86,000 Garands Headed to CMP

[308Jeff]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/07/breaking-civilian-marksmanship-program-receive-86000-m1-garand-rifles-philippines/

The Civilian Marksmanship Program has received confirmation that the Philippine government will be shipping 86,000 M1 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=r8KWPg4NzuTXsstR-5jiTA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fri fles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm1-lightweight-16-5in-45-acp-blue-30-1-sku100401054-88660-185149.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-054%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_ca mpaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-054%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26g dfms%3D3B97D53CCE1C4EA684146FFF988933CF&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5 in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%2030%2B1rd%20-%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%203 0%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170407051310&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=999.99&SKU=100401054-100401054-370018) Garand rifles back to the United States for distribution to American civilian shooters. Gina Johnson, General Manager of CMP South in Alabama, confirmed the upcoming delivery with the administrators of the M1 Garand Enthusiasts Group Facebook page:

Charles Baker just to clarify…CMP will be receiving the rifles (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftracking.searchmarketing.com%2Fc lick.asp%3Faid%3D730010300001018010&mid=31509&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=5860343014&oid=7240270472&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=8&bamt=c2fec4801cf73b20&cobrand=1&ppr=0dedcd013137ae33&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=40beea51a1fc3be61db5b3f94911ae24) once the Philippines prepares them for shipment. CMP only has to pay the transportation cost of getting these rifles (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftracking.searchmarketing.com%2Fc lick.asp%3Faid%3D730010300001018010&mid=31509&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=5860343014&oid=7240270472&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=8&bamt=c2fec4801cf73b20&cobrand=1&ppr=0dedcd013137ae33&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=40beea51a1fc3be61db5b3f94911ae24) back as they have with every other shipment sent to us. We do not know when these rifles will be shipped back, but they have been approved.


This is one of the largest shipments of M1 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=r8KWPg4NzuTXsstR-5jiTA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fri fles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm1-lightweight-16-5in-45-acp-blue-30-1-sku100401054-88660-185149.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-054%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_ca mpaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-054%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26g dfms%3D3B97D53CCE1C4EA684146FFF988933CF&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5 in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%2030%2B1rd%20-%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%203 0%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170407051310&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=999.99&SKU=100401054-100401054-370018) Garand rifles back to the US in recent years, and since the CMP only has to pay the cost to ship the rifles back to America (as the guns are already owned by the US government), it’s likely that these will come in at a very affordable cost relative to the wider M1 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=r8KWPg4NzuTXsstR-5jiTA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fri fles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm1-lightweight-16-5in-45-acp-blue-30-1-sku100401054-88660-185149.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-054%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_ca mpaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-054%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26g dfms%3D3B97D53CCE1C4EA684146FFF988933CF&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5 in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%2030%2B1rd%20-%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%203 0%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170407051310&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=999.99&SKU=100401054-100401054-370018) Garand market. In other words, this is your big chance to pick up one of General George S. Patton’s “most deadly rifle (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftracking.searchmarketing.com%2Fc lick.asp%3Faid%3D730010300001018020&mid=31509&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=4212197477&oid=7240246079&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=8&bamt=c2fec4801cf73b20&cobrand=1&ppr=b7f6e8b59759a546&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=40beea51a1fc3be61db5b3f94911ae24) in the world” for yourself!

If you are interested in buying one of these CMP M1 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=1008&BEFID=96424&acode=1017&code=1017&aon=&crawler_id=481999&dealId=r8KWPg4NzuTXsstR-5jiTA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ffirearms%2Fri fles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fm1-lightweight-16-5in-45-acp-blue-30-1-sku100401054-88660-185149.aspx%3Fcm_mmc%3Dcse-_-Itwine-_-shopping-_-100-401-054%26utm_medium%3Dcse%26utm_source%3Decn%26utm_ca mpaign%3Ditwine%26utm_content%3D100-401-054%26gdffi%3D5e517ec5e60d4cc7bbc235bfc648114c%26g dfms%3D3B97D53CCE1C4EA684146FFF988933CF&DealName=Auto%20Ordnance%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5 in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%2030%2B1rd%20-%20M1%20Lightweight%2016.5in%2045%20Acp%20Blue%203 0%2B1&MerchantID=481999&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170407051310&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=999.99&SKU=100401054-100401054-370018) Garands when they hit the CMP store and haven’t gone through the process of CMP approval before, be sure to check out my two-part article (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/12/04/how-do-you-buy-a-rifle-from-the-cmp-part-1-putting/) on how to qualify and get your very own M1 rifle. (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/12/05/how-to-buy-a-firearm-from-the-cmp-part-2-ordering-your-weapon/) It’s a very special feeling to have a rifle (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftracking.searchmarketing.com%2Fc lick.asp%3Faid%3D730010300001018020&mid=31509&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=4212197477&oid=7240246079&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=8&bamt=c2fec4801cf73b20&cobrand=1&ppr=b7f6e8b59759a546&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=40beea51a1fc3be61db5b3f94911ae24) shipped directly to your door, courtesy of the US government (via the CMP), and I highly recommend to everyone that can to try it at least once!

[Moleman-]

Sweet!

[Kevinakaq]

Wonderful news and thank you for the heads up! Will definitly be looking for them to show up.

[rancher1913]

marked for further study.

[HollowPoint]

I remember qualifying back in the day. It was so long ago I can't remember how old I was though. I think I was still in my twenties.

The reason I remember it so well was because the qualifying was done on a mid-summer weekend. On that particular summer weekend, the temperatures reached into the 120 degree mark here in the Arizona desert. With very little shade and only soda and sparse water supplied by the organizers, it was really, really hot; dangerously hot.

I remember qualifying but I never did get a rifle because the day after that I was laid up for nearly a year due to complications from exposure to that amount of heat. I'm not blaming anyone but myself for not drinking more water and trying harder to stay cool but, damn; I missed out big time. Maybe this incoming batch of M1's can serve as my redemption.

HollowPoint

[308Jeff]

I remember qualifying back in the day. It was so long ago I can't remember how old I was though. I think I was still in my twenties.

