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tsubaki
11-29-2016, 08:15 PM
These were from a 3" S&W 65-6 pushed with 10.0gr of Blue Dot and Federal 200 primers.
The powder coated and sized .358 boolits were from an unknown alloy with a BHN 11.
A Lee TL358-158-SWC mold, actual boolit weight was 160gr.
They were retrieved from a course sand/clay media fired from 30 feet away.
Dang chronograph refused to cooperate at all that day so best guess might be close to 1250fps.
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tsubaki
11-29-2016, 08:23 PM
Just for comparison, some 35750 (158gr) XTP's with 11.5gr of Blue Dot behind them.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w159/tsubaki3/2016-11-28%2014.00.19_zpsnusp1bqy.jpg
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Thumbcocker
11-29-2016, 08:53 PM
Interesting.
runfiverun
11-29-2016, 10:32 PM
dang that dirt is tough on them.
I find quite a few hollow-point bullets in our dirt that looks like I could re-shoot them.
unless they hit a rock.
tsubaki
12-13-2016, 09:13 AM
I finally got around to test for the velocity again.
Average from the same revolver was 1175fps.
Had a high of 1212fps and a low of 1146fps. I threw those out the window.
tsubaki
12-13-2016, 09:19 AM
Oh, and the XTP's averaged 1286fps.
Had a high of 1317fps and a low of 1245fps. Threw those out the window too!
Maybe one day I'll put a pin gauge to the cylinders and see if that has anything to do with it.
Thanks for the write up. The TL358-158 is the first bullet I ever cast and I use a lot of them having great results with both PC and 45/45/10.
Walter Laich
12-13-2016, 01:09 PM
I'm amazed that one looked just like a dime after it was fired. Keep that one--will make a great story
454PB
12-13-2016, 01:39 PM
I use Bluedot in .357, but almost always with cast. Your load for the 158 XTP seems a little hot. Alliant recommends a maximum load of 10.2 grains of Bluedot with a 158 grain jacketed.
RogerDat
12-13-2016, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the write up. The TL358-158 is the first bullet I ever cast and I use a lot of them having great results with both PC and 45/45/10.
Same here, makes a good plinking round, can be pushed if PC'd and does fine with tumble lube. Works well over a pretty broad range of loads from mouse fart at ~750 fps to let's make a dime out them at ~1200 fps. I'm just getting some plain base pop can gas checks on a few of those SWC to try that combination out, .357 probably pushed by some 2400 or maybe H110. Be nice if I could collect them afterwards.
tsubaki
12-13-2016, 03:04 PM
Your load for the 158 XTP seems a little hot. Alliant recommends a maximum load of 10.2 grains of Bluedot with a 158 grain jacketed.
Published data using Blue Dot and 158gr jacketed is all over the place.
Lyman 46th Edition lists 11.9gr as their max at 1319fps from a 4" barrel.
Speer #11 lists 13.0gr as their max at 1349fps from a 6" barrel.
Sierra Edition V lists 12.6gr as their max at 1250fps from a 6" barrel.
tsubaki
12-13-2016, 03:25 PM
Be nice if I could collet them afterwards.
A 13 gallon kitchen trash can filled with sand will do it.
I have yet to penetrate more than 10" with a 262gr cast .452 at 1130fps or a 243gr cast .430 at 1410fps.
RogerDat
12-13-2016, 07:41 PM
A 13 gallon kitchen trash can filled with sand will do it.
I have yet to penetrate more than 10" with a 262gr cast .452 at 1130fps or a 243gr cast .430 at 1410fps.
Good to know. Seems simple enough.
Eddie17
12-13-2016, 08:36 PM
I've recovered my PC'd boolits from a sand, gravel berm with similar results. Still have not found the dime shaped one though! :kidding:
wv109323
12-13-2016, 10:15 PM
That dime from a bullet looks good enough to spend. Let's see 3.2 cents for a primer, 1.5 cents for powder and 3.0 cents for the boolit. The math works out that we could make money shooting.
All kidding aside some good info was provided. Thanks
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