TC Black Mountain Magnum

[54bore]

Anyone have one of these? Info on them?

[bubba.50]

I had one a few years back. never did figger out what made it a "Magnum" 'cause in any way that I could tell, except for the stamp on top of the barrel, it was exactly the same as a New Englander.

[54bore]

I had one a few years back. never did figger out what made it a "Magnum" 'cause in any way that I could tell, except for the stamp on top of the barrel, it was exactly the same as a New Englander.


Seems like i read that the .50 had a 1:28 twist, and the .54 was a 1:36 twist? Any truth to that? If thats the case i would like to find one in .54 Cal

[54bore]

Bubba.50 what caliber was yours? How did it shoot?

[Harleysboss]

I had one in 50 cal. Had the plastic stock. 1-28 with the QLA barrel. I think the magnum part comes from being able to shoot 150 grn charges. (I Think) . If the 54 really has a 1-36 twist that would be right in the wheel house for shooting a reasonable weight in paper patch. The stock is the same as the new englander. Not sure why I sold it..maybe the plastic stock.

[mooman76]

I had one in 50 cal. Had the plastic stock. 1-28 with the QLA barrel. I think the magnum part comes from being able to shoot 150 grn charges. (I Think) . If the 54 really has a 1-36 twist that would be right in the wheel house for shooting a reasonable weight in paper patch. The stock is the same as the new englander. Not sure why I sold it..maybe the plastic stock.

My thoughts also. Before the so called magnums came out most the inlines were rated to 100gr. and the newer ones were rated to 150gr so at the time the non-magnums were getting clearances because everyone wanted the magnums. I p/u a nonmag on clearance for real cheap otherwise I probably never would have gotten an inline. Just wanted to see what all the hoopla was all about. Still don't see it, for myself anyway.

[bubba.50]

Bubba.50 what caliber was yours? How did it shoot?


it was 54cal & shot about like every other T/C 54 I ever had. which is to say it shot as good or better than I can shoot.

[akajun]

I have one, 50 cal plastic stock, years ago they were talking about banning in lines in LA for primative season, so I bought that. Shot well with sabots but pyridrx pellets it did not like. Powder made it a hammer and 150 grs of pyro rattled my teeth but dropped deer out to 200 Yds. Eventually I put a scope on it.
After I missed a running 10 pt with it I put it in the corner for punishment. Next year they allowed single shot rifles for primative and I bought a handi rifle and never looked back.

[54bore]

179706 179705

[54bore]

179706 179705

Just made a deal on this one, its 54 Cal. Be hard pressed to find one in any better shape than this one! And i much prefer the wood stock!

[Buttonbuck]

The locks and triggers from the 90s before the fire are great. I have 2 from the 90s. Both Renegades.

[bubba.50]

that is for sure a nice lookin' rifle-gun ya got there.

[Harleysboss]

That's a beauty! Nice find.

[BPJONES]

I would have to agree that you aren't gonna find one much nicer than that! Great looking rifle.

[tomme boy]

I thought the Black Mountain Mag was a flintlock that was able to shoot the 150 gr charge of pellets????

[bubba.50]

that was the T/C Firestorm.

[Hickory]

The firestorm came in cap or flint, also in blue or stainless.
I have a stainless flintlock.

[Hardcast416taylor]

Had 1 of the perc 50`s that used a musket cap. Never could get it to fire reliably when using pellets as it was advertised it would use. Finally I put a small starter load of 3F powder in before I loaded 2 pellets. Then it would fire every time. I sold it to a neighbor a few years back. He only uses bulk powder and no pellets thru it with no problems.Robert

I found that the fiber optic front sight got broken very easily by its being exposed. I got some to replace it from T/C as their company was being merged for free. I finally got a large brass dot Lyman front sight and made it the same height to stop the breakage problem.

