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paul h
11-29-2016, 03:40 PM
I'm looking for a 250 gr WFN or similar profile that will feed and chamber in the 45 acp/super. Any molds that you have used that fit the bill? I'd prefer something in at least a 4 cavity.

I've been debating a 10mm, but since I'm already set up for 45 acp, it seems like I'd be better off with a 45 super. 250 gr @ 1000 fps is my goal.

Tackleberry41
11-29-2016, 06:09 PM
I bought the NOE 454-255-SWC RG mold. With the hollow point pins comes out right about 230gr. It works in all my 45 pistols. Only one in semi auto, but did not have any feed issues with it in a 1911. Have run it in my rossi 92, they get a boost with the barrel so more FPS then 1000. All my guns seem to like it, be it ACP or colt.

475AR
11-29-2016, 08:37 PM
I went with an LBT lfn, I use it in 45 acp and 45 win mag, I went with 280gr and it has fed 100% in everything I have shot them in and they are accurate as well. I have not taken any hogs with it yet but it should do fine.

Boogieman
11-30-2016, 08:44 PM
!'ve used the Lyman #454190 sized .452 in my 1911 Colt. It's a RNFP 250gr.

Groo
11-30-2016, 08:58 PM
Groo here
May we ask , Why a 250gr on a 45acp?
Is this a project or for a specific task?

paul h
11-30-2016, 10:40 PM
To me a 250 gr 45 @ 1000 fps makes it an honest big game round, and that's achievable with a 45 super.

DougGuy
11-30-2016, 10:52 PM
I have been working with the 250gr LBT WFN boolits in 45 Schofield, they should work in 45 ACP brass but you would need the barrel throated for them to plunk and feed reliably. Any 250gr boolit in 45 ACP brass will have quite a bit of boolit sitting proud of the case, and would need a throated barrel for best results.

Also, why 45 Super, would you not be better off with the harder hitting 460 Rowland if you are using the 45 to hunt with?

These are my favorite 250gr boolits, LBT 250gr WFN-PB, LBT 250gr WFN-GC:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/DougGuy/Reloading/LBT250WFN_zpsboj28obo.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/DougGuy/media/Reloading/LBT250WFN_zpsboj28obo.jpg.html)

This is a Kahr barrel with polygonal rifling that has been throated and will gladly plunk all the dummies pictured below, note the Lee C452-200-RF (3rd from left) is very similar to what you will have with a 250gr WFN or LFN boolit in 45 ACP brass, and it will need considerable freebore in the throat to plunk and feed reliably.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/DougGuy/Cylinder%20Services/Kahr%20P45%20polygonal/DSC04932%20Custom_zpsx2zh6d8z.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/DougGuy/media/Cylinder%20Services/Kahr%20P45%20polygonal/DSC04932%20Custom_zpsx2zh6d8z.jpg.html)

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/DougGuy/Cylinder%20Services/Kahr%20P45%20polygonal/DSC04944%20Custom_zpslhvxyabt.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/DougGuy/media/Cylinder%20Services/Kahr%20P45%20polygonal/DSC04944%20Custom_zpslhvxyabt.jpg.html)

Tackleberry41
12-01-2016, 09:33 AM
One reason to use the 45 super over the Rowland is you dont need a special set up to run super. Rowland requires a barrel chambered in it, with the heavy compensator. Super will run in an ACP chamber and still run ACP when you want, all you need to do is swap out the spring. Super does offer a considerable boost over ACP. I get 1100fps w 225gr FTX out of my blackhawk using super data.

ole 5 hole group
12-01-2016, 10:42 AM
Running a 250/255 cast bullet at 950 to 1,000fps is on the low-end of the 45ACP Super. I just fitted an oversized FPS, added a buffer and run a Wolf 18.5# recoil spring and I feel I'm good to go from 185 grade wadcutter target loads to 265 grain cast running at 950fps. I use Starline 45 ACP+P cases for these loads. When I go to 1,000fps and over with the heavies, then I'll move up to the 45ACP Starline Super case for peace of mind and either a 20 or 22 pound Wolf recoil spring.

Buffalo Bore sells the 255 grain cast loads that run right at 950fps in 5" barrels.

For hunting loads, the 250 to 265 grain cast loads are great, but so are the jacketed bonded 230 grain bullets, such as the Gold Dot. In my 1911's I find the 230 grain bonded bullet is more accurate at 900 to 925 fps than the heavies - but for hunting purposes, the difference isn't significant until you get over 75 yards or so. For deer or black bear the 230 grain bonded will punch 2 holes, unless you try punching through the front shoulders.

That group is fairly typical but always under an inch at 25 yards rested. My 1911 isn't typical, as it's a Baer PII with the 1.5" option, so your mileage may vary some.

Groo
12-01-2016, 01:09 PM
Groo here
Reserch CFE Pistol.
The 200gr cast SWC loading.
Also the 45-08,,, used in Canada in 1911's for bear defense.
Guide tested and approved.

paul h
12-01-2016, 02:59 PM
200 gr is the opposite direction of where I want to go. I already have 200 and 230 gr molds. Maybe I'll just run a .452" reamer into my Lee 230 gr tl mold to make it a powder coat only mold, see what the weight ends up at and call it good.