The reason I remember it so well was because the qualifying was done on a mid-summer weekend. On that particular summer weekend, the temperatures reached into the 120 degree mark here in the Arizona desert. With very little shade and only soda and sparse water supplied by the organizers, it was really, really hot; dangerously hot.

I remember qualifying but I never did get a rifle because the day after that I was laid up for nearly a year due to complications from exposure to that amount of heat. I'm not blaming anyone but myself for not drinking more water and trying harder to stay cool but, damn; I missed out big time. Maybe this incoming batch of M1's can serve as my redemption.

HollowPoint

I remember it was a very hot day when I qualified as well. I did it about 7 years ago at Rio Salado.

[HollowPoint]

I remember it was a very hot day when I qualified as well. I did it about 7 years ago at Rio Salado.

If you're referring to the shooting range over on Usery-Pass, that's exactly where we were at when I qualified. At the time, they hadn't yet built the shade-awnings and shooting benches they have now. We were out in the open with only make-shift tarps put up to keep the ammo from overheating.

HollowPoint

[avogunner]

Now we just have to get those Garands and Carbines back home from S. Korea too!

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[Larry Gibson]

Excellent news.....

Larry Gibson

[TCLouis]

Great news for those wanting to buy one, may well depress the sellers market for a while.

When we get to the 19 dollar Carbines I will be there.

[TNsailorman]

Don't hold your breath on the cost. CMP does not sell rifles "cheap". The old DCM sold rifles far less than market value ($20.00 for 1911's and $90.00 for M1 Garands) but you will never see CMP selling them below market value. CMP is a civilian outfit and operates as such. Not bad mouthing them, just stating the facts. I have bought off them and was treated very well. I will be very happy to see M1 Garands coming back home and hope M1 Carbines will follow. james

[308Jeff]

If you're referring to the shooting range over on Usery-Pass, that's exactly where we were at when I qualified. At the time, they hadn't yet built the shade-awnings and shooting benches they have now. We were out in the open with only make-shift tarps put up to keep the ammo from overheating.

HollowPoint

Sure am. Same place. Couldn't imagine doing it without shade though. That would be truly brutal. You definitely earned yours.

[Char-Gar]

No house is a home without a good Garand! I bought mine 15 years ago for $450.00 and it is minty. Springfield receiver that was rebuilt at Red River Arsenal in 1965. It is not one that is returned from a foreign country.

[psweigle]

Can't wait for some 30 carbine to come home.

[308Jeff]

Char-Gar, they really are beautiful, aren't they? Parkerization and Walnut make a beautiful pair.

[308Jeff]

Hoping these will result in $595.00 Service Grade Garands.

If the Korean Garands and Carbines come back, we could even see sub-$1,000 Carbines.

[bruce drake]

CMP will not drop their current prices simply because they are going to get a restocking of rifles from the Phillipines.
The big issue will be how many "hoarder-collectors" will converge like vultures on Anniston and Perry, the very first day the rifles are available for purchase.
Me...I just need a decent receiver and I'll build my own!

[country gent]

These rifles have been used and then stored for many years a lot is going to depend on the care and how they were stored. When Korea started a lot of the garands stored after ww2 were surveyed out and unfit and sent for rebuild due to poor matenince and storage.

[ShooterAZ]

How many of these rifles will even meet service grade criteria is what I'd like to know. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I bought a CMP "Rack Grade" back in the first days of the Greek returns for $295, and it's my best shooter by far. Metal was almost perfect, but the stock looked like it was run over by a tank. I replaced it with a SA USGI set that I already had. I bought several grades of the "Greeks" including Collector, Correct, and service and rack. The grading has changed drastically since I first bought my M1's, and I have to say that I would not buy a rack grade ever again from the CMP. At a minimum, pay the $$$ for service grade or above now. I'm sure the Korean and Philippine imports will be a carp shoot. Luck of the draw I suppose. Good luck.

[wrench man]

It still seems to me a serious PAIN! to meet their “ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS”?? and what are they going to cost?

[prsman23]

Easiest way to meet the requirements is to subscribe to their magazine and get a c&r.


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[TNsailorman]

I should have bought a carbine receiver while they did had some. But like always, I procrastinated and lost out. I'll wait and see what if anything shows up and if a decent receiver or complete rifle is in the offing, I'll pull the trigger fast this time. Ammo might be a problem--or maybe not. I see Starline is selling .30 carbine brass now. As Hicko45 says, life is good. james

[wrench man]

And to add even more insult to the situation, the local range where I was going to go to get my shooting qualifications, according to their facebook page are closing their doors this week!?

[stubshaft]

I shot the CMP matches to buy a Garand in the eighties. You could not pick what you wanted and got what they sent you, but at $165.00 how could I go wrong? A few moths after sending my paperwork in I received a cardboard box with a cosmoline (yup, the real cosmoline) covered mess inside. After cleaning it up I was pleasantly (jumped for joy) surprised to find a Harrington Richardson Garand with matching numbers. It was/is so pretty I bought another one from a friend (plain Jane Springfield Armory) just to shoot.

[gnostic]

I sure hope they look better than the ones from Korea, the one I bought in the 90's needs a new barrel...

[308Jeff]

Can you imagine how cool it would be to work for the CMP and get to be the one who opens those crates?

[LUCKYDAWG13]

I wonder if they ever find anything stuck in the but plate besides a cleaning kit
Will there be any 03A3

[MUSTANG]

Maybe they'll send a few million 8 round en-bloc clips back to the US also.

[EDG]

Since these are US property the Phils probably spent nothing taking care of them. Indifferent storage in a tropical island nation will probably result in a lot of rusty junkers to be cannibalized.

[308Jeff]

I'd like to think that since they're US property that there's been some oversite on the storage. I actually can't imagine that they haven't been properly stored.

[Elkins45]

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/B8F75927-1287-4FB9-B654-26647193D887_zpsvyeqzhat.jpg

This is my $630 field grade purchased from CMP last fall. It's a 1942 Springfield and is in fantastic shape. I consider myself well satisfied with the purchase. If CMP can do as well or better with the new guns I will probably try for another.

