, can use it in non-indexing mode for milsurp rifle round building... it does what I need. I do eye the Hornady LnL ads, but I can't see needing that volume of production in the near future.

Dale53
08-12-2008, 12:13 PM
There is absolutely NO comparison to any other press PERIOD that for match quality production per dollar spent, the Lee Classic Turret stands heads and shoulders above the herd. A real piece of quality for a relatively small amount of money.

I have and use two Dillon 550B's for most of my quantity production. However, if circumstances forced me to only use the Lee Classic Turret you would NOT hear me gnashing my teeth and wailing my head off. It's that dern good for the dollars expended.

I DO love my Dillon's but this Lee is a dandy press. That is what I suggest to anyone just getting into loading. It's a auto advancing turret at single stage prices.

Dale53

Craig67
08-16-2008, 10:34 AM
X10 for the Classic Cast Turret Press.

I do 40 S&W and 7.62X39 on it. 100 rds of 40 in 45 min, X39 is a little slower because I have to scoop ( Using the Lee Powder Scoops) powder , guess I have to invest in another Auto Disc measure.

I love the priming system, priming right after resizing seems like doing 2 jobs at the same time.

I can't say enough good about this press.

A Classic Cast (Single Stage) is going to replace my Challenger in the near future.

Craig

PatMarlin
08-17-2008, 11:22 AM
I waited and waited to buy a Redding T-7 turret press, but always held up because of funds and I'm really glad I did cause that classic turret is no joke.

I really am beginning to like it better than my 550B. All the money I have in that over the years with shell plates etc., and I find myself reaching for the Classic every time. Now my challneger o press and my classic single stage get used more as powder measure stands than anything.. :mrgreen:

Castoff
08-18-2008, 09:30 AM
While admittedly not the most knowledgelable reloader on the planet, I have been at it for 40 years and have found the Lee products to be of quality and value.
I have stopped using Dillon presses as a result of the unreliable primer mechanism of the 650 press and the very inaccurate powder measures Dillon makes. By Dillon's own words, their powder measure will only throw a charge with a variance of plus or minus 1.5 grains.
This is just too dangerous for me.

Nueces
08-18-2008, 11:55 AM
Well, you nailed the two big Dillon hickeys right there. I've had to tune and retune my RL450 priming system (files, lube, cuss words), but they work well now, as long as I watch carefully, which is not bad practice when loading anyway.

The Redding powder measure also works well. :roll: It's hand-thrown, but accurate. I don't have time-motion numbers, but my impression is that overall production rates did not suffer very much, because of fewer stoppages and goofs.

Mark

It occurred to me to mention that I've installed a mini spot lamp that illuminates the mouth of the just-charged case. I visually confirm the powder charge before putting the slug in place.

Dale53
08-18-2008, 03:06 PM
My Dillon 550B's (I have two) have been utterly reliable in every regard. I have loaded tens of thousands of various calibers, both rifle and pistol, without problems.

My Dillon's powder measure is SPOT ON with 231, 5066, Bullseye, Unique, and H110 (incl WC 820). I mostly use ball powders, even in rifle, as they measure so well.

Dale53

dukers65
08-23-2008, 04:45 AM
it is a vaery good press at a reasonable price.add to that how easily and
and how inexpensive the turrets are,you begin to understand its' popularity. dan

405WIN
09-07-2008, 09:18 PM
Well. I to must express my joy with the Classic Turret. I have been using two Loadmasters for a few years now and yes sometimes I want to pull my hair out.
I bought the Classic turret because LEE doesn't make a shell plate for the 475 Linebaugh. Besides, I just needed an excuse to buy one. I was so pleased with it that I purchased an extra die head and started loading 32-20's with it. Same great results. O.k, how about the 38-40. Great also. I then switched my 10mm auto dies to it and am haveing of course great results.
If not for the speed of the Loadmaster when it is working properly, I would change all of my dies calibers to the Turret. I load about 10 different handgun calibers on a regular basis. I would highly reccomend it to anyone looking for a great tool. I can load 200 rounds an hour.

