New steel expanding slugs from BPI

[Blood Trail]

Anyone seen these? Saw a YouTube vid and sprung $50 for 20. Pricey, but I had to see them for myself. The vid looks pretty impressive.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwDP4ht1RE



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[cpileri]

I had to have some as well, but they are out of stock right now. Order on hold, I guess.

Looks like the little nubbin in front pushes back to expand the petals similar to the "old" brenneke Super Sabot.

I'll try them when they arrive.

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[elvas]

http://www.gualandi.it/en/products_slugs/gualbo_steel.html

[Blood Trail]

I had to have some as well, but they are out of stock right now. Order on hold, I guess.

Looks like the little nubbin in front pushes back to expand the petals similar to the "old" brenneke Super Sabot.

I'll try them when they arrive.

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I bet I bought the last two boxes. Got an email saying the processed my order.

[Bzcraig]

That thing is nasty! Wonder why it's not recommended for smooth bores?

[elvas]

Actually, it was designed for smoothbores.

[cpileri]

video shows them flying crooked from smoothies

[elvas]

Maybe because of the loading procedure. Gualandi slugs are designed to be put directly on top of powder with nothing in between.

[cpileri]

if I ever get my order I will try them in both

[17nut]

Sortof a copy of this:
http://www.ddupleks-usa.com/broadhead-hexolit-32

[Cap'n Morgan]

Sortof a copy of this:
http://www.ddupleks-usa.com/broadhead-hexolit-32

Well, color me not impressed. That's a small boar in the video and the main slug part didn't even exit! Had the boar in the video been a 400 lb "Keiler" and not an "Uberlaufer" the shooter could have a rather angry problem on his hands!

The idea of fragmenting steel slugs may seem great at first glance, but those small fragments lose energy quickly - and don't do all that much damage. There's a reason explosive bullets never took off - so to speak; To kill large critters you need to do damage in the boiler room and beyond, not just on the rib cage. And nothing beats a large wound channel, combined with an exit wound, for an easy-to-follow blood trail.

A well stabilized solid steel slug would be much more deadly - perhaps designed with sharp edges for some "cutting" effect. But keep those parts together!

[cpileri]

ddupleks does make some solid heads

[longbow]

There are also those solid brass and steel slugs that sit in shotcups that should punch right on through:

http://www.ada.ru/guns/hunting/slugs/rubeykina/

Someone posted a link to a video of these being tested against steel plate of 1/8" or so (maybe a bit thinner) placed on an angle and they cut right through. Can't find the link though. It seems to me they were also used against body armour in some uprising and were punching through the body armour.

Looks like they can do alright accuracy wise too:

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Longbow

[Blood Trail]

They're herrrrrreeee....[emoji48] load data only calls for 800x and Longshot. Plan on roll crimping.

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[cpileri]

yeah, mine showed up yesterday too- even though they were out fo stock when I ordered.
Cool.

[Blood Trail]

yeah, mine showed up yesterday too- even though they were out fo stock when I ordered.
Cool.

You gonna fold or roll crimp them? I tried to fold crimp them in a black Rio hull using an 8-crimp and it didn't work so well. Wonder is I should of used 5 pt instead????


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[Ballistics in Scotland]

There is a story Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote in the early days of aviation, about vast, sinister alien creatures with light, ethereal tissues which live in the upper air...

I'm with Cap'n Morgan on this. It seems like a probably good way of doing something that doesn't need to be done. I can't think of many situations in which this would be better than a fairly flat-nosed solid snag, whether lead or something else was used.

Did you notice some of the Youtube links to amateur or commercial shotgun-slug devices? Glass slugs about 2½ calibres in length? Who would have thought aerodynamically-spun slugs got tried and failed a hundred and ten years ago? There seems to be an inexhaustible market for something different.

Still, I was reminded of the furore surrounding Bearclaw bullets many years ago, in which the jacket opened out to form vicious-looking claws. Well it did in the publicity shots anyway. It provoked outrage among those who thought getting shot in the normal way is like it is in the movies, and fuelled resentment of firearms ownership in general.

[cpileri]

not sure yet. prob will roll


You gonna fold or roll crimp them? I tried to fold crimp them in a black Rio hull using an 8-crimp and it didn't work so well. Wonder is I should of used 5 pt instead????


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[elvas]

Definitely roll.
http://www.siarm.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_20_164_60&products_id=2976

[Blood Trail]

There is a story Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote in the early days of aviation, about vast, sinister alien creatures with light, ethereal tissues which live in the upper air...

I'm with Cap'n Morgan on this. It seems like a probably good way of doing something that doesn't need to be done. I can't think of many situations in which this would be better than a fairly flat-nosed solid snag, whether lead or something else was used.

Did you notice some of the Youtube links to amateur or commercial shotgun-slug devices? Glass slugs about 2½ calibres in length? Who would have thought aerodynamically-spun slugs got tried and failed a hundred and ten years ago? There seems to be an inexhaustible market for something different.

Still, I was reminded of the furore surrounding Bearclaw bullets many years ago, in which the jacket opened out to form vicious-looking claws. Well it did in the publicity shots anyway. It provoked outrage among those who thought getting shot in the normal way is like it is in the movies, and fuelled resentment of firearms ownership in general.

The only reason why I got them was because of that lead free hog hunt I'm doing. I'll also be taking some zinc slugs.


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[Ballistics in Scotland]

I think the only thing against simple zinc slugs is from the makers' point of view, that there is nothing patentable about them. Anything someone makes for 25 cents today, somebody else can import from China for 5 cents next month.

[Blood Trail]

Range report coming this evening!


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