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PerpetualStudent
01-12-2017, 02:25 PM
They do seem to be coming back and we weren't hit with a new panic in November/December. So maybe this year we'll see it on the shelves consistently.

The next question is, what do you guys expect the low grade 22 to sell for once there's stock?

I am not that old but I saw 525 rounds for 12 bucks at WalMart. That was only a decade ago we paid 2-3 cents a round. Personally I doubt we'll dip below 5 cents a round again. What say you?

MUSTANG
01-12-2017, 02:42 PM
No forecast on what prices will be, although I doubt we will ever see a 550 pack for $7.50 again at Walmart sitting on pallets. Best I have been doing last few months is $2.99 per 50 rounds at the Kalispell Sportsman Ski Haus. Availability is hit and miss. Most 22LR's are much higher at this and other locations. Pick up two boxes each time I find them there.

JonB_in_Glencoe
01-12-2017, 02:53 PM
I bought a case right before the election, not bulk packs, I don't do bulk packs (these were CCI Blazer in 50rd segregated boxes).
I paid about 8¢ each...they will be for family use, so I won't really lose any money?

I expect the price to come down...probably to about half what I paid.

B. Lumpkin
01-12-2017, 05:08 PM
I've been buying Federal Champion 525 bulk packs for $22.99 out the door for several months now.

michael.birdsley
01-13-2017, 12:50 AM
I think 3.99-4.98 for plain Jane .22 per 50. It's allready at most places but, you are paying 4.99-5.99 per 50


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dverna
01-13-2017, 01:05 AM
Cheap 9mm is about $10-11

.22's should settle into the $2.50-$3 area.

Don Verna

RogerDat
01-13-2017, 02:24 AM
Meijers (wal-mart competitor) has a steady supply of CI at $5.99 for 50 which might be why they still have them.

GhostHawk
01-13-2017, 08:27 AM
Demand is up, add in any fear at all and production can not meet demand.

As a result this is the new normal.

"Normal" price is going to be 7 or 8 cents each, 6 cents is going to be the bottom sale price. If there is any hitch, any fear, or more than normal buying going on price will be over 10 cents a round.

I oiled and cleaned my rifle 2 years ago, it is put away. I have centerfire that will do the job better for less. Like 4.6 grains of Red Dot below the Bator boolit in .223 without gas check. 3 cents for primer, 1.5 cents for powder, half a penny for lead. More accurate for longer range with heavier boolit than .22lr, sounds about the same, hits harder for about the same cost. Why shoot .22lr?

.223, .300BO, 7.62x39, .357 mag all single shots, all capable of being loaded for the same or less than a .22lr, all more bang for the buck.

Cheap .22lr is no more, its dead.

Skunk1
01-13-2017, 09:01 AM
18.99/325 shipped for free to me door from cabelas right before Christmas. Bought 4 boxes for my daughter as that's all I could afford at the time.

nagantguy
01-13-2017, 09:11 AM
Meijers (wal-mart competitor) has a steady supply of CI at $5.99 for 50 which might be why they still have them.
You are right on with that, and as we shop at the same store I've noticed as well that they've had the very same boxes for weeks and weeks!

dragon813gt
01-13-2017, 09:23 AM
Availability is still regional. There are still none to be found at Walmart by me. If it's gets back to $20 a brick, 500 not 325, I will be happy.

Traffer
01-13-2017, 11:05 AM
I have seen them for under $.06 per round in the past year. The local Fleet & Farm has 22lr on the shelf now but they are Eley and more expensive and they have the rare 22 shorts in stock also. Personally I think that we will be seeing UNDER $.04 per round. And in stock at any time at the local Wallyworld for under $.05. I predict that these prices will be seen in about 18 months. Put that in your chamber and fire it!

2wheelDuke
01-13-2017, 11:08 AM
I still haven't seen .22lr on the shelf at any local WalMarts. Bass Pro still has it fly off the shelves pretty quickly. The local gun shop's prices are steep, so it sits on his shelves a good while longer.

The market still has a long way to go towards recovering from what I can see.

wv109323
01-14-2017, 01:09 AM
22 LR should settle in around 4-5 cents a piece.
A promo 9MM sells for 26 cents a round. A 22 LR has 1/3 the lead, about 1/10 the brass and about 1/5 the powder. The 9MM has a primer cup and the 22 LR has just primer compound. The 9MM has a jacketed bullet and the 22 has a swagged lead bullet. Based on raw materials 4-5 cents would be about right.
i done some research from 1995 to present. Some ammo was about the same , rifle was as much as 100% up but 22LR was 350% up.

shdwlkr
01-14-2017, 06:02 PM
I think you will see 22lr ammo up about 15-20% from the old prices as costs of materials have gone up so manufacturers are going to pass that onto the buyer. They are not going to make a product for less than cost, they would be out of business in short order if that happens.

Duckdog
01-14-2017, 06:19 PM
The Fleet Farm by me has not had any 22 LR in a long time. They did have one pallet right around deer season, but the limit was two boxes of Remington 500 packs. Now, there are none to be found.

