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JonB_in_Glencoe
03-16-2017, 02:34 PM
This is kind of the holy grail of bullet casting manual collecting, at least it is for me. While not real hard to find, if you're willing to pay a premium, reasonable priced copies in good condition are rare. I paid $24 for this one on Amazon, but the original white colored spline was mostly gone and it was a non-standard size, just like you'd expect from Lyman (ie: similar to the choice of machine screws), luckily I have a spline machine, so I trimmed all the pages slightly, and re-punched them for a standard spline, of course I lost a bit of each page, as you can see in the photos. The rest of the handbook is in great condition, including a foldout poster, so it was well worth the effort.

While most of us, refer to this as the "Lyman cast bullet handbook #1" (and that's why I worded the title that way, for search purposes), that actual title is "Handbook of cast bullets" copyright july 1958. I'm posting photos of my favorite pages, as there is some neat Artwork, I'm hoping this doesn't violate any copyrights?



Cover
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inside cover
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Photo opposite of first preface, H. Guy Loverin
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/Lyman%20CBHB1next%20to%20inside%20cover_zpshmyscw1 p.jpg (http://s640.photobucket.com/user/JonB_in_Glencoe/media/Lyman%20CBHB1next%20to%20inside%20cover_zpshmyscw1 p.jpg.html)

Note from Charles E. Lyman III, credits/thanks to those who helped put this book together.
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typical data page
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Inside back cover
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Front of foldout poster inside back cover
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Back of foldout poster inside back cover
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outside back cover
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pressonregardless
03-16-2017, 06:46 PM
Great book, I'd like to have a print of the back cover !!

shoot-n-lead
03-16-2017, 07:02 PM
Nice...

You got a pretty good deal.

I saw a really nice original recently and IIRC they wanted about $80 for it. I would not pay that if I were just looking for the info as you can get a new reprint...looks identical to the original...for about $25.

54bore
03-17-2017, 01:48 AM
This is really neat to see!!

JBinMN
03-17-2017, 03:28 AM
Thanks for sharing this bit of history! Very cool!
:)

Skinny
03-17-2017, 03:31 AM
Ive got several old issues from my dad's stuff. Theyre in great shape! I just leave them on my shelf with my other load data.

Devon
03-17-2017, 07:13 AM
Notice on that back cover, the woman is pouring hot lead next to the mans bare foot. Just a curious observation.

Teddy (punchie)
03-17-2017, 07:49 AM
Notice on that back cover, the woman is pouring hot lead next to the mans bare foot. Just a curious observation.

She teach him, lol. I think he is looking them over as she casts.

Teddy (punchie)
03-17-2017, 07:52 AM
I looking for my in a box somewhere?? I got my on fleabay but it was with an RCBS casting box also. both in great shape 75 % or better. Ton of info in them.

Thanks for posting pics.

Hardcast416taylor
03-17-2017, 11:22 AM
I was just minutes too late once to purchase a framed red fold out from that manual that showed the cases and lead boolets in a large circle. It sold for $12!Robert

TNsailorman
03-19-2017, 10:15 PM
Sure brings back a lot of good memories to an old dinosaur. Thanks, james

Reverend Al
03-20-2017, 03:11 PM
I've had an original copy of that edition for years now and it definitely is an interesting read. I wonder how many people these days still cast bullets wearing a tie like in the picture of Guy Loverin?

:lol:

Lucky Joe
03-25-2017, 04:22 PM
I have a copy of this manual, ( white spline). It once belonged to my casting, reloading mentor. His library consisted of a little over 9,000 books and magazines, at his passing his daughters sold them all to me. This Lyman manual has been my avatar for some time now. Thanks for posting.

JWFilips
03-25-2017, 04:36 PM
What A Find!

15meter
04-10-2017, 07:08 PM
What I noticed is on the fold out poster there was reference to Saeco lead pots and sizers, where they at one time affiliated with Lyman?

