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wgr
02-28-2017, 05:02 PM
Any of you guys use the Lyman neck sizer die, for the 45-70

sac
02-28-2017, 05:21 PM
I do for 45-70 and 45-90

Eric Johanen
02-28-2017, 06:49 PM
After fire forming, my cases are not sized again. Lyman neck sized only for both greasers and paper patched bullets. Sizes 45-70 Winchester and 45-90 Starline cases perfectly for my paper patched bullets. .4505 diameter after a run thru a Lee sizing die. I just place 2 7/8 inch washers under the die for the 45-90 and call it good to go. Paper patched bullets are seated .150 into the case and they will not fall out when turned upside down. Work's for me!

wgr
02-28-2017, 07:53 PM
looks like ill have to get one. reloading and casting =saving money.:D but man its fun

country gent
02-28-2017, 10:02 PM
I only neck size also but use a Meacham bushing die. I like the bushings as I can size to just what I need and not oversize

rfd
03-01-2017, 08:56 AM
fire formed brass only for both greasers and ppb's. the only die that touches my .45-70 brass is for powder compression .... OR, if the brass is brandy new it gets "faux fire formed" with a .460" straight wall expander from BACO. never working the brass means i don't need to anneal, and all that's required is proper cleaning ... and loading. :)

Larry Gibson
03-01-2017, 10:46 AM
As I carry my 45-70 ammo in a prairie belt for walk abouts through forests, deserts etc. I NS the 45-70 cases with the Lyman NS die to hold the bullets securely.

Larry Gibson

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Don McDowell
03-01-2017, 11:19 AM
The biggest problem with a "neck" sizer, you need to set it up so that the sized portion of the case goes below the base of the bullet and the wad. Unless it's a specifically built to size the necks so that the bullet will still slip fit the bullet, you're still going to need to expand the case to allow the bullet to seat. I found no advantage to "neck" sizing over full length resizing.
You'll have to try it and see what your rifle and the target tells you.

Soundguy
03-01-2017, 12:40 PM
The biggest problem with a "neck" sizer, you need to set it up so that the sized portion of the case goes below the base of the bullet and the wad. Unless it's a specifically built to size the necks so that the bullet will still slip fit the bullet, you're still going to need to expand the case to allow the bullet to seat. I found no advantage to "neck" sizing over full length resizing.
You'll have to try it and see what your rifle and the target tells you.

Agreed, when talking about cases like 45-70, etc.

EDG
03-01-2017, 01:01 PM
If you have more than one FL die you might check the interior of them to see where the neck portion begins.
45-70 dies can vary a lot even among the same brand when manufactured years apart.

When the FL die has a very long neck section you can partial size cases (neck size) without doing much to the body.

I have a Redding neck die and it is truly a neck die sizing only about 1 caliber down with it too little for a 500 grain gas check in my rifles.
The next die is a Redding FL die, then a RCBS die from the 1980s, then there is a tie between a 1970s RCBS and a Lee die. The last two put a neck on the case about .750 inch long.