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Artful
04-01-2017, 04:48 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/30/p320-blows-keeps-working/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-04-01&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter



P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=610&code=610&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) Blows Up But Keeps On Workinghttp://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17439734_10155050395498955_1768769304_n-660x495.jpg

A friend shared this with me. Upon his request he wishes to remain anonymous. He witnessed a catastrophic malfunction with someone’s Sig (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=620&code=620&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=uFutKlr2uc_IiiMBMrEtGQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F79 4349%2Fsig-sauer-tango6-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-5-30x-56mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-side-focus-first-focal-levelplex-mrad-dev-l-reticle-graphite%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-794349%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Tango6%20Scope%2034mm%20Tub e%205-30x%2056mm%201%2F10%20Mil%20Adjustments%20Side%20F ocus%20First%20Focal%20LevelPlex%20MRAD%20DEV-L%20Reticle%20Graphite&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=2599.99&SKU=794349) P320 Tacops.

It was a box stock SIG P320 Tac Ops. The ammo was reloaded and was believed to be a double charge because of the amount of brass flow"

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17351077_10155050395743955_705842542_n.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17361119_10155050395528955_1382399038_n.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17440337_10155050395553955_994871795_n.jpg


Now the ammo (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=596&code=596&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=rjpXSbf-j4mDoy0yoB59Cg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F84 7765%2Fstarline-reloading-brass-38-special-box-of-1000-bulk-packaged%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Reloading%2B-%2BBrass%2B-%2BHandgun-_-Starline-_-847765%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Starline%20Reloading%20Brass%2038%20Speci al%20Box%20of%201000%20%28Bulk%20Packaged%29&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=149.99&SKU=847765) in question was reloaded on a Dillon 1050 (https://www.amazon.com/Dillon-Precision-Conversion-Shellplate-Powder/dp/B00X8PTDZ2) and the reloader says he is diligent in his reloading processes. Murphy finds a way apparently.

The amazing thing is that the shooter was not seriously hurt but also they swapped the internals into another grip module and the gun continued to work.

[INDENT]I took a set of Digital calipers (https://www.amazon.com/Masonic-Calipers-Masonry-NDZ-Performance/dp/B00YCZU3JW) measure the barrel chamber the fire control unit which by the way was completely unharmed put a different group. Had to replace the extractor and all other components in the slide just to be on the safe side and ran about 35rounds (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96400&acode=594&code=594&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=PZx6K5uPZHdJC5pLPmWMxg%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F41 0561%2Fnightforce-2-piece-20-moa-picatinny-style-scope-base-savage-110-through-116-round-rear-axis-long-action-matte%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScope%2BRings%252C%2BBases%252C%2BMounting%2B%2 526%2BAccessories-_-Nightforce-_-410561%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Nightforce%202-Piece%2020%20MOA%20Picatinny-Style%20Scope%20Base%20Savage%20110%20Through%2011 6%20Round%20Rear%2C%20Axis%20Long%20Action%20Matte&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=87.0&SKU=410561) through it
Damage to the gun was obviously the Plastic Grip (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=603&code=603&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=ZVeG4QmPAriFx4i3oKvMHQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F11 4538%2Fwilson-combat-high-ride-beavertail-grip-safety-semi-drop-in-1911-government-series-70-80-stainless-steel%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Gunsmithing%2B-%2BGun%2BParts%2B1911%2B%2528Not%2BGrips%252C%2BMa gazines%2529-_-Wilson%2BCombat-_-114538%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Wilson%20Combat%20High-Ride%20Beavertail%20Grip%20Safety%20Semi%20Drop-In%201911%20Government%20Series%2070%2C%2080%20Sta inless%20Steel&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=37.99&SKU=114538) Panel, the extractor was sent into orbit. the shooter had one piece of brass in the top of his strong finger ( from ejection port, and something cut his upper lip) ( he WAS wearing eye protection) the magazine (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=621&code=621&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=ApW_0TBCyBQ8T3Lgc7pbmA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F70 8875%2Ftasco-mag-22-rimfire-rifle-scope-3-9x-32mm-30-30-reticle-matte-with-rings%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2BUnder%2B12X-_-Tasco-_-708875%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Tasco%20MAG%2022%20Rimfire%20Scope%203-9x%2032mm%2030-30%20Reticle%20Matte%20with%20Rings&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=114524196&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=49.99&SKU=708875)was not harmed. The gun (http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=gun) was detail stripped and the Extractor, and all parts in the slide were replaced as a precaution. The Fire control unit was inspected and cleaned then placed in a new grip module.
Accuracy has been tested as well and not affected.

Pretty amazing that the gun (http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=gun) still works! Is this a testament to Sig Sauer (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=610&code=610&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) build quality? Or a one in a million chance that everything went well as much as possible?

And in case you might think this is an isolated issue, I have different source, who also wishes to remain anonymous, also experienced something similar.

[INDENT]My daughter had a factory double charge go off in her p320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=610&code=610&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689). Besides scaring the hell out of her she was fine. She actually finished the match with that gun.

I put a new extractor in, changed the grip, fired 200 rounds real quick to function check.

She is still shooting the same gun (http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=gun) to this day. Only thing that was changed was the frame & extractor. This was 7 months & about 10,000 rounds later. With same fcu, striker, slide, extractor spring.

Below are photos of the casing.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17671407_10154695003185000_1116451596_n.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17579869_10154695003145000_1801148067_n.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17690797_10154695003160000_1524300467_n.jpg

That’s right, the P320 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96612&acode=610&code=610&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=IJDjZ57g0ITpqTDkhpH4hA%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F30 2689%2Fsig-sauer-whiskey3-rifle-scope-4-12x-50mm-triplex-reticle-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScopes%2B-%2B12X%2Band%2BGreater-_-Sig%2BSauer-_-302689%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Sig%20Sauer%20Whiskey3%20Scope%204-12x%2050mm%20TriPlex%20Reticle%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=349.99&SKU=302689) exploded, the father had spare parts (http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?k=parts) on hand and they rebuilt the pistol (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=621&code=621&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=RHmMBbVLAOs6uLIT6nn9bQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F49 5056%2Fhornady-lock-n-load-progressive-press-pistol-bullet-feeder-kit-110-volt%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Reloading%2B-%2BMetallic%2BReloading%2BPresses-_-Hornady-_-495056%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=Hornady%20Lock-N-Load%20Progressive%20Press%20Pistol%20Bullet%20Fee der%20Kit%20110%20Volt&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=170401051316&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=249.99&SKU=495056) during the match. Test fired 200 rounds just to be sure and the daughter finished the match. That is rather impressive.


Seems to have done better than some GLOCK's I have seen kaboom.

35remington
04-01-2017, 05:31 PM
Just wait. Someone will opine it was "out of battery."