[376Steyr]

For wild speculation, manic-depressive mood swings, and a general feeding frenzy when there is nothing in the water, head over to the CMP Forum M1 Garand thread on the topic and check out the guys who are going berserk at the news. http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=208363 :holysheep

[308Jeff]

Interesting. Seems that not even the experts have any idea on what the condition of these rifles are going to be.

[benellinut]

Interesting. Seems that not even the experts have any idea on what the condition of these rifles is going to be.

They haven't been shipped yet, no one state side has seen them, I bet the CMP hasn't even seen them yet as there would be no reason for them to fly there to inspect them. I'm sure it will be a mix of condition/grades. As far as prices, they sure as hell won't be any less then what they have sold for in the past, highly likely the prices will be higher. The more hysteria the CMP sees the higher the price will go, it would be in everyone's interest not to be posting on every forum that they are chomping at the bit to get one. The CMP is very good at chumming the waters and creating a frenzy on the CMP forum every time they have any firearms, ammo or parts coming, then they sit back, watch the reactions and gauge the interest, smart on their part.

Just get your ducks in a row, join an affiliated club, fill out the forms along with required proof and send it in now, then they will have it in the system and all you'll have to do is place your order once they go up for sale.
Read the info here for everything you need to know on how to buy rifles and ammo from the CMP http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/
Search for a club here, some clubs you can join online. https://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=clubSearch

[308Jeff]

Again, I find it hard to believe that no one from the US gov't or the CMP has seen these rifles.

The CMP has done an excellent job of keeping their prices down and providing us with a product that is almost always in better shape than what we paid for. The Service Grade Garand I received in 2010 was in exceptional condition. Way beyond what I could have bought for $595 in the open market.

Yes, if you want one of these rifles, get your certs now. Get them faxed in and on file. Then grab an affordable piece of history you'll look at every time you open your safe. :-)

[benellinut]

Even if they have seen them, they aren't going to say anything, at least they never had in the past. Once they get here they all have to be inventoried, sorted, cleaned, inspected, graded and test fired before they'll hit the racks. Many will go through repairs and rebuilds, parts and wood will be swapped out which could increase or decrease the grade.

[Geezer in NH]

Is the CMP Private or Government organization?? The DCM was Government and some say the CMP is now private.

[benellinut]

Is the CMP Private or Government organization?? The DCM was Government and some say the CMP is now private.

http://thecmp.org/about/

[nicholst55]

Is the CMP Private or Government organization?? The DCM was Government and some say the CMP is now private.

A private organization since the original DCM was shut down.

[Hardcast416taylor]

It took me 3 tries to qualify for a $165 M-1. The first time I broke my leg that laid me up for the Summer and I couldn`t finish the required shooting. The second time I had a heart attack with a resulting 6 way bypass (YES there is such a thing as a 6 way) that kept me side lined most of that year. The 3rd time I stayed healthy enough to qualify and later got the `no choice` M-1 in the mail. It`s a Springfield with a 44 date barrel that shoots G.I. ball loads quite nicely.Robert

[benellinut]

If you can show experience with a firearm you can give proof instead of qualifying, such as if you have an old hunting lic, a pistol permit, something showing you competed in a firearm match, you can send them a copy of that. Check with the CMP or ask on the CMP forum what else they will accept, what they are looking for is proof you've had firearm experience, I sent them a copy of my carry permit.

[bob208]

would my expert certificate from when I shot bullseye pistol matches count?

[benellinut]

would my expert certificate from when I shot bullseye pistol matches count?

I would sure think so, I'd email or call the CMP to make sure but I'm 98% sure they will, they are all about people who compete or have in the past. I too ranked expert when I dropped out of Bullseye, I miss it dearly but nerve damage in my neck has left me with a shake in my right hand and arm. The doctor's did nerve conductivity tests and said the damage is permanent. At least I have great memory's, great shooting guns and some trophies to look at, sucks getting old.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

What about a illinois concealed carry license i had to shoot to qualify

[ShooterAZ]

In addition to proof of marksmanship, you guys will still need to join a CMP affiliated club. At one time joining the Garand Collectors Association would qualify. I'm not sure if it still does.

[goryshaw]

http://www.m1collectorsclub.com/

$14.00 / yr. I've used them for about 4 years to be eligible with the cmp. I believe a CCW permit is adequate to show shooting requirement, or just show up to a local club rifle match and shoot, and you'll need to get a notarized form with your order that will be good for 3 years.

[376Steyr]

In addition to proof of marksmanship, you guys will still need to join a CMP affiliated club. At one time joining the Garand Collectors Association would qualify. I'm not sure if it still does.

I got an M1 from the CMP last Thanksgiving. I used a Garand Collectors Association membership ($25/year) and my Concealed Carry license to meet the qualifications.

General information about ordering is here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/ordering-information/
Eligibility requirements, with lots of links as to what qualifies, is here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/

You get to submit quite a package of paperwork for your first rifle purchase, then it stays on file for a few years and you only need to send in an order form for your next purchase.

[Elkins45]

When I bought mine in the fall I sent a copy of these documents:

Passport (proves citizenship)
CCDW license (proves firearm proficiency)
Garand Collector's Association membership card (proves membership in affiliated organization)

You also have to get your order form notarized. The bank did it for me for free. I'm not sure I will have to do that again if I order a second gun.

My rifle arrived at my door 14 days after I mailed the order.

[Bigslug]

Interesting. Seems that not even the experts have any idea on what the condition of these rifles are going to be. The excitement potential for me would come more from vintage than condition. One of the trickiest tricks to pull off in gun collecting is a WWII-production Garand with all of it's original parts, so it's got me pondering:

1. What did we leave there?

2. When did we leave it?

3. What kind of upkeep / retrofitting did it get after we left it?

Could be some SERIOUS time capsule about to be uncorked.

[Multigunner]

Years ago I saw photos of a cache of Garands returned from one of our old time allies . These had never been used and looked practically new. They were still in a cylindrical steel shipping container, never having been unpacked just hustled into storage and forgotten for decades. Quite a find.