I also just bought some from Cabelas for under .07 shipped to my door. Not too bad, with the limited supply we have in northern Wisconsin.

fatelk
01-14-2017, 08:15 PM
I have to agree with those that said somewhere in the ballpark of $20/500 or less for the cheapest bulk pack. I was just at a gun show this morning and one vendor had a pallet of Federal Automatch 325 packs for $18 each. Barring unusual political circumstances and assuming that production and demand eventually balance out to where you can find the shelves stocked any day of the week, I think you can make a pretty valid prediction based on historic (pre-scare) retail prices coupled with increased cost of production and inflation. Shdwlkr's 15 to 20% sounds likely and reasonable enough to me.

I've heard people talk over the years about how the rising price of metals means that ammo will be so dramatically more expensive than it ever was. Some simple math shows that this doesn't add up. It's pretty easy to calculate exactly how much brass and lead are in a brick of .22 LR ammo: about 12 ounces of brass and under 3 pounds of lead. Let's say that the market cost for brass and lead has doubled. That would only account for maybe $3 per brick increase in cost of production.

Camba
01-14-2017, 08:16 PM
My prediction:
There are more shooters now than there were prior to Obama. So the demand will continue to be there but prices will follow the law of supply and demand. Some of the shooters that got several k rounds will not be immediately urged to buy more, unless the price comes down near the pre-obama prices.
Ultimately, the price will level to $20/brick in the lower end bulk and such.
Just my prediction.
Camba

Plate plinker
01-14-2017, 08:37 PM
What is this 22lr you are referring too?

375RUGER
01-14-2017, 10:18 PM
I've been paying ~$44.00/M for cci, for the past year or so and all things considered I don't even hesitate at that price. I expect that the average is not going to fluctuate much from that. Not that I like it but I still buy gas when it's $4+. I now refer to $7.50/M as the good-ol-days.

RogerDat
01-14-2017, 10:50 PM
What is this 22lr you are referring too?

A very rare and precious ammunition, made from unicorn sneezes and beer farts of leprechauns. As such not easily reloaded holding some shooters hostage to scalper prices or sending fun firearms into a frozen space time continuum known as the lands of the safe queen.

Plate plinker
01-14-2017, 11:11 PM
A very rare and precious ammunition, made from unicorn sneezes and beer farts of leprechauns. As such not easily reloaded holding some shooters hostage to scalper prices or sending fun firearms into a frozen space time continuum known as the lands of the safe queen.
Well I am not far from Notre Dame should I go catch that Leprechaun? Its the Unicorn I might have trouble with, would a My Little Pony Unicorn suffice?

kmrra
01-14-2017, 11:20 PM
Prices wont drop, we get 22 ammo here all the time still sell like hot cakes, , if you want to taken to the cleaners , go to gun broker and buy it from the hoarders

rockrat
01-15-2017, 12:37 AM
Our Wal-mart got some in. Luckily, someone missed the 1000 rnd brick at the back of the locked cabinet(was kind of hidden). Was $50.47+tax. First 22's I have seen at our Wal-mart in over two years

aspangler
01-15-2017, 01:05 AM
Local Wallyworld has had 22lr on the shelf 3 of the last 4 times I was there. Bought some each time. LGS had CCI blazer for 22.99/500. Didn't have much money to spare at the time but I got 2 bricks. Don't shoot it very often anymore but am getting ready to start some of the local kids shooting this spring health premitting. I see a LOT of 22lr in this area.

Brian10956
02-12-2017, 06:56 PM
I don't know how old it was but I found a box of 50 with A $.89 price sticker and they still worked decent group

sghart3578
02-12-2017, 07:50 PM
My prediction, based on nothing:

$.02 per round by this fall. Inventory is stacking up.

If I am wrong I will give you your money back.


Steve in N CA

shoot-n-lead
02-12-2017, 08:08 PM
Unless it goes down...a lot...I will probably never buy another round. We used to buy ridiculous amounts of bricks. I have not seen a brick in over 3yrs...and would do me no good to see one...as I will not pay $25 for a brick of .22. And, I most certainly won't pay the price for the more premium ammo....y'all can have my share.

54bore
02-12-2017, 11:38 PM
Unless it goes down...a lot...I will probably never buy another round. We used to buy ridiculous amounts of bricks. I have not seen a brick in over 3yrs...and would do me no good to see one...as I will not pay $25 for a brick of .22. And, I most certainly won't pay the price for the more premium ammo....y'all can have my share.

I agree!!! I bought an air rifle

GhostHawk
02-13-2017, 10:23 AM
7 cents ea is the new low. Come fall demand will force price up again.

I just invested in a new air rifle at 4,000 .22 pellets at 1.89 cents ea.

Rifle is a Hatsan 135 QE Vortex that shoots 11.9 grain pellets at 1050 fps average. I am guessing but I think that will put my 14.3 Crossman Premier Hollow Points in the mid 800's to 900 fps with a foot pounds of energy at muzzle around 23-25.