10x
06-16-2017, 12:44 AM
Reprints are available here

http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/item_desc.php?item_id=2949

MOA
07-22-2017, 06:36 PM
Yup, I got mine from Cornell too.

https://s19.postimg.org/e9sggx0xv/Lyman__1_loading_book_front_cover.jpg (https://postimage.org)

https://s19.postimg.org/fq3yz23ur/Lyman__1_loading_book_back_cover.jpg (https://postimage.org)

15meter
07-22-2017, 06:52 PM
And I always cast wearing a white shirt and tie.

Landy88
07-22-2017, 07:10 PM
Nice rebinding of a true classic. Good work, and thanks for sharing -- even though the fold-out is a reminder of the NIB Lyman Ammunition Maker that I kick myself for not buying.

alamogunr
07-22-2017, 10:48 PM
Those comb binding machines are very handy. When they upgraded at work(before I retired) I got the old manual machine. I didn't use it very often but when I did it was the only thing that worked. I printed out a copy(at work) of Paco Kelly's tome on hand guns and lever actions and comb(same as OP's spline) bound it. When I told him about it, he sent me a signed copy of an updated book. Title escapes me.

I did the same thing when I bought the early copies of The Fouling Shot. Back then they were xerox copies and stapled. I even had to recopy with enhanced quality. Well worth it, very interesting.

A few years ago someone else posted pictures of Guy Loverin in his white shirt and tie. We commented on it then too.

BTW I gave the machine to the small local library provided they let me come in a use it occasionally.

gavlan
06-16-2018, 11:20 AM
My original ( I think ) lives in it's Ziplock baggie due to it being fragile because of many years of thumbing...
I love the old Ideal/Lyman books , so much info to be had especially if your looking for a particular dinosaur cartridge load.
My meager collection , 18 or so keep me fascinated.222192

beagle
06-17-2018, 11:24 PM
Zip-lok baggie for mine also. Crazy Mark, before he passed spent several days scanning a #1 onto a disk and sent me a copy so I have a digital backup. I spent many, many days with that old manual when I started casting. No mentor....I was self-schooled and made many mistakes before I turned out a box of twenty .30/06 which were burned in my old 1903A1 Springfield. What do you mean by full length resizing? You mean .30 cases fired in a Browning MG won't chamber in my Springfield unless I full length resize them? Where can I get a FL resize die for a 310 tool? Why don't my primers seat like they're suppose to? What's that little ring around the primer pocket for? Then, I found a mentor./beagle

gavlan
06-18-2018, 09:12 AM
No mentor for me either, I have been casting about 15 years and learned everything from books ( like this ) and hands on.
I have made many,many booboos and will continue to do so, but having the wealth of info these older manuals offer at my bench is priceless.
Now , " good cast loads for 32-20 please" [smilie=1: ,,,,, enter the manuals.

trapper9260
06-18-2018, 09:43 AM
Reprints are available here

http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/item_desc.php?item_id=2949

I got my also from here and also the 2nd ed also that I had missing. I wanted the info on it all Now I have all the cast bullet of Lyman now that is out there.It dose not matter if it is reprint for me.

trapper9260
06-18-2018, 09:48 AM
No one taught me how to cast boolits. My dad taught me how to cast fishing sinkers and I went on casting boolits on my own learn from books of lyman 3rd ed. and went from there and now that I been on this site. I learning more.

georgewxxx
09-21-2018, 09:40 AM
227480 I kinda doubt this hardbound Lyman Handbook Of Cast Bullets was sold commercially anywhere. An old friend died a year ago had this in his library and when bringing some garden produce to his wife, she asked if I wanted it. Needless to say, I said yes.

gunauthor
02-02-2019, 02:30 PM
Very cool thread, just found out that my old 1958 Lyman Handbook of Cast bullets is number one (bought it at a gun show several years ago for seven bucks). I just ordered the 1973 edition from Cornell Publishing. Can't have too much information......

swheeler
02-07-2019, 02:56 PM
Mine sits on the shelf with the other manuals, the white plastic spline is cracked and doubt I will mess with it.