[TNsailorman]

I haven't bought a rifle from CMP since 2004 and I guess I had better check to see if they still have me on file and eligible. james

[Texas by God]

I'm getting one. Hell or high water.

[benellinut]

For those planning on ordering their first Garand, now might be a good time to order some ammo and en bloc clips from the CMP. As the word spreads on these rifles, demand for ammo is going to jump, who knows, there may already be a rush on it.

[wadcutter]

Saw this CMP posted this on facebook: "We don't anticipate having these up for sale until late this year/possibly early 2018 depending if and when the Secretary of the Army transfers the rifles to CMP."

Which I take as good news as it confirms the rumors are true. I can't imagine that the Army wouldn't give these to the CMP with the current administration. I have a '54 CMP Garand and would love to add a WWII model to the collection.

Now what about those Korean rifles?

[Ken in Iowa]

Dad and I bought several return Garands and Springfields over the years either direct from the Old DCM or the secondary market. They were never a bad investment.

great news for all, especially the younger guys.!

[Shiloh]

How many of these rifles will even meet service grade criteria is what I'd like to know. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I bought a CMP "Rack Grade" back in the first days of the Greek returns for $295, and it's my best shooter by far. Metal was almost perfect, but the stock looked like it was run over by a tank. I replaced it with a SA USGI set that I already had. I bought several grades of the "Greeks" including Collector, Correct, and service and rack. The grading has changed drastically since I first bought my M1's, and I have to say that I would not buy a rack grade ever again from the CMP. At a minimum, pay the $$$ for service grade or above now. I'm sure the Korean and Philippine imports will be a carp shoot. Luck of the draw I suppose. Good luck.

My RI M-1903 is a Greek return.

Shiloh

[deadeye ruck]

Hopefully I can land one of the "new" CMP garands to go with my Korean war garand. My son will hopefully appreciate it in 20 years.

[John Boy]

CMP is a civilian outfit and operates as such. CMP will cherry pick the good rifles and parts especially any WRA's

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Awesome! Would love a Garand.


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[Electric88]

I wonder when these Garands will be ready for purchase...

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Any idea what the service grade ones will cost? What was the CMP selling them for back when they were in stock?

I'm already a member of the GCA and have a TX carry permit. Looks like I am eligible to order from the CMP as soon as they are available.

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[376Steyr]

Last year the Service grades sold for $730.

[3006guns]

Hoping these will result in $595.00 Service Grade Garands.

If the Korean Garands and Carbines come back, we could even see sub-$1,000 Carbines.

Humph! The last batch of carbines in the late eighties were around $180 at the gunshows. I saw dealers buying them by the shopping basket full.....and did I have the brains to grab one? Nooooo..........

[308Jeff]

Humph! The last batch of carbines in the late eighties were around $180 at the gunshows. I saw dealers buying them by the shopping basket full.....and did I have the brains to grab one? Nooooo..........

Sounds about right. I paid $200.00 for mine in 1990.

[trapper9260]

I looking for one myself also I got the manual for it from 1940's when one of my uncle was in WW2 and was KIA in the south pacific.I also have his flag that they buired him under with the 48 stars.

[jimb16]

I looking for one myself also I got the manual for it from 1940's when one of my uncle was in WW2 and was KIA in the south pacific.I also have his flag that they buired him under with the 48 stars.

Does the flag have gold stars? The one I have does.

[LavaTech]

CMP will cherry pick the good rifles and parts especially any WRA's

I'd certainly hope so, the auction proceeds will add more to their funding for promoting the shooting sports/programs.:D

There will likely be plenty of good rifles to be had anyway.

[JBinMN]

I really want to get interested in one of these weapons, but I am having a hard time with the prices...

I can get a pretty nice brand new firearm(rifle) for the price of these, in the conditions I read about in the link that was provided by 376Steyr. ( Thanks BTW. :) ) One I have had the time to look at, hold in my hands & see the condition it is in at the time I spend the hard earned $$...

Please don't get all uptight with me folks, but I tend to like to actually hold a firearm in my own hand, before I make the decision to buy it, and it just goes against my grain that even though I would be buying a little bit of history, I am buying a "pig in a poke" as far as what I receive by not actually seeing & handling the weapon prior to purchase.

It is a bit of history , but it can be an investment... Like a vintage motorcycle, a classic car, etc... I need more than just a description of an "average" of what I am getting for the frogskins I am shelling out...

I intend to join up on as local as I can get into the CMP, but as far as buying a weapon sight unseen & at the prices I saw ta boot, it is just not the way I do things... I will just watch & drool a bit..
:)

[frankenfab]

This is great news. I bought a CMP Special 30-06 3 years ago for Christmas. It is so nice that I haven't been able to bring myself to shoot it. I've been wanting a rack grade for a shooter ever since.

[308Jeff]

I get what you're saying. I don't know of anyone who has purchased a CMP Garand or Carbine though who hasn't been happy/tickled with the rifle they've received, though. I've only bought one, a service grade Garand, and it was in like-new condition.

[benellinut]

Take a look at what Garand's are selling for in the members "for sale" section of the CMP forum, hard to find a decent one for under $1K http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87&order=desc You know the CMP is watching what they are going for and they will price them a little lower but accordingly. Don't expect to get them for what they sold for the last time they had them in stock, not going to happen. That said, they will still be worth the money, you'll always be able to get what you invested and if you wait a profit to boot, the value's on these Garand's just keeps going up and up.

[tigweldit]

I have been buying from the CMP (formerly DCM) for some time now. Started in 1963 with M1 carbine (Rock-Ola) for $20.00, shipped. Also bought a large amount of .30 carbine (LC) for $.02 per round. Still have the carbine, original paperwork, and some of the LC ammo. In 1990, I bought a M1 Garand (H&R), for about $200.00. I don't have the paperwork handy, but I'm pretty sure it was $200.00. In 1996 I won a lottery spot to buy a M1D for $600.00. I received a beautiful Winchester M1D w/scope and all the accessories. I believe CMP purchases to be good, and fun, investments.

