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Green Frog
10-11-2016, 09:51 PM
The title says it... I'm curious as to who is actively shooting the 327 Fed Mag. I'm interested in what guns and what loads are being used. Was it a "flash in the pan" or is it still growing in strength and popularity. Would anybody buy one if it were available, and if yes, what would be the ideal platform to carry it? Real experiences mean more than armchair observations and naysayers will be ignored!!:coffeecom

Froggie

BK7saum
10-11-2016, 10:39 PM
I have the single seven, 1.1k 327 brass, 1k 32 h&r brass and 2 molds 100 and 115 grain. To date I've only loaded about 500 rounds in the H&R brass. Shooting the high pressure rounds REQUIRES hearing protection which I may or may not have when carrying as a sidearm in the woods. I wear earpro here at the house all the time. I would like to see what the 327 will do though when loaded to its potential, though. Just haven't gotten there yet.

Dan Cash
10-11-2016, 10:54 PM
I don't have the .327 but do have and use several .32-20s, both rifle and revolver. The two cartridges are not that far apart in performance. To me, the ideal platform would be a modern S&W Mod 10 5 inch. Since such is not commonly found, I rely on a 1914 Colt Army Special for daily use. It handles high velocity loadings veery well and has done so for several thousand rounds. I also have an Uberti Cimarron revolver that is a bit better than the Colt but is a single action. I pair the revolvers with a Marlin '94 in .32-20. My load is a 105 grain bullet at 1400 from the revolvers and 1650 from the carbine. A .32 or .327 is a serious cartridge when loaded to those levels.

RJM52
10-11-2016, 11:03 PM
Have two..a Freedom Arms 97/6.5" and a newly acquired Ruger LCR..kind of at opposite ends of the spectrum...

Bought an Accurate Mold, 31-120S and have been shooting it with 8.5 grains of AA-7 for 1400 fps from the Freedom Arms. I have shot four cylinder full from the LCR but cases are firm ejecting so I am going to develop a lighter load for that one...

Would love to see Ruger come out with a GP100 like they had but with the .22 5.25" barrel with half underlug... And it would be nice to have S&W bring back their 631 3" with full underlug barrel and adjustable sights.

However if I get tired waiting for pigs to fly I may just buy a Ruger SP101...

Bob

jj850
10-11-2016, 11:25 PM
I have a.327 in a 4 inch gp 100. It 's fun to shoot and it hits what I point it at mostly. It shoots 100 and 115 gr cast boolits pretty well my favorite is the mp molds 140 gr . I think it should be more popular than it is. It will shoot factory 327 federal ,32 h&r mag ,32 s&w and s&w long and I have shot 32 auto . It should be more popular but it wont do anything that something else wont . I bought it to be a pack gun when I am hiking but I don't normally wear hearing protection in the woods and my biggest con with the .327 is it is loud sharp painful loud. And that is the main reason why I don't use it as a carry gun. It is one of my favorite guns to shoot but it is range only for now

Fergie
10-12-2016, 12:02 AM
Shoot a lot through my .327 FM Ruger BH.

I tried the Single Seven and had issues, so I sold it. Tried the new SP101 in .327 and ended up selling that when I found the BH.

From .32 S&W Long up to the .327 FM, I love the pistol itself and am constantly looking out for other pistols in that caliber(GP!).

A 100gr XTP over 5.0gr of W231 is a real flat shooter to 100 yards. I use a similar load for a LRNFP that a local guy casts.

chsparkman
10-12-2016, 07:10 AM
I have a single seven. After a year I'm still experimenting with loads. I got a Mina 115 grain mold on a group buy and I saw loading data in a Handloader article from February 2015. I've settled, for now, on 10 grains of AA9 and it makes for a very spicy handful. The data says it could go as high as 12 grains but I found the top end less pleasant to shoot.

MT Gianni
10-12-2016, 09:55 AM
I traded my Target Patriot 4" CA 327 after a grip change on my Ruger 32 H&R. The accuracy level came to where it was all the 32 I needed. I kept the Pre regulation police 32 long for sentiment.

Hickory
10-12-2016, 10:15 AM
And it would be nice to have S&W bring back their 631 3" with full underlug barrel and adjustable sights.Bob

There would have to be a very large demand for this gun for S&W to reintroduce it again.

jrayborn
10-12-2016, 12:25 PM
I have six .327 revolvers that have never fired a factory round. I have the SP101, GP100, three Single Sevens, and the LCR. Probably my favorite handgun round. They all seem to shoot like laser-beams. I am happy to share loads, but am away from home right now. I can later if there is any interest.

lefty o
10-12-2016, 03:46 PM
great cartridge in a snubby. have an sp101, shoots nicely.