Cheap shooting, and if required I can shoot .22 round balls made with sharpshooter mold. Not quite as accurate but it would allow me to put meat in the pot as long as I have lead.

bubba.50
02-13-2017, 12:26 PM
I predict it will stay sky-high in my area unless & until the gougers who line up at Wally-World to meet the truck & scarf it all up get tired of haulin' it around to the gunshows.

tdoyka
02-13-2017, 04:40 PM
Unless it goes down...a lot...I will probably never buy another round. We used to buy ridiculous amounts of bricks. I have not seen a brick in over 3yrs...and would do me no good to see one...as I will not pay $25 for a brick of .22. And, I most certainly won't pay the price for the more premium ammo....y'all can have my share.


me too!!!!

i'm only using my 6.5mm and .204 caliber is a nosler. and as soon as my 20 vartarg shoots them, then its midsouth's 34gr hp.

Bazoo
02-13-2017, 04:56 PM
Around here, 22's are available most of the time. It seems to rotate as to what is available. Most stores do not have a purchase limit now, or have a 500 round limit.

Around here, i've seen or purchased of recent,
Aguila HV x 50 for 4.99
CCI minimags x 100 for 9.99
Winchester competitor to mini mags x100 for 9.99
Winchester M22x500 for 30.00
Bricks of CCI blazer for 30.00
Remington thunderbolt bricks for 30.00
remington golden bullets bucket x1400 for 80.00
federal automatch x300 for 20.00
american eaglex50 for 2.50

tazman
02-13-2017, 09:29 PM
For my rifles, the only thing I can compare is a loaded down 223. Primer, powder, and gas check run over 6 cent per round. I can get 22lr for around that or a penny more.
The 22lr shoot better for me and I don't have to load them.
There seem to be plenty of 22lr in this area except for the Wal Mart stores. Everybody else has them.

GhostHawk
02-13-2017, 10:03 PM
Tazman I agree, for rifle I have several options including centerfire .223 .300bo, .357 mag, and 9mm. No gas checks needed, in that 6-8 cent area.

For pistol I still shoot some, wife still shoots some. So once or twice a year we order a couple thousand online. I have been getting my Federal Champion automatch from Bud's gun shop at 7 cents each. 325 per box, 6 boxes is just a hair under 2k rounds, shipping was 23$ spread over those 6 boxes and a couple of other items.

Higher than I like but not so high that I won't buy them. I'd rather have too many than not enough. I do not see prices going down anytime soon.

tazman
02-13-2017, 11:55 PM
A few months ago, one of the "farm" store chains in this area had a sale on Winchester M22 ammunition at right at $60 per thousand rounds. Some of the stores had 1 k limits, others had 2 k limits. I had to make a run to visit my daughter that passed 4 of those stores, so I stopped at every one of them on the way. I ended up with 7 thousand rounds that day.
It isn't the best ammunition, but it is far from the worst. Makes great practice rounds in the rifles and works well in the pistols.

wv109323
02-14-2017, 03:48 PM
I shopped 2 LGS. I noticed they both had a good supply 22LR. Federal SV and HV target was 4.99 per 50. CCI SV was $39.99 per brick. They had about 10 bricks on the shelf. No signs that ammo was restricted. They also had a supply of the top dollar Eley, SL and Wolf.

Texas by God
02-14-2017, 03:53 PM
Fort Worth Texas Academy has CCI mini mag $7/100. Aguila $4/50. Best, Thomas.

LUCKYDAWG13
02-15-2017, 10:26 AM
Gander has some on sale by me http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Federal-Premium-Champion-Target-AutoMatch-Solid-Rimfire-Ammo-22-LR-40-Gr&i=757197

sparky45
02-15-2017, 11:56 AM
FINALLY found some 22's at a local Walmart; Winchester 555 pack and I got the last one. $27.95, so just over $30 for the box.

308Jeff
02-15-2017, 12:15 PM
I won't pay more than 5 cents a round. I'd rather load 9mm or 40 first.

marlin39a
02-15-2017, 04:15 PM
I was buying like crazy before Obama. I have ammo cans stuffed with bricks of 22 I bought at under $10.00. The future? I'll bet around $25.00.

rototerrier
02-15-2017, 04:27 PM
Prices will drop. Not sure where they will bottom out, but Cabelas has already sent out an email indicating there's no longer any limits on 22. They've not reduced the prices, but this tells me they are trying to move inventory first by keeping the price steady. Once people get their no-limit fill, the next thing they'll have to do to keep inventory moving will be to reduce prices. It's inevitable. Sell as much as you can at the current prices then reduce prices. Now I could be wrong, and there's an unlimited number of people out there that will pay current prices for every box on the shelf! We'll see.

scattershot
02-17-2017, 11:58 AM
I look for prices to come down. Maybe not to $10.00/brick like in the good old days, but substanially. You can see prices starting to waver and buying limits being removed now, and I think it will just get better as time goes on. Most folks have a pretty good supply now, due to panic buying, and that will create less of a demand.

Way I see it, anyway.