[dogmower]

I'm just about finished perfecting my time machine, and then there won't be any left (in THIS time);)

[fatelk]

The CMP gets grief over pricing no matter what they do. If they price them too low, the gun show guys buy them all up for resale. If they price them too high, they sell too slow, and people complain about how greedy they are.

I think they try to price them reasonably under the going rate on the resale market, at a price where they will sell but not cheap enough for the wheeler-dealers to snap them all up. Even if they limit the number that any individual can buy in a year, people always figure a way around it. They buy their dozen, then their wife does, then Uncle Joe, Aunt Mildred, Cousin Frank, etc.. If they lower the limit guys complain that they can't "collect" a hundred of them.

Of course, I have more than one myself, and wish I could afford to buy several more.

[Uncle Grinch]

It's really not that hard or complicated to meet CMP requirements. Just carefully read the requirements and do your research. I believe your DD214 will also qualify you. I've bought two 03A3's, and three Garands over the years. My last Garand was an International Harvester and it was the most expensive purchase. Think it was around $995.

Gave me my son one of the 03A3's and one of the Springfield Garands. They are fun to shoot and are a real part of our history.

[PerpetualStudent]

hmmm

Right now it's looking like one last year of grad school and I made a promise to my wife not to buy anymore guns until I graduate. So I'll probably join my local CMP affiliate in January and hope that the "early 2018" date is what it will actually be. Watching the gun show prices of Garands climb has been....less than encouraging. Who knows? With a friendly administration maybe some other countries will send the garands back home.

[376Steyr]

For an education on the M1 Garand world, I recommend lurking over at the CMP Forum M1 site for a while: http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7
They have quite a crew over there. Hardcore collectors, new guys asking the questions you are afraid to, and the occasional nutjob. Useful feature is they like to jump all over the many fraudulent "rare, vintage, collector's item" Garands offered on the auction sites.

[benellinut]

Just got an email from the CMP, if you want good cheap ammo better get it now. This looks to be the last of the HXP ammo, this is good ammo, reloadable brass. From the email:

"FINAL AMMO CALL! This is your LAST chance to buy our exclusive CMP Greek Ammunition (M2 Ball Greek .30-06 HXP) - quantities are low, so don't hesitate! Log on to the CMP eStore and click on the M2 Ball Greek .30-06 HXP (4C3006X211-180P) link to purchase 180 rounds at $144, with free S&H to the contingous U.S. If the link isn't working, the item has sold out. These boxes will go quickly, so hurry to the CMP eStore here ( https://estore.thecmp.org/ (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001D3TRHgxiq1zJ0uj7_1CRHGlrKLUxFAtqgVsCYZ gBYCY6wCzwaqouAp9JOwoVeYygkaOI2bsEf244aLI9KmikJWJU nsZvH-rucR-qMmfwh0z2U7enX7G8Ja6vxAPDTRGmJHU8wEUFMrO1udJeRYqt9 dgp0E2QyxHZeU0PBi_mOkrkSsIOsv7zkg==&c=6oJaMfs666STRt2ss4AMIlHR1dCIWgdv6U5zZcFLAQlSiDyw AZVdng==&ch=Z1xOrOoqqB4a5bNo8mG0p5v56p-6eBMjIv3k7LpSdChxekR70Ea5cQ==)) to reserve yours while you can!" There are a few other item numbers listed for Greek ammunition. These are all small quantities, and once they are sold out, they will not be available again."

Here's a link to the ammo, if it doesn't work then it means it's already sold out. https://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/4C3006X211-180P

[benellinut]

Well they are all, cleaned, inspected, gauged, test fired and graded before being put on the racks. Yes it's the roll of the dice, you might get one that just passes it's grading or you might get one better or one with highly collectible parts $$, regardless you'll at least get more then your money's worth. Once in a while someone will get one with issues, the CMP has ALWAYS stood behind them and made it right.

[mac1911]

This is great news. I bought a CMP Special 30-06 3 years ago for Christmas. It is so nice that I haven't been able to bring myself to shoot it. I've been wanting a rack grade for a shooter ever since.

If you bought the cmp special with new barrel and new stock shoot away. It's been refinished and rebuilt by cmp. Not a lot of "value" there.
If you bought one of the really nice SG specials that where darn near unissued condition. Those where a nice little jem.

[mac1911]

Well they are all, cleaned, inspected, gauged, test fired and graded before being put on the racks. Yes it's the roll of the dice, you might get one that just passes it's grading or you might get one better or one with highly collectible parts $$, regardless you'll at least get more then your money's worth. Once in a while someone will get one with issues, the CMP has ALWAYS stood behind them and made it right.

This, also expect to pay 1200$ plus for a service grade out in the wild.

[rondog]

There's a lot of rabid collectors at the CMP forums with deep pockets and fat bankrolls, I garontee they'll be snatching up the best ones as fast as they can. Us po' boy normal folks will be lucky to get a sniff of the dregs.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

I blame this thread. Over Memorial Day weekend I filled out an order form for a CMP RM1 Special Field Grade. I understand these are refurbished and have no collector value, but still it is a Garand. I couldn't find a bad thing about the Special Field Grades on the web, at least not from a shooters perspective. Figured a refurbished one would be a good starter Garand and an added bonus will be the CMP should have all my stuff on file when the Garands come home from the Philippines. Letter with order form and copies of my stuff went out 5-30. Will see what the CMPs turn around time is.


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[308Jeff]

I accept responsibility for your actions.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

I accept responsibility for your actions.

I'll forward the receipt for reimbursement.


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[308Jeff]

I'll forward the receipt for reimbursement.


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Please include the rifle with said receipt.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

I'll have to see how it shoots first. jk.


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[308Jeff]

Better show us pics of that thing when it shows up. :-)

[dhenry132]

Me want more !