ABJ
10-12-2016, 03:58 PM
I have an SP-101 in the 4.2 inch barrel. It is becoming my favorite handgun. Just about anything you feed it will shoot pretty good. I have the RCBS-90 grain flat nose with fast powders is a good combo. I also have the Magma 93/wadcutter with fast to med. powders at target speeds does real good. The RCBS 100/swc and Magma's 100/round nose swc seems to like 880x and Blue Dot at close to max charges. I would recommend Three load books: Lyman cast manual 4th edition, Lyman 50th, and Ken Waters pet loads. My guns has loads in all three cases it will group under an inch at 25 yards. 32 s&w long, 32 h&r mag, and 327 federal mag. Based on my test loads the short bearing surface bullets like the lyman 77 and rcbs 90 likes fast powders no matter which case you use. I have had the most accurate loads from the 32 long and h&r cases. I have had moderate success with the 327 case until I started using slow pistol powders like 800X and Blue Dot. I hope this info is of some use to you. I think the 327 is one of the best platforms for a revolver and wish someone would market a levergun for it.
Tony

ejcrist
10-12-2016, 05:01 PM
I have a Single Six in 32 H&R and a FA 97 in 327 with 32 H&R and 32-20 extra cylinders. I haven't had a chance to fire the FA yet as I got it fairly recently. I got the FA mainly for the 32 H&R which is my favorite cartridge. I love 32's and would buy a 327 BH in a heart-beat if I found one for a reasonable price. I'm not too crazy about the Single Seven only because of the cylinder length (too short) which restricts some of the CB's I like to use. I know you can shoot 32 H&R in the Single Seven but I prefer to shoot the H&R in a cylinder so chambered to minimize the space the boolit has to jump to get to the throat. It probably doesn't matter a whole lot but I prefer all the help I can get in the accuracy department. If I had money to spend on a Single Seven I'd probably use it for a nice used 32-20 even if it needed some tuning. Or, better yet, buy a BH with it and save additional funds to send in to a custom smith to re-chamber it in 327 or 32 H&R.

contender1
10-12-2016, 10:21 PM
Let's see,,,, I have a Blackhawk in 327 that is a wonderful & accurate shooter,,, as well as a Buckeye convertible that has had the 32 H&R mag cylinder reamed for the 327,,, and I also have the 7-1/2" Single-Seven. I cast & load a fair amount of slugs that fall out of 2 Miha molds I bought. Flash in the pan? Not hardly. Would I buy another? Yep,,, if the fancy struck me.

rking22
10-13-2016, 12:37 AM
I have a 3 inch SP101 in 327. I was not looking for it when I bought it. Went to the LGS to buy a mid 50s 16ga 870 I had heard about, the SP101 was traded in as I sat there and I added it to the deal due to the VERY low price and it had 5 boxes of factory ammo. Figured it for trade fodder until I shot some 311008 cast at around 1000 fps,, it is a keeper. Too loud for my taste at full steam and if I need more horse power I got bigger guns! I seem to have a craving for "kit guns" and this fits that bill. Also have a SW M31-1 in 32SWL and a Single Six in 32HR. I have shot the 32HRs and longs in the 327, it shoots all accurately but to different POI. My Sp 101 is fixed sight, elevation wise, so I have no use for shooting all the random variety of ammo. The SP101 gets 327 brass with 311008s and enough 231 to get 1000ish, the SS gets 32HR with NOE 100gr RCPS clone at about the same and the 31-1 uses the same noe at about 750. All of them will handle ground hogs, none are deer guns, works for me. I like the 327, same way I like 3inch 357 mags, nice that it is built for it but midrange loads do all I need.

45workhorse
10-13-2016, 10:15 AM
-I have the Blackhawk and a group buy Mihec mold. Good shooting with lubed boolets, am working on a powder coat load.
-I would like a carbine length barrel for the Encore, (to hot for Contender, I think).
-I wish my 10" barrel T/C 32-20 was the same bore size, would make things easier.
-Had chance a little while ago to get a 32-20 Marlin lever gun.....I like to eat and flick them things on the wall for lights.......

I will pass my well shot and cared for .327 on to my son.

CScott
10-13-2016, 01:00 PM
After a long search, I recently bought a lightly used S&W Model 632-1, 3" and am really happy with it. I was able to find a modest supply of American Eagle 100gr JSP ammo which is plenty hot! The small factory stocks resulted in a bruised knuckle that is still sore after 3 weeks but I couldn't stop shooting! I've since loaded and fired 100 rounds with a 120 gr LRNFP boolet from Colorado Cast Bullets over 6.8 gr of True Blue powder and with bigger stocks is much more fun to shoot. Accuracy is better than with the factory loads too. I am working to get even better accuracy (aren't we all) with other boolets and powder.
As was stated in another post, this is a serious revolver! I consider it to be ideal for stream fishing and backpacking in the mountains; a kit gun with power. I think most people who have not shot one think 32ACP or something.
I think this is the caliber that will finally get me to start casting my own boolets. More fun.
A small lever action rifle would be great (Winchester 94-32M?) or an 8 3/8" K frame.
Scott

dragon813gt
10-13-2016, 02:24 PM
Had the full set of Single 7s and a SP101 before a tragic boating accident. I really like the round. I do not like the SP101. It's trigger is horrible. I'm patiently waiting for someone to chamber it in a lever action. There is no need for this rifle. But I sure want one.

