PC scraping off when loading...any suggestions?

[Tripplebeards]

194604

Any suggestions on how to keep from scraping PC off the corners of my
Bullets when loading? About one in 3 this is happening too...this is a pic of the worst one.

[gpidaho]

Tripplebeards; Do a smash test to check your cure. At the point of the scrape on the bullet shown it will make no difference except for beauty points. PC only needs to cover the portion of the bullet that makes contact with the bore. Gp

[Beagle333]

That scrape won't hurt, but it shouldn't be happening. Do check the cure. Also, you might try a flat seating plug. I bet you have a cupped plug and it's only contacting those boolits on the edge of the meplat. There are many options to put something in the cup to make a flat plug if you don't want to have one permanently flat.
But it still shouldn't do that to the coating, even as a cup plug.

[Lakehouse2012]

My guess with that blunt shape is maybe hitting the loading die too sharply?

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[Tripplebeards]

I'm using a rcbs carbide 3 die set with the flat plug. I put a bullet in it loose and it fits with not a lot of play. I'm guessing its catching if I dont have the casing/bullet perfectly centered but you would think the powder coating would be a little tougher? It sure didn't come off when I ran it through my lee sizer die.

[Grmps]

My flat and round plug did that until I 1) enlarged the radius of the round plug to come to a sharp edge 2) ground the flat plug completely flat (my flat plug had a lip around it) . No problems with either now. Lately I have been seating both round and flat tip bullets with the flat plug, not enough pressure to deform the bullet. My seating plugs were not carbide.

[Traffer]

Are you getting any lube or contaminant on the bullets before pcing them?

[Tripplebeards]

No lube. I was thinking of grinding the lip off the seater plug as well. Ill do it when I get back from turkey hunting this morning.

[Smk SHoe]

That's a whole lot of crimp on that round.

[Tripplebeards]

That's a whole lot of crimp on that round.

And I thought I was a little light on it compaired to the three different factory rounds I have laying around. I have some pretty heavy charges and I don't want the bullets to shift at my rifles recoil. No gobbling this morning...time to pack it in and go grind the lip off my seater plug.


194623

[Tripplebeards]

Fixed the issue...now I just have to keep my thumb and finger around the bullet and slowly raise it...I dented a couple, they hit the side of the die...194665194666194667194668

The ones I dented...
194669

[Tripplebeards]

I'm going to file it just a little again. I can see see in the above pic that the middle of the seater die made a ring in the middle of the bacon grease bullet. I lightened up on the crimp too.

[Tripplebeards]

194670

A couple swipes with sandpaper and polished it with mothers.

[Bama]

Another way I have used that works well is to file a grove on the bullet and load it up with valve grinding compound and use a variable speed drill. it may take a couple of bullets but results in a prefect fitting punch. All my rifle bullet punches are fitted using this process.

[RP]

So simple of a fix great thinking funny how we miss so many simple fixes now days I have to make a note of this one

[Tripplebeards]

So simple of a fix great thinking funny how we miss so many simple fixes now days I have to make a note of this one

it would make a good sticky

[TexasGrunt]

Flat nose bullet = flat nose seating stem.

[bluejay75]

Seat with a 45 Colt Seater die. Its the only way I don't scrape .432 or.433 bullets.

[Sur-shot]

There is another fix, stop using a roll crimp die and go to a taper or profile crimp. Use the roll crimp die to seat only, no crimp, then crimp without touching the bullet.
Ed

[TexasGrunt]

There is another fix, stop using a roll crimp die and go to a taper or profile crimp. Use the roll crimp die to seat only, no crimp, then crimp without touching the bullet.
Ed

Please explain how changing crimp is going to keep the bullet seater from scraping PC off the nose of the bullet.

[Grmps]

Flat nose bullet = flat nose seating stem.

Some flatnose seating stems have a lip around them. Don't have a clue why. I just grind it off and all is well.

SS This is what a roll crimp die looks like, the crimping shoulder can't contact the tip of the bullet.

http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/gif/bullet_seat_crimp.gif

[Tripplebeards]

194670

A couple swipes with sandpaper and polished it with mothers.

You would think die makers would manufacture it this way for the flat nose bullet. It came with this plug and a conical. Rcbs sent me a 45 cal barnes plug to seat leverrution bullets...which it makes a ring around the bullet when I seat them. I polished the inside of it and will have to wait till I load some up to see how I did.

[Tripplebeards]

I didn't want to waste a blue bullet since they were all gas checked so I grabbed one of my zombie killers with a single coat of paint. Came same day from same supplier.
That is some hard lead. It took me a good 15-20 wacks with a hammer on my side walk...194957

That flat piece of lead was hotter than heck after I gave it a beating. The first couple of wacks hitting it from top to bottom didn't even fase it or make it look like it was hit.

[RP]

You must be using a finishing hammer next time grab a 22oz framing hammer :kidding:

[Grmps]

commercial bullets are mostly 2-6-92 , 15 - 18 bhn -- to me, to hard for most hand guns loads. I believe they cast that hard to maintain bullet integrity in shipping.

I don't like swinging hard so I use a 2# sledge (more like a heavy hammer) for smash testing.

[bluejay75]

If you flare enough to cover 2-3 thou over SAAMI, most seater dies will want to start removing the flare. As the flare is removed it catches the bullet.

I use 45 Colt for 44
44 for 41 and 359
358 for 30 caliber.

It works.