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dubber123
11-21-2016, 04:34 PM
I have a T/C .32 I would like to tinker with, I have patches, RBs, and a pound of Swiss 3f. What I do not have is a powder measure. Can anyone tell me of a cartridge case, or LEE powder scoop that I could use for a temporary measure that will hold 20-25 grains of 3F? Thank you, much appreciated.

koger
11-21-2016, 05:59 PM
Take a regular measure, fill to the amount you want, take a piece of deer antler and drill/grind it out, in a funnel shape, till it holds the amount desired! Then drill a hole in the bottom solid for a lanyard, to hang from your possible bag or around your neck. I filed/sanded a small groove in the lip to make the powder pour easily.

Maven
11-21-2016, 06:01 PM
dubber123, This was shamelessly copied and pasted from the Traditional Muzzleloading Association site:

Not sure where I got it as its been hanging out on my computer for awhile.
The bottleneck cases like the .30-30 and .30-06 must have the smaller mouth diameter and the taper removed leaving a straight walled case.

Cartridge Grains
.22 LR = 5
.320 ACP = 7
.380 ACP = 10
.30 cal Carbine = 20
.38 Special = 23
.357 Mag = 27
.45 Auto = 26
.44 Colt = 35
.45 Colt = 41
.38-40 = 40
.30-30 = 42
.30-06 = 70
.45-70 = 83


Btw, I'd take some of those volumes with a grain of salt as there's no way you can get 83gr. FFFg or FFg in a .45-70 case.

dubber123
11-21-2016, 06:29 PM
dubber123, This was shamelessly copied and pasted from the Traditional Muzzleloading Association site:

Not sure where I got it as its been hanging out on my computer for awhile.
The bottleneck cases like the .30-30 and .30-06 must have the smaller mouth diameter and the taper removed leaving a straight walled case.

Cartridge Grains
.22 LR = 5
.320 ACP = 7
.380 ACP = 10
.30 cal Carbine = 20
.38 Special = 23
.357 Mag = 27
.45 Auto = 26
.44 Colt = 35
.45 Colt = 41
.38-40 = 40
.30-30 = 42
.30-06 = 70
.45-70 = 83


Btw, I'd take some of those volumes with a grain of salt as there's no way you can get 83gr. FFFg or FFg in a .45-70 case.

Excellent! Thank you very much, looks like a 30 Carbine or 38 Spl will get me in the ballpark. I like the idea of the antler measure also, and I may just do that once I dial in a load.

enfield
11-21-2016, 07:43 PM
I use a 38 special case for my .32

rfd
11-21-2016, 08:24 PM
for working up a load, a brass dynamic measure to 120 grains in 5 grain increments is SO nice to have.

dubber123
11-22-2016, 07:40 AM
for working up a load, a brass dynamic measure to 120 grains in 5 grain increments is SO nice to have.

I should pick one up, my current one starts at 60 grains, and I don't think the old Cherokee would appreciate that much :)

richhodg66
11-22-2016, 08:14 AM
One of the best things I ever bought when I started reloading is one of the Lee powder scoop sets that has the little slide rule thing for figuring out which scoop throws. I think it cost seven bucks new and I have found all sorts of uses for it over the years. I don't think you could go wrong buying one and spending some time tinkering with it to see what works in your rifle.

Lead Fred
11-22-2016, 10:09 AM
Who the heck uses 83gr in a 45/70. You must be using some real girlie boolits.

38 Special case is a good place to start, you can always cut it down if it holds to much.
Install a spent prime backwards, or JP weld the primer hole shut.

OverMax
11-22-2016, 10:20 AM
I use a pre measured Charger/s for my big bores 45 & 54 cals which I bought from Track of the wolf. (Primarily used in the woods when hunting.) Although pre-set to a measured charging my store bought Charger/s still required a bit of hand filing some to accommodate my rifles most accurate preferred charging of 2-FFG. So it matters not what you use for a Charger just so long as it able to be hand trimmed to measure your rifles preferred charging. (For either conical/ ball intended use.)
As far as a modern cartridge case. Something that throws 30-50grs that can be trimmed for a in-between charge would work good for P/Ball or Maxi. I would try measuring a 30-30 brass first. Tapered neck (what ever is left after its trimming) would act as a bore funnel and too the cartridge neck is probably large enough to accept a horns pouring spout. But to check and fine tune a Charges accuracy you need to have a typical B/P Volume slide measurer for that purpose.

Wayne Smith
11-22-2016, 11:17 AM
No, for real black you need a scale. Always check your volume measure with a scale.

John Boy
11-22-2016, 11:40 AM
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/81/1/POWDER-CAP-B
and
http://www.fieldandstreamshop.com/p/thompson-center-arms-u-view-powder-measure/15tcaupwdrmsrvwxxgua?camp=CSE:GooglePLA:15TCAUPWDR MSRVWXXGUA:10469559-FNS:Black+Powder
or
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/70/1/SP-025
and
Pick one:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/69/1

aephilli822
11-23-2016, 05:16 PM
http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/Dippers.pdf

3F powder a 1.3 dipper = 20.7 grains

dubber123
11-23-2016, 11:58 PM
http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/Dippers.pdf

3F powder a 1.3 dipper = 20.7 grains

Thats a handy chart, thanks :) Now I just have to remember where my dipper kit is.

Nobade
11-24-2016, 09:30 PM
Who the heck uses 83gr in a 45/70. You must be using some real girlie boolits.

38 Special case is a good place to start, you can always cut it down if it holds to much.
Install a spent prime backwards, or JP weld the primer hole shut.

I use 80gr. in my 45-70 behind 535gr. bullets. Of course they are paper patched and only in the case about .100".

I agree, a 38 spl case works for both of my 32 cal rifles. A 9mm case makes a good close range squirrel load, about like a 22LR velocity wise.

-Nobade

Squeeze
11-24-2016, 09:50 PM
a .32 TC with its 30 twist is accurate with anything from 10-35 grains. ( maybe more, but thats all ive tried, I have 3) Most every other .32 is 48 twist, and much more finicky. Ive found most 48 twist settle in about 22 grains in .32 cal