Yugo M48 Sporter Stock?

[mrbillbus]

I have checked all the usual suspects and cannot find an online source for a sporter stock for my Yugo. Classic design for iron sights and a military barrel channel.

Okay, that is not entirely true. Richards Microfit has them but their rep is pretty poor on the information super highway (I do like their "safari classic" if anyone wants to vouch for their service). Boyds carried one with the military channel but Is no longer listed.

BTW it is already buggered up so I am not messing with any valuable history.

Any suggestions?

Intermediate large ring action; a pox be upon you!

[bruce drake]

Look into the Archangel stock. It is designed to be able to be used in a standard and intermediate 98 action by reversing a recoil block and switching a locking collar on the front receiver screw. I have a Yugo 48 in one right now. I use it for shooting NRA Highpower Matches out to 600 yards with a new 6.5 Creedmoor barrel installed.
http://www.archangelmanufacturing.com/archangelaa98mauserstock
Go to Midway or Brownells to get a better price than Factory Direct.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/290366/archangel-adjustable-precision-stock-mauser-k98-synthetic-black-with-10-round-magazine
Yep...$50 cheaper
Use the money saved to buy an extra mag or two.

[mrbillbus]

That is a very interesting option. Thanks Bruce.

[map55b]

Call Boydes. I bought one from them fro a 35 Whelen I built on a Yugo. You need one for and intermediate 98 large ring.

[racepres]

I got a Boyds fairly recently!!! I love it. There is a Richards Microfit in my friends Collection...I will get a critical look at it...soon!

[tomme boy]

I had the very first stock made for the Mid sized Yugo from Richards. It took about 6 months to get. But it was a 100% drop in fit. The outside of the stock was left oversized so you can fit it yourself. I think it was in AA fancy walnut. Been a long time. Did this one in 257 Roberts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/DSC01014_edited.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommeboy/media/DSC01014_edited.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/tommeboy/DSC01013_edited.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommeboy/media/DSC01013_edited.jpg.html)

It all depends on how much work you want to put into it. If you want a true drop fit, then get a Boyd's. Call them and ask when they are running that one again.

[bruce drake]

Beautiful stock Tommeboy!

I went with utility over beauty in my purchase of the Archangel. My Yugo 48 stock was in the rough side but the barrel was immaculate and probably brand new. I put that 8x57 barrel on an Erfurt LR action I had picked up and was setting on the shelf.
I then bought a 260 Rem barrel from brownells and had the shoulder and barrel's chamber face cut back .3" by a machinist after I messed up my original chambering into 260Rem and the barrel was then re-chambered by me to 6.5CR when I put it back on the Yugo 48 receiver. Now I can load the 140 grain bullets without pushing deep past the case neck.

[map55b]

Here are some more examples.

L-R Yugo 35 Whelen in a Boyds , Siamese 45-70 in a Richards, Carcano 7.62x39 in a Boyds, Jap 38 in 38-55 in a Boyds and a Mauser 93 in 35 Rem
Singe pictures is of a Mex 98 in 22-250 in a Richards

This give you a good sample of the laminates and solids from both.

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r566/map55b1/IMG_4001_zps8s1g7tyh.jpg
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http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r566/map55b1/Mex%202_zpsfby4ivmw.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r566/map55b1/199562e3-af40-4811-a24b-ad5649c886af_zpsew2cybuc.jpg

[racepres]

I put that 8x57 barrel on an Erfurt LR action I had picked up and was setting on the shelf.
From an M48??
What did you do about the "Safety Breach", and the Extractor Cutout??? Just Ignore it?
When I put a barrel onto an M48 I do not Do that "stuff"...But, I have been hesitant about putting the M48 barrels onto other large rings!!!

[LAGS]

I have two sporter stocks that I have not put on a rifle yet for the Mauser Mid Length action.
One is a Pre Finished from Boyd's and the other an Unfinished from Brownells..
I had purchased two Finished 98 Long action stocks from Boyds a few years back to build a pair of 35 whelens.
I did not like the shape or finish of the stock, not that it was Bad, but just not to my liking for the rifles I was building.
So I stripped one down and refinished it after reshaping it.
I am trying to post pictures of them side by side, and let you be the judge .
But I am not the best or have the best computer.

[LAGS]

The top one is the Boyds Pre Finished.
The bottom is the Pre Finished stock, Re Shaped and Re Finished

[tomme boy]

From an M48??
What did you do about the "Safety Breach", and the Extractor Cutout??? Just Ignore it?

On the 3 different ones I did I just thinned the extractor.

[bruce drake]

I just thinned the extractor as well. Doesn't take much off the front of the extractor for it to operate.