Der Gebirgsjager
02-17-2017, 12:16 PM
Yesterday, finally, I walked into Bi-Mart and they had .22 ammo on the shelf. There were no bricks. I saw 3 brands that I did not recognize that appeared to be 50 rd. boxes and they were priced in the $7-$8 range. I just ignored them because there were perhaps 10 boxes of Winchester Super-X at $7.48 per box and they were the long plastic 100 round boxes. I asked the girl behind the counter if I could have 3 boxes and she said, "No, but you may have two." That's the most .22 ammo I've been able to buy there in 4 years. So, doing the math, that's 7.48 cents per round X 500 = $37.40 a brick. Much, much too high, but at the time it seemed more palatable at the per box price. The same girl said that the supply is still iffy, but improving. If you pour enough water into a bucket with a hole in the bottom eventually it will fill up and overflow, so apparently the hoarders that feel secure with one million rounds per family member are finally being satisfied and letting some slip away for normal folks. I'm guessing it will eventually become commonly available again and the brick price will settle at about $25, plus or minus a little for brand and bullet type.

trapper9260
02-17-2017, 02:52 PM
Last week I was in one sport store that I get some reloading supply and all. I talk with the manger of the hunting area about all he think that for how it is going that it will take about 2 years to get close to normal. Also the ones that was buying for the need to buy are not anymore. it is just the want now that is with guns and ammo.it is a big differents now he said. he did say that the 22 might get down to about $25 or lower. But that is the cheap ammo. But there is not much of that out there yet.So time will tell after the times gose. Also we have alot of new gun owners out there now.Thanks to Zero.

rockrat
02-17-2017, 05:13 PM
Target sports has Federal automatch for $19.90/325 if you buy a case. Free shipping. Just a little over $0.06/round

robg
02-17-2017, 05:16 PM
Upward prices over here always

RogerDat
02-17-2017, 05:27 PM
At 6 cents a round why not shoot 38 special? Or 9mm? Heck if you want to save on lead and are just plinking a 105 gr. mold + little smidge of Titegroup/Bullseye + primer and you are probably out less than the 6 cents a round.

Price will drop a bit I think, $5 per hundred seems about what I would expect. With maybe the occasional deal on bricks to bring it just under that. I think the folks that suggest retailers are just sucking the last little drops of profit out of the panic of 2013 are correct. Price and demand will hit an equilibrium as more people just walk buy it. Which in the local big box store price of $5.99 is exactly what I do, wonder past humming walk on by...

I get that ammo is more in Europe, what is it in Mexico?

GhostHawk
02-17-2017, 10:35 PM
Demand is high, as long as it is the price will stay where it is or raise to meet it.

Accept what is, IS.

Ok?

So you maybe could have planned better. That is how you learn.
The glory days of cheap .22lr ammo are gone. But I think now is a good time to build a stash if you can afford to.

Dreaming about the glory days, or being angry and frustrated at those who have learned how to work the system accomplishes nothing.

The reality is .22lr is readily available at 7 cents a round. Once in a while you may find some for sale cheaper. Usually off brands, new brands, or stuff that frankly I'd rather not gum up my guns with.

Yes I admit I am fussy, and yes I admit I no longer trust Remington ammo like I used to.
I was a real remington fan boy. Well they burned that bridge not me, good luck getting me back across it.

My Ruger 10/22 is retired. Have not put 50 rounds through it in the last 3 years.

Last night I loaded 50 .444 marlin rounds. 210 grain cast bullet at about 3 cents ea for lead.

The brass I bought as a long term investment. With care it lasts a long long time. 50 of them happened to be primed and ready to go. So with a small charge of pistol powder I can shoot them for about 5 cents each.

WAY WAY WAY more bang for the buck. You shoot something with that, or the .357 or the 9mm or the .300BO you KNOW it has been shot.

There are so many alternatives nowdays.

So you have a choice, go do something, or sit and cry in your beer.

Me I'll load inexpensive lower speed centerfire with Red Dot or similar powders and go have some fun. I'll also shoot air rifle in .22 a lot more at 1.8 cents a shot. Just about a toss up for accuracy. A little less power and longer ranges but certainly effective inside of 50 and for most things inside of 75 yards.

MarkP
02-17-2017, 11:15 PM
$16.50 / 550 round bulk pack this is the price at the peak commodity prices, (Copper, Zinc, Steel, fuel) that is if demand is lower and companies are not paying overtime wages to meet production requirements.

dragon813gt
02-18-2017, 10:19 AM
$16.50 / 550 round bulk pack this is the price at the peak commodity prices, (Copper, Zinc, Steel, fuel) that is if demand is lower and companies are not paying overtime wages to meet production requirements.

They weren't this price before they sky rocketed. $20 was the norm for the bulk packs. If they get back to that I will start buying cases again.

fatelk
02-19-2017, 01:38 AM
Around here $15 or $16 per brick was fairly normal before things went nuts. Maybe it was more elsewhere, I can't say.

As to loading pistol rounds for the same price, that's all well and good if you have more time than money. With a houseful of kids I don't have a lot of either right now. When my kids go to the range with me we always take a .22 or two, and a nickel a round is still cheap compared to hours spent casting and loading for anything else.

It does grate a little, considering that just a few years ago I was buying surplus 8mm Mauser ammo for a nickel per round delivered from Century Arms. I miss those days.

