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Naphtali
06-21-2008, 08:36 PM
I have a friend who will be receiving from Doug Turnbull in a few weeks a USRAC/Winchester M1886 takedown rifle in 475 Turnbull. I am delaying making a decision on having mine converted until I take a look at what his 475 does.

Can 475 Turnbull brass be made by fire forming Winchester 348 WCF brass -- that is, will case be correctly dimensioned rather than shorter than it should be?
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I am aware of three methods to enhance the ability of hard cast bullets to have controlled expansion: Veral's method of casting-welding a hard base to a soft precast nose; hollow pointing; and differentially heat treating a homogenous bullet to have softer nose.

Among the methods to obtain controlled expansion from hard cast bullets, does one method stand above the others? Is there a reliable method I omitted?
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Were the USRAC/Winchester M1886 firing mechanism to be converted to non-rebounding hammer, without tang safety, and with one-piece firing pin, would hammer down on loaded chamber be safe? Is the firing pin an inertia one like the M1911 pistol?
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I've never seen a tang sight on a traditional lever action actually used. Would a tang sight for a M1886 be hit by the rear of the breech bolt during the reloading cycle? Would heavy recoil cause the tang sight to hit my spectacles?

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Who bead blasts and electroless nickels springs? The company I used to use for the service is no longer in business.

JDL
06-21-2008, 09:37 PM
You didn't say what velocity your boolits were running but, plain old wheelweights do right well down to around 1600 fps.
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Would a tang sight for a M1886 be hit by the rear of the breech bolt during the reloading cycle? Would heavy recoil cause the tang sight to hit my spectacles?
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I don't know about the bolt hitting the sight but, Elmer Keith told of an incident where a lady's eye was blinded by shooting up a high angle hill with a tang sight.
JDL

Naphtali
06-22-2008, 12:51 PM
You didn't say what velocity your boolits were running but, plain old wheelweights do right well down to around 1600 fps.
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Would a tang sight for a M1886 be hit by the rear of the breech bolt during the reloading cycle? Would heavy recoil cause the tang sight to hit my spectacles?
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I don't know about the bolt hitting the sight but, Elmer Keith told of an incident where a lady's eye was blinded by shooting up a high angle hill with a tang sight.
JDLJDL:

Regarding velocities, my goal is 440-465-grain FNGC @ 1700-1750 fps, almost certainly an LBT. Were it to feed reliably, I would prefer WFN to LFN. But I'm informed WFNs feed in lever actions is twitchy. The velocity range is a nearly perfect fit for my hunting area. It will limit me to 125 yards maximum range. And that's about as far as I can easily distinguish my target. I've been using bows and handguns. I seek "improved handgun range" because big bores and my arthritic hands are getting along less well than they should.

I think you've successfully eliminated tang sights from the query list. Not surprised . . . disappointed.