Bruce

[mrbillbus]

Thanks for all the input. Good stuff!

[racepres]

On the 3 different ones I did I just thinned the extractor.


I just thinned the extractor as well. Doesn't take much off the front of the extractor for it to operate.

Bruce
Well...I understand that ...but, I was going to go ahead and take a cut off the face of the barrel...certainly not enough to remove all of the extractor Groove. But, I am concerned for no reason apparently..

[seaboltm]

I have bought Richard's Microfit stocks before, one for a Yugo 48. I was pleased. Yugo takes work to fit as I recall as it is advertised as 95% fit. The press fit I just received for a regular 98 took minutes to fit. They do take a long time to ship. Think 6 months.

[LAGS]

I build most of my Yugo stocks from Blanks, and find them no different to do than a standard 98 rifle to inlet shape or bed.
I have one in the shop right now in Africian Mahogony I need to get back to.
They are probably running them Mass Produced on a Duplicator, and have to reset up to only do a few stocks for the mid length action.

[tomme boy]

The one thing I did not like about the 48 Yugos was the nubs are not there like a 98 has and it would drop the case on extraction. The regular 98 those nubs are longer and the case is set deeper in the bolthead than the 48 series are. When you pulled the barrel on the 48 you have a sectioned ring on the face of the barrel. A 98 it is not there and that is the distance the bolthead surrounds the case head more on a 98 as the barrel face is flat.

If that makes sense?

Once you get it headspaced without the extractor, Mark the barrel with a scribe on the right side and that will be your safety cut. On the amount I am not sure.

[joatmon]

map55b Do you miss the little extra length when loading for that Whelen, I have a 35 Whelen barrel but was holding out for a full length 98 action.
Thanks Aaron

[LAGS]

I have thought about doing a Yugo in .35 Whelen.
But the magazine box it too short for the bullets I load, and the stroke of the bolt is right at the minimum for the standard Whelen cartridge.
So I built one on a Czech 98 action, and one on a 1909 Argie
But I made one in 25-06 and it works great.
But when I tried to take one out to a 25-06 Improved, I gained Nothing, as I could not use the longer Heavier bullets that I wanted to fire out of it, thus being the reason I went to the Improved over the standard 25-06.
The magazine box can be lengthened as you do on the longer 98 action for 30-06.
But you get into modifying the feed ramp to get the cartridge to be at the correct angle to feed.

[LAGS]

The Mauser Small ring stock can be made to fit the Yugo Action.
I did one in 257 Roberts.
But the stock at the recoil lug was too thin for my liking for larger calibers like a .308 on up.
It took a lot of inletting and fitting, but can be done as the action screws are the same spacing

[map55b]

Its a non issue for me Joatmon. I haven't found a bullet that is too long to use. The difference in max length between the 8x57 and the 35 Whelen is ~.11" Not a big deal in my opinion.

[racepres]

There is a seller on the auction site that goes by Beever156
It seems his customers are happy, and if he lists a Stock...He has it.
Many of the "usual suspects" do Not have everything In Stock!!!

No, I have Not bought from this Person, Just an Observation...If I was Wanting one Now...I would see if he had one!!!

[mrbillbus]

There is a seller on the auction site that goes by Beever156
It seems his customers are happy, and if he lists a Stock...He has it.
Many of the "usual suspects" do Not have everything In Stock!!!

No, I have Not bought from this Person, Just an Observation...If I was Wanting one Now...I would see if he had one!!!

Do you have a link to the auction?

Oh, THAT auction site. Nevermind.

[LAGS]

This isnt a Sporting stock for the Yugo.
It is the original stock that I shaved down and laminated wood to it and reshaped it into a tactical stock.
I rebarreled it in a Target heavy barrel in .308.
Again, I was playing with a stock design to use as a pattern to use on a Stock Duplicator.
The other one is just a standard Yugo that I sporterized the stock for a cheap Deer rifle.

[mrbillbus]

Thanks LAGS, the last one with the original ock whittled down may be the route I take.

[LAGS]

The Yugo sporter stock has the butt of the stock reshaped to more of the style to fit a standard recoil pad design, from the Fat Bottom Buttplate found on Mausers.
The grip is reshaped and a little more defined than the Mauser grip.
This one has a Maple nose cap made out of 3/4" maple blocks glued together to make a solid block.
Or you can spring for a Block of Ebony from Midway or Brownells to do a dark nosecap.
The cleaning rod hole in the stock was used to Dowel the Nose cap in place for a little extra strength.
I also used a Piece of wood from the wront of the stock that I cut off, to make a fillet Inlay for the military sling swivel inlet in the bottom of the buttstock.
Matched Pretty good

[LAGS]

Here is a picture of the other side of the stock, and a picture of a Yugo 24/47 that I shortened the barrel to 19.5" , moved the Bayonet mount back, and turned it into something similar to the Cavalry Carbine they did produce in limited numbers for Horse mounted troops, or Mountian Troops.
They did an Engineers carbine too in the Mausers.
It was the 19.5" barrel, but did not have a Bayonet attachment.
I guess the troops in the rear were not expected to be in a Bayonet Charge.