John Boy
02-07-2019, 05:06 PM
My Lyman #1 is in the reference cabinet next to the Ideal Handbook Reloading Ammunition Number 37 - 38 and 39's. Excellent references for non-common bullet powder charges ... if you have a few pounds of the old powders. Here's the old loading data for DuPont BP & Smokeless powders ... http://digital.hagley.org/I20091118_DuPont_Powders#page/9/mode/1up

baileyboy
02-07-2019, 06:02 PM
There are so many cool boolits in there to drool over like the Hudson 3 diameter for the 32-40. Thanks for the tip on the reprint ! It's ordered to save my original.

Bazoo
02-07-2019, 06:13 PM
I have a second edition cast handbook in good shape right now, and I have a reloading handbook 45th that needs new binding. Wish I new someone with a machine. I asked at the school supply store but they didn't have one, they had given it away.

BigAlofPa.
02-07-2019, 07:53 PM
Here is some of my classics.
235524

Skunk1
02-07-2019, 08:03 PM
Have that copy with the foldout and white binding. Use it more than most of my other manuals since I cast with mostly old ideal steel moulds. Donít have a tie to go with it.

alamogunr
02-07-2019, 08:36 PM
Here is some of my classics.
235524

I used to want a copy of the Speer Wildcat manual. Finally decided that considering the rarity and resulting cost, I wouldn't use it. Turned out to be good thinking. I don't have a single wildcat chambered firearm.

sharps4590
02-07-2019, 08:46 PM
What a cool find! I always like the original of anything when I can find or afford it. If not, repops are just fine with me.

10x, thanks for posting that link. I had no idea re-prints were available.

gavlan, does it have any 9 X 57 or 9.3 X 57 data in it?

BigAlofPa.
02-07-2019, 08:46 PM
I don't have any wild cat fire arms either. They came with some others. The one i use the most out of what came is the Lyman 3rd cast book. A fellow on F.B was giving them away. I got some others too. That came with, I enjoy looking through them. I have the poster too like the OP has. I hung it on my wall.

beagle
02-15-2019, 10:38 PM
Cut my teeth on that one as well. Now have two. That's one of the best reference manuals Lyman ever published. Before Orygun Mark (Crazy Mark) passed away, he scanned in the whole manual and sent it to me on a disk. That took time. At least I have a digital backup; legal or not./beagle

10x
02-16-2019, 12:15 PM
What a cool find! I always like the original of anything when I can find or afford it. If not, repops are just fine with me.

10x, thanks for posting that link. I had no idea re-prints were available.

gavlan, does it have any 9 X 57 or 9.3 X 57 data in it?

Castboolits has a thread on 9.3x57 Check your pms

sharps4590
02-16-2019, 02:54 PM
I did 10x and thanks. I was in that thread. I also received the Lyman book from Cornell's a couple days ago. Gotta say I've enjoyed it immensely! I noticed some of the old loads were pretty warm by today's standards, most notably the 45 Colt.

10x
02-16-2019, 03:44 PM
I did 10x and thanks. I was in that thread. I also received the Lyman book from Cornell's a couple days ago. Gotta say I've enjoyed it immensely! I noticed some of the old loads were pretty warm by today's standards, most notably the 45 Colt.

I am starting to find that some of the published loads for 9.3X57 are not even near warm. I have worked up to max published load and discovered no sign of pressure and groups were starting to get smaller but I ran into the max load barrier. Even the max loads seem to be very mild pressure wise.

Walks
02-16-2019, 04:03 PM
I bought mine used at at the Great Western Gun Show in downtown LA back in (1968) H.S. I lived seperate from my Dad and wanted my own copy. It has the white spline and was full on index cards with handwritten loading info. I gave it to my Grandmother to keep while I was in the service. I treat it as if it were as fragile as an old lightbulb. And I have always kept it indoors. Last 25yrs in a zip lock.
Now that I've read here that Cornell Pub. Prints them I'll have to order one for every day use.

BudRow
01-26-2020, 07:43 AM
I bought an original white spine 1958 edition last week at a gun show for a $1.00

10x
01-26-2020, 08:00 AM
I bought an original white spine 1958 edition last week at a gun show for a $1.00

Cornell Publications has reprints.
I had the Number 1 manual - no cover and only realized that I had No 1 after I received the reprint from Cornell

http://www.cornellpubs.com/searchResults.php