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Cary Gunn
03-20-2017, 12:01 AM
Gents,

With the new administration in Washington -- signaling the end of the draconian Obama-induced ban on importation of milsurp firearms -- I would have expected to see a fresh flood of foreign milsurp rifles and handguns on the used-gun market by now. But, that flood hasn't materialized.

What's your best guess as to when we'll see a fresh of crop of imports hit the milsurp market?

I'm getting impatient waiting for more affordable toys, such as the Nagant revolvers, the Polish P-64's, the Tokarev's, Walther P1's, Austrian Model 95 Mannlichers, VZ 24's, Moisin-Nagant 7.62x54R's, Swiss Rubin's, etc.

Anybody have any "insider knowledge" on when the fresh imports will arrive?

Lemme know what ya think.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --

CHeatermk3
03-20-2017, 12:37 AM
My guess is that the supply of milsurps has just about dried up at the source and that the next wave of milsurps will be the Garands and carbines warehoused in S Korea.

Just guessing here.

funnyjim014
03-20-2017, 08:33 PM
The river is running dry. I would like to see some surplus ammo get stateside

adam_mac84
03-20-2017, 09:24 PM
id like to get a garand

MUSTANG
03-20-2017, 11:24 PM
Lot's of Milsurp in friendly and unfriendly countries overseas. We need the Trump Administration to take action to remove the Import Restrictions from the Bush and Obama eras. We need the US State Department to get out of the business of restricting Guns and Ammo, and the business of ITAR which should have no play inside of the US. And, we need a strong stance in the UN against the Liberal/Progressive /Socialist/Communist influences that are attempting to curtail "SMALL ARMS" trade between Nations - they always exempt the countries and go after the private citizens in these constraints.

tomme boy
03-20-2017, 11:42 PM
Most all the imports of the last 17 years have been coming through the Ukraine. Right now they need the weapons and ammo that we were getting dirt cheap. Russia still has hundreds of thousands of C&R guns sitting in caves. But they can not import them directly to us. So what they do is send them to one of the satellite countries and they have to sit there for I think it was 5 years before it is considered that countries property and then it can be imported to us.

Thank Bush #1, Clinton, Obama for these stupid rules!

LAGS
03-21-2017, 12:11 AM
Everyone thinks things are going to happen in an instant.
We do not have a Dictator, we have a President.
And like it or not, things still have to move at the "Speed of Government"

bruce drake
03-21-2017, 02:02 AM
http://usriflecal30m1.com/Demilled/FMA.aspx
Perhaps you can convince the Iranians and the Pakistanis to return the Garands we gave them...Or the Communist Vietnamese after they seized the stocks we gave South Vietnam...

psweigle
03-21-2017, 08:04 AM
I want destroyer carbines to start coming to the states again. Maybe some more Russian Nagant revolvers. French MAS possibly? The list goes on!
Give them a little time, I'm sure he will get it done.

Adam Helmer
03-21-2017, 02:26 PM
Cary Gunn,

Have you expressed your request to your U.S. House and Senate Representatives? In a Republic, that is the first step.

Adam

Traffer
03-21-2017, 02:51 PM
We have some good lawyers here. Maybe someone could draw up a petition so people could sign and send to government representatives. THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE!



Cary Gunn,

Have you expressed your request to your U.S. House and Senate Representatives? In a Republic, that is the first step.

Adam

TNsailorman
03-21-2017, 02:54 PM
Don't hold your breath, that bit of de-regulating is way down on the list of "things to do" and don't be surprised when some of our elected "gun friendly" congressmen and senators do a quick 2 step to side track any such legislation introduced. The Washington "insiders"( both D's and R's) don't want this type of legislation any more than Obama, they are part of the problem along with the "internatinalists" and "UN one world government supporters". We don't need to just clear the "swamp", we need to chlorine it. my take anyway, james

Hardcast416taylor
03-21-2017, 03:40 PM
What was that gun law that stopped citizens from getting Thompson`s, was it the 1928 law?Robert

MUSTANG
03-21-2017, 04:05 PM
What was that gun law that stopped citizens from getting Thompson`s, was it the 1928 law?Robert

No that only implemented a $200 tax and review of the person to make sure they were Government approved under the 1934 act. During that period the average wage was $1600.00 annually; $30 a week. Seven weeks of an entire average salary to pay the Tax; yep government way of banning the average citizen from having something without actually passing a ban.