Clark
02-20-2017, 01:35 AM
At $30/brick, adjusted for inflation, it is back to pre obama prices
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr

But if it is CCI CB short for back yard pest control you want
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22-short
not so good

fatelk
02-20-2017, 11:47 AM
We either have different memories about what "pre-obama" prices were, or there are some pretty extreme regional variations.

fecmech
02-20-2017, 12:09 PM
About a year or so prior to the great 22 shortage I got a case of CCI Blaser Bulk 525 packs From Palmetto that came out to $16.50/500 delivered to my door. I shoot very little .22 rimfire any more

LAKEMASTER
02-20-2017, 02:15 PM
a year ago, i was very fortunate, i stumbled upon ( limit 3 ) 550 remington bulk ( whatever type ) 22 lrs. for 21.77 a box

i walked into walmart to buy food/fishing stuff for a boating trip and walked away with 22lrs lol

308Jeff
02-25-2017, 12:16 PM
Not bad....188980

Palmetto State Armory

dragon813gt
02-25-2017, 12:25 PM
That's $10 more than they used to be. Blazers were always priced below Remington's Goldenturds.

308Jeff
02-25-2017, 12:43 PM
That's $10 more than they used to be. Blazers were always priced below Remington's Goldenturds.

It sure is. They were $20.00 the last time I bought em. Free shipping and no tax makes it a decent deal though.

kmrra
02-25-2017, 02:13 PM
LGS's aroung here have all the 22 ammo you want even 22 Mag seams to have leaveled off here, prices are a tad lowed than 2 years ago, one store even bought 10k round from one of the local horders aroung here for 275 bux guess he speculated a little wrong , as did I by hording AR's but they dont eat anything and we will have another scare one day then I will cash out.

funnyjim014
02-25-2017, 02:44 PM
Since the great panic of 2013, I have only fired 8 .22s. 2 dead woodchucks and 1 cyl of a Rev I inherited. I have not bought any since problem 2009ish. I refuse to pay that much money for a one time cheaply made product that especially for big green has poor quality control.if they go under 15 a brick I'll buy some but I forsee them only going to 20 or 25 a brick. People have become accustomed to over paying and will think that's a fair price.

garym1a2
02-26-2017, 12:14 AM
Gun store I was in had these for $22 each 325 box. Lots in stock.

Target sports has Federal automatch for $19.90/325 if you buy a case. Free shipping. Just a little over $0.06/round

Earlwb
03-05-2017, 10:58 AM
It is improving quite a bit for .22 LR's in the stores. Every store I visited has it in stock. Even some in the local Walmart too. Academy used to keep the .22 ammo behind the counter and now it is out in front at the end of a aisle too. Some stores even had .22 WMR ammo out on the shelves in limited amounts.

But as for the prices, I doubt the prices will ever go back to the old days prices. The cost of materials and new taxes will preclude that. But maybe the prices will be better and lower than the previous exorbitant rates that were being charged during the shortages.

richmanpoorman
03-06-2017, 02:11 PM
paying 5 cents/round for high speed in 5000 lots.

the internet is your friend

https://www.ammograb.com/22-lr/

snowwolfe
03-08-2017, 07:45 PM
I will pay up to $40 per brick of 500 for CCI SV, Mini Mags, or Blazers. In fact, anytime I see any for up to that price I grab a brick or two.

Geezer in NH
03-18-2017, 08:48 PM
Bass Pro Manchester NH son bought 500 rnd box Rem Thunderbolts for $29.99 last thursday

country gent
03-18-2017, 08:54 PM
WIth the new manufacturers and increased production implemented during the runs or scares. Once these die down and supply is satisfied we may see cheaper 22 ammo than before. My question is what will the quality be/ Cheap ammo isn't worth a dang if its not reliable and accurate

trapper9260
03-19-2017, 07:38 AM
I was in the Walmart that I show up once in awhile had 22lr for a change.Rems brick 525 about $29+ in change a box and CCI 50 count box $3+ change.I did not need any did not get any. But that was the first I seen some in there.Still to high cost to me.I did see the Cabelas have drop there price some .But not far enough. I had talk with the ammo guy there he told me that they are over stock with ammo and have no place to put it. SO hope they will drop the price or they will eat it.

rototerrier
03-19-2017, 09:03 AM
At the last Atlanta gun show, all ammo and guns were priced as if nothing had changed. There were fewer vendors though. I suspect the next gun show will be much different. Hoping they all learned their lesson this time. I didn't buy anything and it appeared i wasn't alone. 22 prices will drop right along side everything else. Just going to take a little more time.

eric.scorpio
03-19-2017, 12:14 PM
My local Meijer made the mistake of setting 6 bricks of those 50 rd CI boxes on the shelf marked $5.99 last summer. They honored the price for the three of us buying 2 each. Can't beat 1.2 cents per. :D

rintinglen
03-19-2017, 10:32 PM
Sigh, I envy you folks back east that are finding good deals on 22s. Here they run .08 to .10 a piece, for run-of-the-mill plinkers. Target ammo runs 20-30 cents each, but you don't have to worry, it's never in stock anyway...
I still have a few thousand left from 2010 purchases, but the day will come when the well runs dry, unless I make a road trip with a pocket full of hundreds.