[cwheel]

One thing for sure is the days of buying my $165 IHC are long gone. Didn't know much about them back then ( still don't ) but I was a little vexed when I opened the box and found a IHC with all of the correct parts and barrel, and not a Springfield. IHC ?? got a corn binder ?? A little looking and reading, I was real happy with what I got for the money. ( after a little education ) Hope they get plenty of parts with these, or part out some of the bad ones. Sure would be fun to get a receiver and build one up in 308 to go with the IHC. Any money spent with the DCM or CMP has been well spent so far.
Chris

[Defender12]

I wonder if the Philippines have any M2 Ball to go with the rifles?

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Better show us pics of that thing when it shows up. :-)

Just got an email saying my order has been received and verified!


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[308Jeff]

Nice to have something to look forward to. :-)

[2ndAmendmentNut]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/b0a9f133b08c4b2c6a946db0db32d4d0.jpg

It's here! Nice looking unfinished stock. Impressive trigger and clean new barrel. Just need to grease her up and hit the range.

46gr of Varget showed promise in my bolt guns and should be nice and easy on the old Garand gas system.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/7d23f668bec835412fdde16db095af87.jpg

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[308Jeff]

You did well, sir.

Thanks for posting the pic!

[benellinut]

It's here! Nice looking unfinished stock. Impressive trigger and clean new barrel. Just need to grease her up and hit the range.

46gr of Varget showed promise in my bolt guns and should be nice and easy on the old Garand gas system.

Range report coming soon!


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That's a fine looking stock, was it listed as coming with an unfinished stock? Are you sure it's not BLO (boiled linseed oil)? That's what they use/d on those rifles.

I'd highly suggest getting a Schuster plug, I put one in each of my Garand's. http://www.schustermfg.com/ That way you can shoot any 30-06 and not hurt the op-rod or crack the heel of the receiver if a load has a higher pressure curve then M2 ball. Too high of a curve can bend an op-rod, the bolt slams against the heel of the receiver at the end of it's cycle, cracked heals are not real common but for $35 it's good insurance, it would be a heart break to ruin one. You can also get the Schuster plugs at Midway or Brownells, I use the adjustable plug's.

[smokeywolf]

Would love to get another Garand in military dress and a M1A.

2ndAmendmentNut, by those pics, it looks to me like you won the Garand lottery. Really nice. I'm Ga-reen with envy.

[JBinMN]

Nice! Thanks for sharing the pics! Looks super & also appears to not be to bad on accuracy either.
:)

I am curious though, at the cost you ended up spending for your piece. That was one of the things that made me hesitate to get involved. Cost & buying sight unseen/handled("pig in a poke", or "mail order bride"/ "blind date" deal).

I'd appreciate, if nothing else, a "ballpark" figure if ya will.

Thanks!
:)

[frankenfab]

The CMP Special Field Grade are $830 shipped. I got a Special before they sold out, for $1030. The difference is the "Field" may have some considerable pitting on the receiver above the stock line.

There's not much luck involved in the condition. They are completely refurbished rifles with new aftermarket wood.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

That's a fine looking stock, was it listed as coming with an unfinished stock? Are you sure it's not BLO (boiled linseed oil)? That's what they use/d on those rifles.

I'd highly suggest getting a Schuster plug, I put one in each of my Garand's. http://www.schustermfg.com/ That way you can shoot any 30-06 and not hurt the op-rod or crack the heel of the receiver if a load has a higher pressure curve then M2 ball. Too high of a curve can bend an op-rod, the bolt slams against the heel of the receiver at the end of it's cycle, cracked heals are not real common but for $35 it's good insurance, it would be a heart break to ruin one. You can also get the Schuster plugs at Midway or Brownells, I use the adjustable plug's.

Not sure it was listed as a refurbished Garand with a new stock. It looks and feels unfinished, but then again I am not experiencing with new boiled linseed stocks. Most I have seen have a a pretty heavy coat of wax or varnish. Perhaps I'll just lightly wax the stock with Renaissance Wax.

Do those plugs allow for steady use of commercial 30-06 ammo? For $30 that seems like a pretty good modification.

EDIT: After a little research it would seem that the stock does have a linseed oil finish.


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[2ndAmendmentNut]

Would love to get another Garand in military dress and a M1A.

2ndAmendmentNut, by those pics, it looks to me like you won the Garand lottery. Really nice. I'm Ga-reen with envy.

Thank you! Keep in mind that group was shot with a old Pre 64 model 70. We will have to see how this Garand does at the next outing.


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[benellinut]

Not sure it was listed as a refurbished Garand with a new stock. It looks and feels unfinished, but then again I am not experiencing with new boiled linseed stocks. Most I have seen have a a pretty heavy coat of wax or varnish. Perhaps I'll just lightly wax the stock with Renaissance Wax.

Do those plugs allow for steady use of commercial 30-06 ammo? For $30 that seems like a pretty good modification.

EDIT: After a little research it would seem that the stock does have a linseed oil finish.


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It was hard to tell from the pics if the stock was treated with BLO, I had never seen the CMP sell rifles with unfinished stocks but I haven't been following as closely the last couple of years so I wasn't sure, they are very good at telling you just what your getting.

Yes the Schuster plug is perfect for steady diet of commercial ammo, once properly adjusted for the ammo you'll use. Any Garand I got I put a new recoil spring and Schuster plug in it and check the rest of the springs. I figure many of these rifles are 60+ years old and have seen a lot of use, why not give them every advantage to last another 60, the cost isn't that much.

Enjoy the hell out of that rifle sir, you got a nice one!

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Mine seems to shoot about 4MOA. Pretty windy at the range so not sure yet. 9 clicks up is right on for 200 yards, need a calm day to correct the front sight for windage. What a sweet shooting rifle! 10lbs of rifle and the gas system really make the 30-06 a pleasure to shoot.

Anyone know of a good reproduction bayonet for the M1? Seems like I should own a bayonet, but an original seems a bit pricey for a refurbished Garand.


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[benellinut]

I have one of these, it was a gift that came from this place. Good representation, note it's painted, not parkerized but for the price it's a good deal.
https://www.keepshooting.com/m1-garand-bayonet.html
They also have the long bayo
https://www.keepshooting.com/m1-garand-long-bayonet.html

The CMP has some USGI M5A1 bayo's,
http://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/PB002

[guicksylver]

Why do we think they will be sold and not auctioned?...86,000 is a lot ..but that might be the end..also why would they release them all at once...just thinking out loud..

