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abunaitoo
03-27-2017, 04:11 AM
What is the advantage of a carbide die?????
I have both and lube every shell when resizing.
I can not feel or see any difference.

marlin39a
03-27-2017, 04:16 AM
With a carbide sizer you do not need lube.

TNsailorman
03-27-2017, 08:01 AM
What he said. I have heard that Lee dies do sometimes need lube but I never had that problem even with them. james

Trophy Tom
03-27-2017, 08:35 AM
I lightly lube 1 every 6 or 7.
Not necessary but it makes things smoother.


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tazman
03-27-2017, 09:07 AM
I use Lee carbide dies for my handgun cases and have not lubed a case in years. I have had no issues with my ammunition

mdi
03-27-2017, 01:07 PM
I have carbide sizing dies for all my handgun cartridges and rarely use lube. The only time I use lube is when sizing .44 Magnum brass, which are a bit more "difficult" than other calibers. I really don't need the lube then, but when sizing 100 cases, it makes things go a bit easier. And I don't lube every case either, mebbe one out of four or five...

375supermag
03-27-2017, 01:42 PM
Hi..
I have been using carbide dies for decades without​ using any lube on the cases with zero problems.
That includes many thousands of rounds from .45ACP up to .44Mag and .45Colt.

I do clean the dies out when the mood strikes me.

leadhead
03-27-2017, 02:52 PM
You have to lube when using a .30 carbine carbide die. I really don't know why,
but they will stick if you don't lube.
Denny

abunaitoo
03-27-2017, 04:44 PM
I lube everything, so I guess I really don't need carbide dies.
From time to time, i have to take out a stuck case for friends.
I tell them to lube the case if they don't want it to get stuck again.

Bzcraig
03-28-2017, 12:10 AM
Never lubed a pistol case and never had one stick

Josh Smith
03-28-2017, 12:33 AM
I like to keep a little lanolin on my hands in the shop. It helps keep rough calluses from snagging on things.

When I go to size pistol cases, that little bit of lanolin on my hands transfers to the cases and makes things even smoother.

Regards,

Josh

No Blue
03-29-2017, 02:11 PM
It's soooo much smoother pulling the handle when the brass is lubed....just a few aerosol sprayer blasts of Lee lube dissolved in alcohol in a plastic bag is all it takes. A LLM really benefits from not fighting the handle; something to do with the primer balancing on the primer pin while it's elevating 3" to be installed.

M-Tecs
03-29-2017, 03:39 PM
You have to lube when using a .30 carbine carbide die. I really don't know why,
but they will stick if you don't lube.
Denny

The 30 Carbine has a slight taper to it. If it was truly a straight wall you would not need lube.

RCBS claims you don't need lube with theirs. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0004418037/30-carbine-carbide-sizer-die

30 Carbine is one of the few common rounds I have not loaded for.

Same for the 223, 300 BO, 308 and 30/06 carbide dies. In these the main advantage for cases with a taper is the dies last 10 to 20 times longer.

https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-30-carbine-carbide-size-die-only_8_4_24502.html

https://www.dillonprecision.com/dillon-carbide-rifle-dies-individual-three-die-sets_8_4_24498.html

leadhead
03-29-2017, 09:39 PM
For that price, it should come with some one to size them for you.
Denny

Taterhead
03-30-2017, 01:14 PM
Even though carbide dies don't "require" lube, a modest amount of Hornady One Shot makes the experience so much better. It doesnyt take much, and doesn't need to be removed afterward. Plus it can prevent the occasional galling that can occur with really clean and puffy brass.

tward
04-03-2017, 10:21 AM
A little Lee lube also helps with "Glocked" 9mm brass. Tim

ikarus1
04-03-2017, 10:44 AM
wet tumble with a wash and wax carwash and you won't need to lube pistol cases AND get the benefit of easier effort on the handle plus they don't tarnish.
Oh yeah and no scraping the **** out of the primer pocket.

David2011
04-03-2017, 10:54 AM
For that price, it should come with some one to size them for you.
Denny

Tapered cartridges require full length carbide inserts. Straight walled cartridges only need a ring at the mouth of the die. Carbide is very expensive and the amount required affects the price of the die. Dillon makes an all carbide die for .223 and it's spendy as well.

country gent
04-03-2017, 12:44 PM
If your shooting a lot of ammo wear may become an issue Since carbide is much harder than steel dies they will last longer under heavy useage. When I was shooting NRA High power I wore out 2 308 sizing dies due to the amount of ammo used for practice and matches. On pistol rounds I still lightly lube even with carbide dies since it just makes everything feel smoother. Another is some 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 acps have pretty generous chambers cut in them so more sizing may be required, the light lubing helps.