870TC
09-07-2008, 10:59 PM
I have to agree with Dale53. I've had a Dillon 550 for years, loaded many thousands of rounds each year with no problems. My Dillon powder measure is as accurate as, my RCBS uniflow or the old Lyman 55 I used to have.

enfieldphile
09-07-2008, 11:29 PM
I love my LEE Classic Cast Turret Press!

W/ a Pro Disk Powder measure & primer feed you can really turn out the ammo!

I have 3 turrets set up now, one for .45 acp/AutoRim, one for .38/357, and one for .44 Special/.44Mag

I use the LEE 4-dies sets. The LEE carbide crimp die is not used though for .45acp, for that I finish up w/ a LEE Taper Crimp die.

hedgehorn
09-08-2008, 09:33 PM
I wish I would have bought one long before I did. I really think that they are well built and a great value. ;)

PatMarlin
09-09-2008, 07:20 AM
Bought 10 turrets on sale last year at Midway for less than $5 a piece.

That's enough and a lot of set ups.

OldBob
09-30-2008, 06:08 AM
Well, I read all the good stuff about these so I went and sold my Lyman T-Mag and bought one. Man am I ever sorry I did............... NOT !! The hype about these is all true, I couldn't be more pleased. I mounted my Lyman 55 measure on the powder-thru die for now, until my Lee Pro Auto measure gets here and it works well, loaded a batch of .45 ACP last night and it was just amazing how fast and flawlessly this works.

docone31
09-30-2008, 02:05 PM
Every once in a whle I have to click my turret but aside from that, for the price, it is GREAT!
I had some Lyman stuff for a while, now I am all Lee.

John Boy
09-30-2008, 02:24 PM
Bought 10 turrets on sale last year at Midway for less than $5 a piece. Pat - nice score. I missed that one.

I do all my rifle reloads with the Lee and:
One thing I don't like about the Lee 3 or 4 holers ... the die plate moves up when the shell goes in any of the dies. I reload to specific COAL's. But the issue has been resolved ... put a C-clamp on the the turret to hold it to the press.

Pistol calibers - Dillon 550B ... IS THE PRESS!

Dale53
09-30-2008, 04:17 PM
John Boy;
I don't understand your problem. The die plate moves against the top of the press and it is consistent in it's movement. That is one of the GREAT things about the Lee Classic Turret. Other turret presses tend to "tilt" when pressure is applied while the Lee Turret moves up against the precision machined surface of the inside top of the press for absolutely consistent and well aligned cartridges.

Dale53

Heavy lead
09-30-2008, 04:29 PM
John Boy;
I don't understand your problem. The die plate moves against the top of the press and it is consistent in it's movement. That is one of the GREAT things about the Lee Classic Turret. Other turret presses tend to "tilt" when pressure is applied while the Lee Turret moves up against the precision machined surface of the inside top of the press for absolutely consistent and well aligned cartridges.

Dale53

Me neither, it's very consistant and straight up and more importantly square.

JudgeBAC
10-06-2008, 10:04 PM
Just took the plunge on a Lee Turret. I really like the press. My only complaint is I have so many sets of RCBS dies and the lock rings are too big and you cannot place two dies side by side without replacing the lock rings with Lee lock rings. Small price to pay I suppose for a well thought out turret press.

454PB
10-06-2008, 10:29 PM
I use RCBS dies in my Lee. I just remove the lock ring set screw.

Dale53
10-07-2008, 12:03 AM
The "new" Dillon small lock rings (1" across the flats) are available for $1.05 each and a bag of those will solve the lock ring problem for both the Lee Classic Turret and the Dillon 550B. I got enough to change all of my die sets. Dillon also makes an inexpensive wrench to fit them. They leave enough room between the dies to make adjustments MUCH easier than the stock lock rings.

FWIW
Dale53