AK Caster
03-20-2017, 09:36 PM
LGS's aroung here have all the 22 ammo you want even 22 Mag seams to have leaveled off here, prices are a tad lowed than 2 years ago, one store even bought 10k round from one of the local horders aroung here for 275 bux guess he speculated a little wrong , as did I by hording AR's but they dont eat anything and we will have another scare one day then I will cash out.

I just don't see how another AR shortage is even possible in the next 30-40 years. I know people who have stock piled 30-40 lowers. Plus AR's can be bought today for $500-600

ikarus1
03-24-2017, 11:32 AM
my local Cabela's store is full of 22LR at 'reasonable' prices. My personal cost targets are 8-10 cents for "quality" ammo such as CCI SV and mini-mags, fed powershock, and aguila 38 max, and 5-6 cents for bulk ammo like Automatch, Fed packs of 36 CPHP, and Winchester. So far I have been able to buy all I want for the last couple of years by waiting for sales and free shipping, and the occasional Walmart score.

I lowered my Wikiarms price alerts when I started getting 25+ emails a day at 8 cents each, then I knew the great price gouge/panic days were truly over. I slowed my rimfire shooting during 2013 by a bit, but I have 2 teen boys with hungry semi-autos, so when we do a range day we probably burn at least a brick at a time. Been going thru the cheap stuff first when I bought Fed lightning 511b bricks for $15 sometime around 2012. The last ones I saw were closer to $40 last week since they have now put 510bs in "powershock" category.

I ain't skeered though, I'm still buying rimfire guns at a 1:1 ratio with centerfire. There's always the reloading kits *snicker* from http://22lrreloader.com/

ikarus1
03-24-2017, 11:42 AM
I just don't see how another AR shortage is even possible in the next 30-40 years. I know people who have stock piled 30-40 lowers. Plus AR's can be bought today for $500-600

They can be built quite a bit cheaper at a higher quality level. PSA has had some CHF FN barreled 18" middy uppers with FF handguard complete for $400. Would make a heck of a DMR

Andyd
03-29-2017, 01:24 AM
Ammo is pretty much an international commodity. In Germany prices for 50 rounds boxed rimfire ammo increased from €2.00 to €3.30/4.00 (depending on quantity breaks) in the last ten years. CCI manufactured Top Shot .22 l.r. ammo is readily available. That includes import duty and 19%VAT, so go figure.
20 years ago ammo in the U.S. was considerably cheaper.

toallmy
03-29-2017, 04:02 AM
I'm still waiting for availability as well as price , I miss getting new shooters behind a 22 with a few pop cans laying around .

Gunslinger1911
04-01-2017, 08:51 PM
I bought a case of CCI standard vel right before the drama. I have shot it sparingly since (dammit, I love my 22's).
I can load 9mm and 45acp/Colt for around 6-8 cents a shot. I have a 22 Hornet that loads cheaper.
I'll pay $30 maybe $35 bux for a brick of CCI (not happening in Ohio yet).
With the supposed increase in production the factories put in, I forsee 22's going down in price, I just hope it's soon.

trapper9260
04-01-2017, 09:00 PM
For the price of them now I would not buy them too high price still.I got enough anyways for trapping and what ever to last me for some time.I got them before this whole thing broke out also have some that my dad and I got back in the late 70's and 80's.I still use them.I will wait for the price to drop before I get anymore.I have my reloads that I can make it to use a light loads and will not cost as much to shoot also.Thanks to this site that I learn to do that for light loads.

C. Latch
04-01-2017, 09:05 PM
I can remember prices well under $0.02 per round for cheap plinking ammo in the not-too-distant past, but I don't expect to ever see that again. I'll buy a LOT of ammo is prices ever get below $0.04 again. I doubt that I'm alone there, and, because of that, prices will probably never drop much below that again. Likewise, if mini-mags and good target ammo get down near $0.06 per round, I'll buy a lot of them, too.

jsizemore
04-02-2017, 11:55 AM
Once folks get used to paying 4 times the original price, twice doesn't look so bad. Kinda like gas. Now we're seeing layoffs at the ammo manufacturing plants, so whatever the current price and availability is will be what we're stuck with except for the occasional "sale".

Der Gebirgsjager
04-18-2017, 03:27 PM
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Happy days are here again! Purchased just yesterday at the Bi-Mart in Sweet Home, OR. Several other brands also in 50 and 100 size packages.
I expressed my shock to the young lady behind the counter and asked, "How much can I buy?" She said, "You can buy two of these 100 round packs, or one of these 500 round bricks." She pulled it from the shelf and handed it to me, and I commented that there was another one like it behind it on the shelf. "Yes," she said in a conspiratorial whisper, "And I've got twenty more of them in the back room!" I guess you want to know what the brick cost? I'm embarrassed -- $39.90. But now I can take my granddaughters shooting again! :D

Teddy (punchie)
04-22-2017, 06:37 PM
Well I was Bad and got the last, at two different Walmart's of m22 winchester 53. something each. We are done buying unless sale or we shoot some. Well more then some.

psweigle
04-22-2017, 08:13 PM
$.06 a round is about where they will settle in, I'm guessing. I haven't bought any in years. It costs me $.05 a round to reload almost all of my pistol ammo, and my kids and I enjoy reloading and casting, so I doubt I will be buying .22 any time soon.

