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wv109323
11-17-2016, 12:31 AM
Does the WFT bevel the inside and outside of the case mouth or just trim?

Artful
11-17-2016, 01:02 AM
Not the one I tried, just trimmed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcwkT6tI3s

these do
http://www.eztrimit.com/

http://www.giraudtool.com/Tri%20Way%20Trimmer.htm



https://squibloads.wordpress.com/reloading/what-is-the-best-case-trimmer/

http://www.sinclairintl.com/GunTech/Choosing-A-Case-Trimmer-/detail.htm?lid=16138

Dryball
11-17-2016, 01:07 AM
There could be more but I've only ever seen the Lyman "head" that does all 3 at once

blueeyephil
11-17-2016, 01:18 AM
I have the eztrimit 2. It can do all three. I tried that, but it's hard to get the blade adjusted correctly. Then it has some vibration because of the weight of the cutter as it circles the case. I ended up buying their flat trimmer to go in it. So now it just trims. It does a great job at that.

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Guardian
11-17-2016, 12:56 PM
I tried everything I could think of to avoid buying a Giraud....then just bought one when I realized none of them worked as well as I'd hoped. The Giraud is a very nice tool, though expensive.

The WFT does not chamfer/debur. It's just a flat cut using an endmill bit.

If you haven't used a trimmer that indexes off the shoulder, be aware that you may note inconsistent case lengths by several thousandths. This is most likely due to the expander in the sizing die pulling the neck outwards due to friction/lack of lubrication. It was most obvious for me on annealed brass. If it bothers you, it's easily resolved. My solution was to remove the expander from the sizing die and use a Lyman M die as a separate step. A friend was able to resolve the issue with his brass with more attention to lubrication of the expander and/or case neck, but I think the effectiveness may depend on the shape of the expander in your die. Bushing sizing dies might be another solution, but I haven't tried it.

Smoke4320
11-17-2016, 01:55 PM
Giraud is top of the line and well worth every penny if you trim a lot

ole 5 hole group
11-18-2016, 06:59 PM
Any trimmer that goes off the case shoulder will trim +/- a couple thousandths, so if you want to be spot-on with every case - none will be to your satisfaction.

I purchased the WFT a couple years back and thought it would be spot-on. WRONG.

A couple thousandths probably won't effect accuracy to my knowledge but it does affect my brain cells, so it's hanging in a plastic bag over my work bench, as a reminder that some things in life are just meant to be slow for some people like me.;)

B. Lumpkin
11-18-2016, 07:06 PM
In order for the trimmers that index off the shoulder to trim consistently, you have to sort your sized brass with a gauge. Do that, and trim by lots...a real pain in the buttocks. Additionally, neck wall thickness variation will cause the 3 in one trimmers to deburr and chamber more of one side than the other. You really have to match prep and sort your brass to have high consistency with a trimmer that indexes off the shoulder.

I do not use case trimmers that index off the shoulder.

Electric88
11-18-2016, 07:08 PM
I like my WFT2. Does what I need it to.

Drew P
11-24-2016, 01:01 AM
I've read talk about the importance of the trimmed brass precision above the shoulder being more important than the overall height of the brass anyway, so in that regard trimming off the shoulder is more accurate despite giving inconsistencies on OaL.

i have used trim-it and wft and I prefer the trimit but mainly for the economy of multiple calibers. They are both wonderful tools.

osteodoc08
11-24-2016, 01:20 AM
For me, anything that needs precision gets trimmed on my Lyman mini lathe trimmer by hand.

My blasting ammo gets the WFT treatment. So all my AR ammo
be it 223/556, 308, or for my Garand in 30-06 gets trimmed with the WFT. Works well enough for that.