[prsman23]

They don't have enough people to put up 86,000 for auction. That would take forever. Usually they just auction off the nicer/ rarer finds. Just going on precedent really.


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[dragon813gt]

They won't be released all at once. They will go through them and release them along the way. It's going to take awhile for them all to be sold.

[308Jeff]

Only a select few will be auctioned, if there are even any worthy of auction. Who knows if there are going to be any real gems among those.

Hopefully there will be a few that make good candidates for Select.

[Fly]

Well maybe I,m cheap but I don't see that as a great deal. M1 Garand is a rifle I have always wanted. But when they went over $800 I said count me out.
As I said that is one rifle I have always wanted, but not one I can not live with out.

Fly

[Stewbaby]

When a run of the mill Mosin is passing $200 and a Russian capture K98 is $500, a Garand for a around a grand is fair market.

[benellinut]

Well maybe I,m cheap but I don't see that as a great deal. M1 Garand is a rifle I have always wanted. But when they went over $800 I said count me out.
As I said that is one rifle I have always wanted, but not one I can not live with out.

Fly

May seem like a lot, but look at the history of the prices of the Garand's and M1 Carbines, they have always gone up in value and will continue to do so. The price will climb quicker when the day comes there are no more to be had through the CMP at below market value, once that happens the value will jump even more in just a matter of months, exactly what happen when the Carbine's sold out. You'll always be able to get your money back, hang on to it for just a couple years and you'll make money, the longer you keep it the more it will be worth. If you can't get yourself to spend $800, you'll probably never own one. Of course if your lucky once in a blue moon there is always someone who doesn't know what they have will sell cheap.

[Earlwb]

I think it would be pretty neat if they get to sell them for a nice price, but I would expect them to be selling these in the $1,200 dollar range when they do start trickling them out. Many years ago I bought one but it cost me like $400 at the time and it was a run of the mill used rifle. it did work pretty good though, albeit it wasn't a target shooting accurate gun.

[308Jeff]

I really hope they're not that expensive. Would be disappointing, but there probably wouldn't be many people buying more than one if they were that price.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Pigs sure don't like the CMP Garand.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/b2cea567d97560c1262530ed097c5c1a.jpg
About 80-90yards free hand.


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[smokeywolf]

Thanx for that pic 2ndAmendmentNut, now where will the BBQ be? I have some apple and hickory wood and some wonderful rub that would turn that that pig into some great eating.

[Gewehr-Guy]

While casting bullets yesterday I was listening to a radio program called GUN TALK by Tom Gresham, and they interviewed Mark from the CMP. He mentioned that they would be receiving 12,000 M-1's from Turkey, probably before they recieve any from the Philippine's . Anyone else have any info about this?

[2ndAmendmentNut]

While casting bullets yesterday I was listening to a radio program called GUN TALK by Tom Gresham, and they interviewed Mark from the CMP. He mentioned that they would be receiving 12,000 M-1's from Turkey, probably before they recieve any from the Philippine's . Anyone else have any info about this?

Anyone know what happened to all those 1911s the CMP was trying to get?


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[prsman23]

Yes. Still waiting to import them. It's going to be a while


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[bruce drake]

I stopped in at the CMP North Store on Saturday because I had business in the area of Port Clinton to do. NO Service or Rack Grade M1s on the display floor. All they had were M1 Special grades at over $1000 along with M1C and M1Ds at much higher prices. The M1 Garand Drill rifles were over $400... The only non-M1s in the room were 1903 drill rifles for $150.

I bought three Garand slings, two 1911 45 ACP magazines still in protective wrap and a bag of plastic Open Bolt Indicators to hand out at rifle matches for new shooters.

I think I'll hold off before committing to a CMP purchase anytime soon.

[Fly]

What amazes me, when I go to a gun show there are so many M-1 Garands for sale & not many being sold. It seems
as throw seller are just sitting on them. Usually supply & demand dictates what something is worth. This has not changed
with M-1 rifles for the last several years. Dealers sitting on these rifles will not change as we know. I see on Gun Broker some
asking as much as $2000 . I was told as a boy something is worth what you can get for it. I have seen that with classic cars.

I had a buddy the had a Model A pick up I tried to buy for years. It turned to rust over the years & he died a few year back.

Fly

[texasnative46]

To All,

Do any of our members have a clue as to when the 86,000 Garands will actually be for sale.
(I talked to a clerk at the North Store about 10 days ago & was told that they hadn't seen them yet.)

yours, tex

[Handloader109]

Tulsa gunshow must have had a thousand scattered among a hundred sellers, maybe two thousand. Wasn't counting, but zero were being sold. Way too expensive. Why drag them around if you aren't actively trying to sell?

[6mm win lee]

Tulsa gunshow must have had a thousand scattered among a hundred sellers, maybe two thousand. Wasn't counting, but zero were being sold. Way too expensive. Why drag them around if you aren't actively trying to sell?

Because they want the ignorant to pay for their retirements. All the while many of us already have our Garands or other guns know or can find out real quick how much they paid for their litte treasures and are not having any of it. I have heard of a gun guy/ffl in upper Maryland who owns a couple hundred Garands, either whole or barreled receivers, and is sitting on them for the moment he wants to retire.

[Earlwb]

Because they want the ignorant to pay for their retirements. All the while many of us already have our Garands or other guns know or can find out real quick how much they paid for their litte treasures and are not having any of it. I have heard of a gun guy/ffl in upper Maryland who owns a couple hundred Garands, either whole or barreled receivers, and is sitting on them for the moment he wants to retire.

Won't he be in for a shock when no one wants to buy them for what he is going to ask for them.

[WILCO]

Two kinds of people in the Garand world of purchasers. Those buying and those selling.
It doesn't bother me one bit why and when a seller wants to liquidate. As a purchaser, I'm only concerned with price. If it's affordable, I'll buy. If not, I pass. Funny how so many folks feel entitled to purchase on their terms. Wonder what they would think if the shoe was on the other foot?
Never mind. I already know. Money talks, BS walks. God bless the capitalists. Screw the snowflakes.