Traffer
11-18-2018, 04:54 AM
Reviving this old thread to show everyone's predictions. I predicted under 4 cents per in 18 months. That was 21 months ago. I just saw some thunderbolts for under 3 cents per at Walmart.

fatelk
11-18-2018, 09:44 PM
It sure took long enough, but it finally happened. I figured for sure we'd see 4 cents bulk ammo when the shelves were stocked to overflowing, and am glad to see I was wrong. Recently I've been seeing sales and have bought a fair amount for under 3 cents per. The local Walmart has that same Thunderbolt 500 round boxes for $14.58.

Drm50
11-18-2018, 10:33 PM
I still have thousands of rounds of Pre Obama 22ammo. I didn't buy and hoarde during the pinch, I
had just bought up ammo at auctions and kept all the ammo I had in stock when I folded up shop.
The only 22ammo I have bought in years was CCI Std-Vel for plinking ammo in some Target pistols to avoid using up premium target ammo. I bought it at about .04 per rnd. Before the pinch the bulk
ammo was dependable stuff. Maybe not as accurate as premium boxed in 50 & 100 pks but it had a
very low rate of misfires. Bulk ammo from the last several years is some mighty common stuff with
high rate of misfires and not uniform powder charges. Now that ammo is back down in price is the
QC of bulk ammo back to normal?

fatelk
11-19-2018, 01:46 AM
So far my kids and I have shot a few hundred rounds each of Thunderbolt and Federal "Black Pack", with zero misfires in the Ruger 10/22. There were maybe two or three jams, but I attributed that to the cheap Butler Creek magazines.

JonB_in_Glencoe
11-19-2018, 11:59 AM
posted: 01-12-2017, 12:53 PM

I bought a case right before the election, not bulk packs, I don't do bulk packs (these were CCI Blazer in 50rd segregated boxes).
I paid about 8¢ each...they will be for family use, so I won't really lose any money?

I expect the price to come down...probably to about half what I paid.

well, I haven't seen Blazers for 4¢ yet :-(

rockrat
11-19-2018, 01:31 PM
Federal bulk packs under $0.03/rnd, after rebate

thekidd76
11-19-2018, 01:31 PM
Just bought a couple Federal "Black Packs" of 1600 rounds for $39.99 after a $20 mail in rebate....so just under 2.5 cents per round.

thekidd76
11-19-2018, 01:31 PM
Jinx!

wv109323
11-19-2018, 09:58 PM
Na..na..Na I predicted 4-5 cents a round for CCI SV. It is there now at 5 cents or 250 per case. With manufacturers offering rebates it means they are setting on inventory and need to move it. Under 3 cents a round means they are desperate.

MrWolf
11-20-2018, 09:49 AM
Federal bulk packs under $0.03/rnd, after rebate

Just bought two of them myself.

The Governor
11-20-2018, 10:02 AM
Got a brick of Blazers. 500 for $30. That's at the lgs that I've found to be a little high on ammo

smkummer
11-22-2018, 01:17 PM
Academy had fed. 22lr black packs (1600 rds.) for 49.99 plus $20 rebate. $3 Kentucky tax on $50 so after rebate, $33 per 1600 rounds. That’s about .02. ea. I bought 3 packs. Both Louisville locations ran out 22 Tuesday. Blazer 9mm bulk came to $65 for 500 after $20 rebate. Good times again.

My speculation is the manufactures got used to the artificial demand and may need to tone down production or deal with excess inventory. I also believe it’s only a matter of time before 380 gets as cheap as 9mm with so many states now having CC laws. 380 uses less brass, lead, powder and copper plus it is lighter to ship, its only a matter of time.

alamogunr
11-22-2018, 05:36 PM
Does anyone have knowledge of a scalper who got stuck with expensive .22's?

kevin c
11-25-2018, 03:38 AM
PSA has "Swamp People" 300 pack 36 gr MiniMags on close out for $13.99, free shipping for 5 or more.

Idaho45guy
11-25-2018, 04:12 AM
PSA has "Swamp People" 300 pack 36 gr MiniMags on close out for $13.99, free shipping for 5 or more.

It's the shipping that will get you. I'm OK spending $20 on a brick of .22lr for decent hollow point ammo. But to then charge $19 for shipping?? Nope. I rarely shoot .22 and don't need 5000 rounds in order to save on shipping. I'll pay the extra penny per round and shop locally.

atr
11-25-2018, 11:50 AM
Blazer .22 Long rifle .... $20.00 for 500

fatelk
11-25-2018, 01:24 PM
I never thought I'd ever buy .22lr ammo for less than 2 cents each, but I pretty much have a long term supply now. I picked up 8,000 rounds of the Federal "Black Pack" ammo on a black Friday special. I already submitted the online rebate, comes to about 94 cents per 50 round box, after rebate. That's about the cheapest I ever remember paying when I started shooting back in the 80's, and 94 cents was a lot more money back then.

Not that I worry much about the cost of 22 ammo. I really don't shoot in enough quantity for it to matter much. 8k rounds will probably last me at least a decade or two, depending on how much my kids are interested in shooting.

