327 Federal Levergun

[Ramjet-SS]

Henry has answered the call!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/29/henrys-new-magnum-rifles/

[pietro]

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THAT ought to satisfy many a levergunner ! . [smilie=1:


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[shoot-n-lead]

Already posted...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?321474-New-Lipsey-s-Henry-327-Federal-Magnum-!&p=3858497#post3858497

[Ramjet-SS]

Well it is posted again !

[FergusonTO35]

If it will cycle .32 S&W Long also I might just have to get one.

[fecmech]

The downside for me is the weight, Henry pistol cal. levers are about a pound heavier than 92's and 94's. Love their .22 Lever's.

[Ramjet-SS]

They are heavier but it's ok with me they hold well and it's easier for me to loose a few lbs anyways. :drinks:

[kingstrider]

If it will reliably feed and shoot .32 H&R Magnums then I might be interested. I have a Ruger Single Six and a SP101 3" in that caliber and it would be cool to have something else to share ammo with. Shooting .327 magnum would be a nice perk but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me jump.

[FergusonTO35]

I prefer the extra weight of a Henry. Keeps me on target and soaks up recoil better.

[dragon813gt]

There will be practically no recoil. There is barely any w/ an 1894C Marlin. I'm sure the Henry is significantly heavier and the 327 has less recoil to start.

[Ramjet-SS]

120 grain HP from Mihec over a goodly dose of WW296 should be a great little load in this Levergun. No recoil means accurate shooting and quick follow up shots. I will have one of these when they come out.

[quail4jake]

Is this a .32-20 on steroids?

[mcdaniel.mac]

Is this a .32-20 on steroids?
More akin to .32 HR Maximum or a modernized .32-20, as I don't believe it outperforms the 32-20 in any appreciable capacity.

[Bzcraig]

This rifle does pique my curiousity but I don't need another caliber to load for. Oh wait.......dang! I've said that before!

[dragon813gt]

Is this a .32-20 on steroids?

It was brought out to equal 357 Magnum performance w/ 125 grain bullets in a smaller frame handgun. Gives you more capacity and a lot less recoil. In a rifle it won't equal 32-20. But the advantage would be that it's a straight wall case. I really like it in revolvers which is why I have four of them.

[Fergie]

If it wasn't so late, I'd be calling my LGS right now.

Heck, they may have one ordered for me already!

[Ramjet-SS]

It would be nice if Henry would also offer this in that little single shot rifle they are bringing to the market.

[rintinglen]

Dragon, I think you have missed the boat. The 32-20, Unless you load it up to 9mm+p pressures cannot excel the .327 at 42000 psi. The 327 can launch a 100 grain boolit at 1500 fps from a 7.5 inch Revolver--from a 20 inch barrel, it should easily clear 2000 fps. Not much published data from reputable sources that will allow the 32-20 to run in that race.

[dragon813gt]

To be honest I never ran the numbers for the 32-20 because I don't have one.

Quickload has a 100 grain XTP over a 100% charge of H110 at 1983 FPS @ 31,600 psi. I think this is another screwy pressure reading w/ a straight wall case. You can't get anymore powder into the case. And H110 is what's going to give you the most velocity.

32-20 w/ the same bullet is 2094 FPS @ 29,946 PSI w/ a 15.5 grain charge. AA#9 is in the same area.

I need to go chrono my loads to see how close they match Quickload's predictions. It screws up straight wall cases so I don't trust it. The 327 should surpass the 32-20's performance but at a lot higher PSI. The 32-20 is also more efficient on powder in both quantity and percentage burned.

Maybe I will buy this Henry as a range toy and test bed.

[JSnover]

This is great! The revolver limited a handloaders options, a lever gun for .327 FM is a lot more interesting.

[frkelly74]

Wasn't there a Marlin lever rifle in 30 Carbine back in the 60's?

[Greg S]

From what I've read, the 32-20 can be pushed alittle harder in a strong action but, the brass is it's weekness. The 327 brass is thicker and of straight wall design so it'll have longevity. I think the 32-20 shines alittle better on the heavier bullets (120 +).

