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Artful
04-18-2017, 03:13 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/02/22/__trashed-21/


The rumor we reported on earlier (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/14/rumor-mill-ice-adopt-sig-p320/) appears to now be official: Immigration and Customs Enforcement has adopted the SIG (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=4QTqTE2A0IfgGrIsIbqfLQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F97 4119%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-18x-44mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-974119%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%203-18x%2044mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2099.99&SKU=974119) P320C as their next service handgun (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=Ch9QQHNeu0-hFK4GwozFjw%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fha ndguns%2Fsemi-auto%2F1911-x-tac-handgun-45acp-5-light-rail-armor-tuff-finish-sku965000232-85172-181142.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-965-000-232%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_ca mpaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D965-000-232%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26g dfms%3D3C3F1F854FD84EC1A302D2766D934542&DealName=Wilson%20Combat%201911%20X-Tac%20Handgun%2045acp%20-%201911%20X-Tac%20Handgun%2045acp%205%22%20Light%20Rail%20Armo r-Tuff%20Finish&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2799.99&SKU=965000232-965000232-370017). News of SIG’s win was confirmed by a post on pistol-forum.com (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?24441-It-s-Official-SIG-P320C-is-the-new-ICE-HSI-duty-gun) containing a leaked screenshot of a new article on ICE’s internal website, with the headline ICE Picks a New Service Handgun.
The contract, probably worth well over ten million dollars, has its origins in a 2015 Request for Information (RFI) (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=18c141b6696370748ca403a9802fd888&tab=core&_cview=0) issued by the agency. Speculation surrounded the RFI that it was tailored specifically for SIG (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=4QTqTE2A0IfgGrIsIbqfLQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F97 4119%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-18x-44mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-974119%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%203-18x%2044mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2099.99&SKU=974119) – although the specifications were not so unambiguous that some didn’t speculate S&W as the favorite! (http://weaponsman.com/?p=21719) In this case, SIG (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=4QTqTE2A0IfgGrIsIbqfLQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F97 4119%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-18x-44mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-974119%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%203-18x%2044mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2099.99&SKU=974119) was defending their previous contract: The P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) will be replacing the agency’s old P229DAK handguns, also from SIG.
A contract like this one, which would normally be the biggest news of the year for a gun company, is overshadowed by SIG Sauer’s recent win of the massive US Army Modular Handgun System contract (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/19/us-armys-next-gun-sigs-p320-compact-mhs-shot-17/), worth an estimated $580 million dollars. However, the Immigration contract win is still very significant forSIG Sauer (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) in another way, as two wins at major US government contracts in the span of a month is a huge boost to the brand’s reputation.
followed by

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/13/breaking-fn-protests-p320-selection-immigration-customs-enforcement/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-04-18&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter



FN Protests P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) Selection By Immigration & Customs EnforcementIt looks like FN America has stepped up to the plate this time to protest Immigration & Customs Enforcement’s selection of the Sig (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=4QTqTE2A0IfgGrIsIbqfLQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F97 4119%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-18x-44mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-974119%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%203-18x%2044mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2099.99&SKU=974119) P320 as their new duty sidearm. Previously, Nathaniel F. reported on the selection of the P320 and how that will go a long way to boost the credibility of the brand, you can read his post here (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/02/22/__trashed-21/). Does the second protest for a large contract won by Sig (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=4QTqTE2A0IfgGrIsIbqfLQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F97 4119%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-3-18x-44mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-974119%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%203-18x%2044mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2099.99&SKU=974119) have implications of a design flaw or is this business as usual?

FN has lodged two separate protests for the same contract, read the first one HERE (http://www.gao.gov/docket/B-414487.1) and the second on HERE (http://www.gao.gov/docket/B-414487.2).
There have been rumors of a couple of failures with the P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) specifically failing the drop test as well as loaded magazines (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=623&code=623&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=pczqUZ8e5ayeZfQFnFEHpQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F46 3177%2Fcz-magazine-scorpion-evo-3-s1-9mm-luger-20-round-polymer-translucent%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Gunsmithing%2B-%2BMagazines%2B-%2BPistol%2B-%2B11%252B%2BRounds-_-CZ-_-463177%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=CZ%20Magazine%20Scorpion%20EVO%203%20S1%2 09mm%20Luger%2020-Round%20Polymer%20Translucent&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=17.99&SKU=463177) disassembling themselves when dropped. Below is the FBI drop test specs that theP320 has been rumored to have failed.

7) PISTOL DROP TEST
A) Three pistols from each class will be selected for this test.
i) Each of the pistols (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F3 56740%2Fhyskore-parallax-pistol-vise-and-shooting-rest%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_connexity-_-Shooting%2B-%2BRests%252C%2BBi-Pods%2B%2526%2BBenches-_-Hyskore-_-356740&mid=77064&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=&oid=6045329756&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=10&bamt=800b1dfd6ce483fd&cobrand=1&ppr=ea6316be792c3b6c&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=26865&af_placement_id=1&dv=f861790867257227b67b514579884ca8) will be cleaned & lubricated per the Offeror’s recommended
specifications.
b) Each pistol will be loaded with a primed cartridge case in the chamber and amagazine
filled to capacity with service cartridges (54227).
c) The pistol (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F3 56740%2Fhyskore-parallax-pistol-vise-and-shooting-rest%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_connexity-_-Shooting%2B-%2BRests%252C%2BBi-Pods%2B%2526%2BBenches-_-Hyskore-_-356740&mid=77064&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=&oid=6045329756&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=10&bamt=800b1dfd6ce483fd&cobrand=1&ppr=ea6316be792c3b6c&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=26865&af_placement_id=1&dv=f861790867257227b67b514579884ca8) will then be dropped from a height of 48” onto smooth concrete in the
following manner:
i) Muzzle down
ii) Muzzle up
iii) Sights down
iv) Magazine down
v) Right side down
vi) Left side down
There is no indication of what pistol (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F3 56740%2Fhyskore-parallax-pistol-vise-and-shooting-rest%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_connexity-_-Shooting%2B-%2BRests%252C%2BBi-Pods%2B%2526%2BBenches-_-Hyskore-_-356740&mid=77064&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=&oid=6045329756&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=10&bamt=800b1dfd6ce483fd&cobrand=1&ppr=ea6316be792c3b6c&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=26865&af_placement_id=1&dv=f861790867257227b67b514579884ca8) FN America entered into the competition, but it has been rumored that their MHS submission was the FN 5.7 pistol. I am not sold on this, but there is no solid information out there to indicate otherwise.
With the new protest on the heels of Glock’s protest of the MHS contract being awarded to the P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=617&code=617&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170417051219&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) it starts to raise some questions. Either way, we will update you as we learn more about both protests.