[54bore]

Specifications:
Caliber: .50, .54 cal. rifles (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F88 6014%2Fhornady-lock-n-load-ap-progressive-press-automatic-case-feeder-plate-large-rifle%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_connexity-_-Reloading%2B-%2BMetallic%2BReloading%2BPresses-_-Hornady-_-886014&mid=77064&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=2258817319&oid=6045358723&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=9&bamt=8ce963fd28c815ed&cobrand=1&ppr=bc82c748d24beeb8&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=22c040aa7ad09331015e6c1e4578a0d0) & 12 Gauge smoothbore cap lock.
Ignition: Musket Cap for fast, positive ignition. A standard No.11 nipple is also included.
Barrel: 26" Rifle - .50 Cal has a 1 in 28" twist, .54 Cal has 1 in 38" twist, both with QLA® Muzzle System. Shotgun has 27" barrel with screw-in Turkey Choke.
O/A Length: 41 3/4".
Approx. WT: 7 lb.
Rifle Sights: Competition click adjustable steel rear sight (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=632&code=632&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=wsnssO--QYrwv6rdONlUIQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F543 152%2Fjp-enterprises-jpoint-electronic-sight-mount-1911-with-standard-rear-sight-aluminum-matte%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Optics%2B-%2BScope%2BRings%252C%2BBases%252C%2BMounting%2B%2 526%2BAccessories-_-JP%2BEnterprises-_-543152%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=JP%20Enterprises%20JPoint%20Electronic%20 Sight%20Mount%201911%20with%20Standard%20Rear%20Si ght%20Aluminum%20Matte&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=161029051927&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=37.99&SKU=543152) and ramp style front sight are fitted with Tru-GloTM Fiber Optics (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=603&BEFID=96424&acode=629&code=629&aon=&crawler_id=523588&dealId=suJxrDKy9wRlo4bDNgZn9A%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F735 792%2Fhha-sports-optimizer-lite-king-pin-tournament-xl5519-1-pin-bow-sight-with-rheostat-scope-010-pin-diameter-right-hand-black%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_ebay-_-Archery-_-HHA%2BSports-_-735792%26sdc_id%3DeBay&DealName=HHA%20Sports%20Optimizer%20Lite%20King%20 Pin%20Tournament%20XL5519%201-Pin%20Bow%20Sight%20with%20Rheostat%20Scope%20.010 %22%20Pin%20Diameter%20Right%20Hand%20Black&MerchantID=523588&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=161029051927&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=295.75&SKU=735792) for precision shooting in low light conditions.
Stock: Black Composite or American Black Walnut.
Trigger: Single with large trigger guard bow.
Extra Features: Aluminum ramrod is standard on the Black Mountain Magnum rifles (http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Fads.midwayusa.com%2Fproduct%2F88 6014%2Fhornady-lock-n-load-ap-progressive-press-automatic-case-feeder-plate-large-rifle%3Fcm_mmc%3Dpf_ci_connexity-_-Reloading%2B-%2BMetallic%2BReloading%2BPresses-_-Hornady-_-886014&mid=77064&cat_id=12150125&atom=10468&prod_id=2258817319&oid=6045358723&***=1&b_id=18&bid_type=9&bamt=8ce963fd28c815ed&cobrand=1&ppr=bc82c748d24beeb8&rf=af1&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=2973&af_id=615103&af_placement_id=1&dv=22c040aa7ad09331015e6c1e4578a0d0).
Loading: The Black Mountain Magnum can accept Magnum charges of up to 150 grains of Black Powder or Pyrodex® equivalent (or 3 Pyrodex® 50 caliber, 50 grain Pellets).
No. 6888: .50 cal. Blued with Black Composite Stock.
No. 6898: .50 cal. Blued with Walnut Stock (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/cz-usa-550-american-safari-magnum-bolt-action-458-lott-centerfire-turkish-walnut-stock-51?a=1805437).
No. 6872: .54 cal. Blued "Westerner" with Walnut Stock.
No. 6847: 12 Ga. Blued with Black Composite Stock.

[54bore]

I guess the walnut stock option is called a 'Westerner'? I dug this info up on the Black Mountain Magnum, it looks like TC was trying to keep the old sidelock alive when the inlines were coming in?

[bubba.50]

I think the "Magnum" & the "Westerner" were attempts to appeal to the western elk hunters where ranges tended to be longer.

[54bore]

I guess the walnut stock option is called a 'Westerner'? I dug this info up on the Black Mountain Magnum, it looks like TC was trying to keep the old sidelock alive when the inlines were coming in?

Sounds very plausible bubba.50, i really like the faster twist idea since i shoot conicals exclusively, and the Walnut stock, i wish it was a renegade style with set trigger, octagon barrel, instead of new englander style.