Gunslinger1911
11-25-2018, 06:32 PM
Last Monday I saw Rem Thunderbolts for $19.95 / 500, I think CCI SD was $30.
Now if Center X was cheaper ................

thekidd76
02-06-2021, 11:23 AM
Just resurrecting this old thread amidst the new craziness. Who’s now longing for the prices were complaining about in this thread?

BigAlofPa.
02-06-2021, 12:07 PM
Thet still are 4-5 cents a round at Walmart. When they are in stock. I got some 22 wmr there last week or 2. For 12.00 bucks. Same price as always.

alamogunr
02-06-2021, 01:04 PM
I loaded up with 10K-12K rounds when they were hovering around 3¢ to 3.5¢ per round. Then the pandemic hit and I still have almost all of it. Right now I'm sitting on mucho powder and primers. Have about 700 rounds of 9mm loaded for the grandsons and starting on both 9mm, .40 & .45 for myself and sons.

I haven't checked purchased PC bullets except for the local guy that operates just down the road from me. Loading for sons and grandsons is easier when using the Black Bullets. Is anyone else using them. I have nothing to compare with but would like to know how his quality compares.

ravelode
02-10-2021, 01:25 AM
Wal-Mart had Winchester 555 boxes for $23.97 two weeks ago. I figure the new normal will be somewhere around 5¢ a round for cheaper stuff.

MrWolf
02-10-2021, 09:08 AM
Had to stop in my Walmart the other day. There were maybe four long guns. Zero ammo. Bunch of knives in counter. Reloading area had 3 or 4 rcbs dies, beam scale looked like, and a couple of misc pieces. Been like that for awhile now.

GasGuzzler
02-10-2021, 09:11 AM
Just resurrecting this old thread amidst the new craziness. Who’s now longing for the prices were complaining about in this thread?I'm not longing for those prices because I don't need to buy any.

GasGuzzler
02-10-2021, 09:13 AM
My Walmart hasn't had any ammo since about April 2020. The gun case has one Mossberg in it. They have never had reloading supplies and most don't. The Atwood's here hasn't had any ammo in so long they reconfigured the shelving and put other items out instead.

Shawlerbrook
02-10-2021, 10:07 AM
Like the credit card commercial goes here in Central NYS.....PRICELESS !!!

Idaho45guy
02-10-2021, 05:41 PM
Had to stop in my Walmart the other day. There were maybe four long guns. Zero ammo. Bunch of knives in counter. Reloading area had 3 or 4 rcbs dies, beam scale looked like, and a couple of misc pieces. Been like that for awhile now.

My Walmart was my main supply of Hornady XTP bullets, CCI primers, Unique and Titegroup powders, RCBS supplies, etc.

They have gotten rid of ALL reloading supplies over the past year, despite being one of two places for 50 miles to buy supplies in a very gun-rich environment. They are purposefully harming gun owners for political reasons.

rbuck351
02-13-2021, 12:30 PM
Unless there are more new Bidumb laws (EOs) I think new prices on bulk 22lr will be around 6 cents per round possibly 5 cents on special sales.

Cosmic_Charlie
02-13-2021, 01:43 PM
Fifteen cents a round.

koyote
02-17-2021, 11:16 PM
I can VERY occasionally find walmart having .22LR or .22WMR at standard retail prices (5 to 9 cents per round) - up until mid january that was a couple hundred rounds a week. since mid january it has been 3 boxes of 50. Scheels occsinonally has some CCI in, and it's running right at $10/50. I've seen people pay 20cpr at gun shows, recently (SAR and a northern AZ show) . I've seen it sell on GB for 30cpr. (not match grade)

I predict that *IF* none of it gets to store shelves and into the hands of people buying 100, 500, or 1000 at a time within.... 4 or 5 more months, 30cpr will be an average quality ammo, retail, cash price. (still lower at larger "buy it if you see it" big box stores, but if you want to go buy it, not drive around for 6 hours a week hunting for it, 30cpr.)

I predict that if things keep going the way they are in this country socially - not in terms of laws and EOs - the price will come down to 12-15cpr for federal blue box, maybe a few pennies less for winchester "tigerclawboombuster" or whatever they label the worst inconsistent ammo next week

If the legal situation is another round of "all talk, no action" becuase no one wants to lose an election? in a year or two 10cpr for federal blue box, 12-15cpr for the more inconsistent (but higher priced) CCI, and 17cpr for "mini-mag" (best marketing profit ever, cci!)

Duckdog
02-18-2021, 07:03 PM
As worthless as congress is, I doubt they'll touch off an inevitable civil situation, should they try to touch guns or ammo in the manner that Joe is asking them to. We've survived these before. I am guessing we will return to normal prices in the 5 cent per round range in the next year or two, when the left loses the house.

koyote
02-18-2021, 07:26 PM
I don't think it's going to go down to previous prices. I really think the 3 year price ..... it's gong to be 10% to 20% up on .22 - one thing I do expect the left to pull off is restrictive industry regulations that will drive plant closures and increased costs. And I think it will take 3 years minimum to get back down to whatever the new normal is. lots more people are learning, and stockpiling 10,000 (30 range trips with kids) rounds of .22 doesn't sound stupid to "regular people" anymore.