[Multigunner]

If you want to add a cheek piece with roll over comb you might try something that I've done twice before. obtain some of the heaviest grade cowhide you can find, I forget the weight (12 0r 14 oz I think) but the piece I used is around 1/4-5/16" thick, cut to the desired shape and submerge in scalding hot water till entirely soaked and the water turns brown, repeat if necessary. Let the leather mostly dry and wrap it around a tube made of rolled up newspaper or magazines with the cheek piece part left flat and let it dry for a day or two. When removed from the tube it should fit fairly close as is but you might have to do some further shaping. You can nail another long slim piece to the comb and trim to raise the roll over if necessary to position the eye better for a scope. When shaped to fit and bone dry spray paint both sides, in a color that is close to that of the finished wood or in a contrasting color if you like, till the paint soaks deep into the leather and stiffens it. It can then be glued down and the edges pinned down tight with small nails if need be. I keep one of these unmounted so I can slip it onto several different stocks , the leather is stiff enough that it grips the stock fairly tightly by itself and double sided tape will prevent it shifting under light recoil but it can be removed at any time for use on other rifles. I use it on my .22s when using a scope and remove it when using iron sights. I've used that one for over ten years and it shows no sign of losing its shape.

I suppose a clear finish applied the way I've used spray paint might work just as well and preserve the look of the leather.

These could be stitched or riveted to a lace on leather sleeve.

I can draw or cut out a pattern if you like.

[TNsailorman]

Lags, I really like the looks of that 24/47 "carbine". I have thought of doing that to one of my 24/47's in the past but was discouraged by the idea of how hard it would be to refit the bayonet after the shortening process. The stock and basic hardware would be little problem to get correct but then there is the bayonet. How did you determine the length of set back and angle to get the bayonet to fit properly? Thanks, james

[LAGS]

@ TNsailorman.
Setting back the bayonet lug was easy for me.
I put the lug on the bayonet, then layed it next to the barrel installed in the stock with the barrel sticking out of the Bayonet ring the distance I wanted.
Then I marked the back of the bayonet lug on the stock for the length of the inletting of the forstock.
Then the rest was a matter of reshaping the forstock tip to fit into the bayonet lug.
THEN, once the bayonet lug is installed, You then shape the rest of the stock down too it,and fit the bands and retainer spring, ( that was modified and shortend also )

[nekshot]

Nice work Lags. I have an exceptional nice (metal) of a vz-24 and I sanded the club stock into a more user friendly to me at least and it still retains its military look and maybe I should shorten the barrel as you have done.

[LAGS]

I can't remember what I had to do when I shortened the barrel to get the front sight to fit.
I am pretty sure on that one I had to reduce the diameter the last inch or so for the sight to go on and the barrel to fit inside the ring on the bayonet.
I remember Filing it to a smaller Diameter since I don't have a Lathe any more.
The bolt handle is also turned down like a K98.
It isn't the usual , heat it up and bend it over curved to clear the stock.
I wanted it to look as much like an Original as I could.

[LAGS]

BTW
I have done a VZ- 24 in the Carbine Version.
But I think that one was done as the Engineers Carbine with no bayonet since I didn't have a Correct bayonet to fit that rifle at the time.
The VZ-24 bayonet is different on the blade than the K98 blade.
The top edge of the VZ bayonet is the sharp side.
I just took the bayonet Lug , and cut off the Rail that slides into the back of the bayonet and kept the front band the same.
Made a nice nose cap

[LAGS]

I come across a lot of old Mausers that the last 2" of the barrel is bad but the rest of the bore is good.
Shortening it to a Carbine makes more sence and makes it more Unique than just doing a run of the mill Bubba'ed Sporter that you see everywhere.

[TNsailorman]

Thanks for the info Lags. Your idea is simply and straight forward. I may just try it out as a project. james

[LAGS]

@TN sailor man
Just decide on the length of the barrel and cut it off then fit the front sight.
I reduced the diameter by just filing 4 flats on the barrel 90 degrees from each other , and then another 4 flats between each of those.
Then finished off with flats on the points between those flats.
Then it can be made round with little effort