This will save me converting a Rossi 92 action as I know I can probably do it for about 8-9 bills, the problem is it gets expensive trying to find the time to put it all together. It would have been a fun learning experiance though.

[northmn]

Surprised to see it but good for those that want one. I have a 32-20 and don't much care whether the 327 would "do better" or not. I have found my most practical load is the 120 grain Lee bullet at about 1400 + or - fps. If I want more I grab a 30-30. 32-20 is a good little opportunity rifle off the tractor or 4 wheeler.
The Marlin 62 was a clip fed lever with a stock reminiscent of the 88 Winchester and made in 30 carbine and I think 256. Guy that had one said it was enjoyable but kind of an orphan. Too big for small game and too small for deer. The 30 carbine was illegal for deer in MN for many years and was specifically named. Of the military cartridges we have seen the 30 carbine has been the biggest flop on the civilian market.
Like my 32-20 but these cartridges need to be hand loaded to get the most out of them. I was given two boxes of Remington lead factory loads that did not shoot for sour owl droppings. Good for cases though. I think one would find hand loading best for the 327. It would likely feed the 32 mags but I would prefer to load the 327 down as shorter cases in a rifle chamber may not be ideal. I prefer to do that with the 357 and not shoot too many 38 special in it.

DEP

[farmbif]

Henry's Anthony Imperato just sent me an email stating that "We will have Henry Big Boys in both the hardened brass and steel, in both rifle and carbine, in 327 by Spring 2017. Sign up for our 2017 catalog and opt in for our occasional emails and we will keep you posted.
Sincerely,
Anthony Imperato
President
Henry Repeating Arms"
I sent him an email two days ago about the 41 mag I got last month, Asked if they may be able to polish steel a bit more before bluing and stated that if the henry steel were available in 327 mag I would buy one. Can't wait to shoot the 327 out of a 20" barrel. This gives me plenty of time to get brass, dies and maybe a custom mold from Accurate. I am open to suggestions for molds. I guess the cat's meow would be a .329 RNFP by Miha with his hollow point options

[dragon813gt]

Let me know how that .329 bullet works out in your 327 Federal :beer:

[Jeff Michel]

Has anyone taken delivery of one of these yet?

[quilbilly]

From what I've read, the 32-20 can be pushed alittle harder in a strong action but, the brass is it's weekness. The 327 brass is thicker and of straight wall design so it'll have longevity. I think the 32-20 shines alittle better on the heavier bullets (120 +).

This will save me converting a Rossi 92 action as I know I can probably do it for about 8-9 bills, the problem is it gets expensive trying to find the time to put it all together. It would have been a fun learning experiance though.
Absolutely! In a modern action the 32-20 does very well with boolits up to 130 gr. from my experience with my Contender. I have pushed my 32/20 as high as 1700 with 120's out of my 10" barrel but never saw the need so pulled it back to 1350-1400 fps.

[JSH]

The 32-20/30-20 needs Blackhawk only or three different loads such as the 45-70 has.
I have used 100-220 grain bullets out of my TC with good success, both super and sub sonic. It is closer to the 30x221 than the 327 as it will out do the 327 by a good amount because of case capacity.
In my Ruger buckeye 32-20/32 mag gun using the 32-20 cylinder I get a custom 140 wound up to 1400 fps and change. The 32-20 in a modern gun, is what the 327 wants to be.
There is a fair bit of data out there for +P+ type loads, Paco Kelly and Brian Pearce just to name a couple.

[Jack Stanley]

Wasn't there a Marlin lever rifle in 30 Carbine back in the 60's?

It was called the "Levermatic" and I think it was the model 57 . Not sure but the .256 Winchester mag. may have been chambered in the same rifle .

Jack

[MarkP]

Wasn't there a Marlin lever rifle in 30 Carbine back in the 60's?

M 62 kind of looked like a Win 88 or the Ruger 96

[trapper9260]

I wonder who else will make a lever for the 327 next? Maybe Rossi.