[iron brigade]

I'll probably just buy a loaded M1A and be done with it.

[Jack Stanley]

An M1A might be a safer bet . I'm getting old enough to sell many from my collection and listening to the buyers is either frustrating or entertaining . Those who have bought what I had on the table were happy they had good barrels and the parts were not all worn out . Those I couldn't help were they who wanted to pay the low price then gripe about the cost of a new barrel , parts to make the rifle time correctly and someone who knows what to do putting it all together .

This isn't to say getting a good M1A is real easy , but at least with a new one you get some kind of warranty . CMP will help with what is really bad wrong but they do give you an idea of what they have up front .

Jack

[marvelshooter]

The CMP website is showing Winchester Service Grades as available now for $930. Get em while you can - I expect them to go quick.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/

[benellinut]

The CMP website is showing Winchester Service Grades as available now for $930. Get em while you can - I expect them to go quick.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/

They must have finally found enough of them to list them on the web, nice! Rumor's have it from people who have toured the CMP warehouses there is still some crates of carbine's that will come to light one day, although I doubt if they will ever be enough to be listed on the web, probably in the stores and auctions. But you never know with the CMP, they keep good secrets of just what they have, I can understand why they would keep it secret.

[bob208]

just take them to a gun auction. last one I was at a 43 springfield with a 48 barrel and a much sanded stock as in it did not even have the right profile any more. went for $1400.

[cwheel]

I really like the IHC I got many years ago from the DCM, I sure got my $165 worth at the time. I'd like to pic up a couple for the son and grandson so they each would have one. But when the price of a used M1 exceeds 50% of what a new M1A would cost, it only makes sense to me to go with the new M1A ?? I hope the CMP considers this when pricing this new shipment of M1's, and to add to that, they are in various conditions. $1200 for a new M1A, thinking these M1's to be attractive to me would come in at $600 for the best, and down from there. Fine rifle the M1, I enjoy mine, but I'm not used to throwing money away. I'm looking at this as a shooter, not a collector. Just a opinion.
Chris

[308Jeff]

Why spend $1,200 for an M1A, if you can buy an AR-10 for under a grand? That was the question I asked myself when I decided I wanted a semi-auto 308.

I ended up with an AR-10. Better accuracy, more flexibility, and cheaper mags.

The M1A is still prettier though.

[mac1911]

Why spend $1,200 for an M1A, if you can buy an AR-10 for under a grand? That was the question I asked myself when I decided I wanted a semi-auto 308.

I ended up with an AR-10. Better accuracy, more flexibility, and cheaper mags.

The M1A is still prettier though.

for looks alone its tough to beat wood and steel.
the M1a prices seem to be coming sown also. about this time a few years ago the average M1a popping up on the local market here where 1600$ plus. My friend just bought a new SAI standard for 1150$ shipped. Wood is actually very nice looking. It shoots about as good as a Mia standard and 7.62 nato will with out spending lots of money.
As for the new garands that "might" come in?

I look at it like this will the Acting Secretary of the Army Robert M. Speer take the time to sign off and do what needs to be done to get the M1s cataloged packed up and shipped out to come home? Does he even have the authority to do so. Do we have to what for congress to actually vote in a new Secretary before any of this can go forward?
Im not holding my breath and with a 100$ increase happening with almost every garand "release" by the time we see this batch of 86k a SG mix master will be $1k.... just look at what any and all M1s sell for on cmp auction. Basic service grades have sold for 1500 or more.

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/index.asp

[bob208]

my first m1 was a h & r shot the barrel out of it it now wears a .308 barrel and nm sights. I got a Winchester from the old dcm for $225. then I picked up a international harvester. and a springfield. so I have one of each.

[Gewehr-Guy]

When I saw the post about the CMP offering Winchesters, I had to try for one. Sent my order on July 10 and got my rifle today. Beautiful , no pitting visible, CMP stock, SA barrel 11-49, TE 2+, ME 1+, ser. no 102,0xx made March 1941. I need to get off the computer and go load some ammo!

[308Jeff]

When I saw the post about the CMP offering Winchesters, I had to try for one. Sent my order on July 10 and got my rifle today. Beautiful , no pitting visible, CMP stock, SA barrel 11-49, TE 2+, ME 1+, ser. no 102,0xx made March 1941. I need to get off the computer and go load some ammo!

We need pics, man! :)

[Gewehr-Guy]

I would love to post pictures, if i knew how , maybe Wife can help me out.

[benellinut]

Found this today, look's like this administration is making some moves to get the 1911's to the CMP

"BREAKING: House Passes Bill MANDATING Transfer of ALL US Army M1911 Handguns to the CMP"

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/18/breaking-house-passes-bill-mandating-transfer-us-army-m1911-handguns-cmp

[goryshaw]

I sent in an order for a WRA to the CMP on 7/12, got a call and email that my page 2a wasn't signed on 7/18. Express mailed another page 2a on 7/19, they should have it in the Monday 7/24 mail. They are still listed on their site, so I'm hoping to get a DBU on Monday. I already have a June '44 SA, 2x 1954 Harrington Richardsons and a 1954 IHC, getting the WRA would complete the set.

[Old Iron Sights]

Oh so tempting. I'd love to add a Winchester to the Springfield and IH. I have to admit, I'm not crazy about the look of a new CMP stock. Nothing wrong with the stock, they just look and feel better in the old GI wood.

[goryshaw]

Oh so tempting. I'd love to add a Winchester to the Springfield and IH. I have to admit, I'm not crazy about the look of a new CMP stock. Nothing wrong with the stock, they just look and feel better in the old GI wood.

CMP stocks are pretty, very nicely grained wood and after you strip them and add Tung or Linseed oil they turn out nice. But, they are fat and just don't feel as good in the hand as the USGI ones. I've got CMP stocks on my SA CMP Special in .308 and one of the HRA, a Service Grade Special. But the IHC and the other HRA both have USGI wood, with the HRA being my shooter / JCG match rifle.