Additional restrictions on registering passed along with 1968 Gun Control act impacted private ownership further. Final nail in coffin from the Fed's came in 1986 when congress banned the possession & transfer of machine-guns (new) except those manufactured prior to May 1986. Once again through legislation removing access from the average US Citizen through taxation and exorbitant coat; a Full Auto can go for several 10's of thousands of $$ to hundreds of thousands of $$$ now due to this 1986 Legislation.

beagle
03-25-2017, 12:15 AM
Yeah, or the thousands of M1903 Springfields (sent over and never used as they were too large for the soldiers) and M1 Carbines and Garands we left over there and my old M1911A1 and my Model 15 S & W and my arsenal reconditioned M97 Riot Gun that I had to leave behind as they were US made. Makes me cry to think about it./beagle


http://usriflecal30m1.com/Demilled/FMA.aspx
Perhaps you can convince the Iranians and the Pakistanis to return the Garands we gave them...Or the Communist Vietnamese after they seized the stocks we gave South Vietnam...

Shiloh
03-25-2017, 06:00 PM
Schmidt Rubin would be nice.

Shiloh

Ray1946
04-24-2017, 03:18 PM
I would like to see some of the Mausers that are still warehoused in many of the South American countries turned loose!.................

Texas by God
04-25-2017, 12:10 AM
Hopefully the Garands and carbines- and wouldn't Springfields and 03A3s be nice? And Mausers, Lee Enfields,and Arisakas oh my!
Best, Thomas.

Speedo66
04-25-2017, 04:08 PM
Trump is supported by the NRA. Most US firearms manufacturers support the NRA. NRA will probably not be behind any bill to allow cheap foreign milsurp guns into the US. Probably same for Trump.

DougGuy
04-25-2017, 04:12 PM
id like to get a garand

Hang tight, soon they may let you go over there and a-hem "test fire" one at the border! :shock:

Blackwater
04-25-2017, 04:36 PM
Gee whiz! Conspiracy theories seem to abound these days, no matter what the subject that comes up. I totally understand the impatience with our legislators, but right now, Trump is focused on really BIG things, like the economy, N. Korea, China, Russia, etc. I suspect he'll get around to this ASAP. We just don't know when it'll be "possible" for him to let go of the big issues and get his "round tuit" for this. Would anyone here want him to forego dealing with N. Korea, China and Russia, just to get a coveted milsurp? There's an old story about a fellow who prayed for patience. "Lord, I want patience, and I want it RIGHT NOW!" Most of us "moderns" frequently resemble that fellow. And yeah, it IS hard to have patience, but .... jumping the gun or leaving more truly serious and consequential issues to deal with this would be .... less than smart and less than honorable. I'll wait. Would LOVE to have one of those Garands!!!! And several more models, to boot!

Ray1946
04-26-2017, 08:42 AM
Guys I hate to say it; but we all may be experiencing a huge PIPE DREAM. There is nothing really wrong with a pipe dream as long as we all recognize it for what it truly is: Wishful thinking lined with a little BS!.........................

WILCO
04-26-2017, 09:58 AM
I believe the Garands will be coming in short order. The CMP needs them:

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/

"The federal law that established the new CMP authorizes the Corporation to sell surplus .30 and.22 caliber military rifles, parts and ammunition to qualified U.S. citizens "for marksmanship". Accordingly, the CMP sells government-surplus M1 Garands, .22 caliber target rifles and small quantities of other rifles to qualified purchasers. Net revenue from CMP sales is used to fund operations and programs and to supplement a permanent endowment."