Walkingwolf
10-13-2016, 02:30 PM
Had the full set of Single 7s and a SP101 before a tragic boating accident. I really like the round. I do not like the SP101. It's trigger is horrible. I'm patiently waiting for someone to chamber it in a lever action. There is no need for this rifle. But I sure want one.
Not so sure about the no need, 327 would be great small game hunting round in a lever. I have even heard rumors of dear taken with 32-20. The 327 should be better than the 32-20.

A pause for the COZ
10-13-2016, 02:47 PM
I sure love mine. For some reason the topic always ends up in a fight with the bigger caliber crowd.
I have no idea why. No one that has one really tries to make the case that it is significantly better or significantly worse than any other option.
The only thing that is truly significant about it is its versatility and ability to fill many different jobs.
Its pretty much unique in that ability.
Any were from super light 32 short loads for squirrels, 32L loads for a little farther out, Then you can move up in power to the 32mag loading, Then load up some super butt whoopers in 327 mag.

With the single 7 you can color coat your case heads and load what ever variety you may need in the same cylinder.
When a opportunity presents it self. Move the cylinder to the appropriate load for the task and have at it.
I carried the Taurus M327 quite a bit and found it very comfortable to carry all day long. And is accurate and reliable.
Would still carry it but the wife owned into it. Twice actually, I took it and she took it back.
Its the perfect training caliber to train novices with. Simple principle and you can start low power and move up as their skills increase with out teaching them a new gun.

Its all Groovy with me.. Just want a lever action to go along with them.

My 327's are the three on the left. This image is proof positive that if you choose a 327 your not locked into only that caliber. You can have as many as you want.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d66/Kelly2215/100_9941_zpso0mcty3l.jpg

lefty o
10-13-2016, 05:08 PM
have to agree with several others, this would be a great cartridge in a light handy lever gun. wish someone would make it.

hendere
10-13-2016, 09:57 PM
I have a 5-1/2" Single Seven and I love it. I've never had great luck with light loads in it but it loves stout loads with a 100gr SWC. I've been thinking about getting a Contender barrel in the caliber for rifle.

Earlwb
10-13-2016, 10:28 PM
Had the full set of Single 7s and a SP101 before a tragic boating accident. I really like the round. I do not like the SP101. It's trigger is horrible. I'm patiently waiting for someone to chamber it in a lever action. There is no need for this rifle. But I sure want one.

Mossberg made their 1894CB lever action rifle in .32 H&R Magnum for a while. I am not sure if they still do or not though. it was mainly for the Cowboy Action shooting crowd. It would have been pretty neat to have it chambered for the .327 Fed round though. it might be able to feed the .327 round though and if it worked then it could be rechambered maybe. Mossberg still shows it as available though.
ref http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/cowboy/1894_32magnum.asp

Fergie
10-13-2016, 10:45 PM
Mossberg made their 1894CB lever action rifle in .32 H&R Magnum for a while. I am not sure if they still do or not though. it was mainly for the Cowboy Action shooting crowd. It would have been pretty neat to have it chambered for the .327 Fed round though. it might be able to feed the .327 round though and if it worked then it could be rechambered maybe. Mossberg still shows it as available though.
ref http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/cowboy/1894_32magnum.asp

Unfortunately, these are no longer made and people want exorbitant prices for them.

I've not seen one for less than $1500 online, and haven't seen one locally...ever.

Someone on this board had their .32H&R rechambered to .327, so it is doable.

dragon813gt
10-13-2016, 11:05 PM
Unfortunately, these are no longer made and people want exorbitant prices for them.

I've not seen one for less than $1500 online, and haven't seen one locally...ever.

Someone on this board had their .32H&R rechambered to .327, so it is doable.

Correct, they didn't make very many of them. The receivers are not rated for full power 327 Fed rounds from my understanding. I have no issues changing chamberings in most firearms. This is one where I want one from the factory to be on the safe side.

Thundarstick
10-14-2016, 11:33 AM
I'm a big fan of the 327 FM! Taurus snubby, fixed sight SP101, GP100, Black Hawk, 2 Single Sevens, and a S&W 631. I carry the 631 as my ccw every day! I would love a TC rifle with the proper bore.:mrgreen:

Driver33
10-14-2016, 01:24 PM
I have a 5.5 inch single seven an it is my favorite gun to carry in the woods. I put a bisley grip frame on it an changed out the sights. It shoots great with 98gr cast an 100 gr xtp

snowwolfe
10-14-2016, 02:00 PM
The title says it... I'm curious as to who is actively shooting the 327 Fed Mag. I'm interested in what guns and what loads are being used. Was it a "flash in the pan" or is it still growing in strength and popularity. Would anybody buy one if it were available, and if yes, what would be the ideal platform to carry it? Real experiences mean more than armchair observations and naysayers will be ignored!!:coffeecom

Froggie

Bought one when Ruger came out with the Single Seven. It was accurate but I was unable to sight it in because even with the rear sight cranked all the way over it still was 6 inches off to the side at 25 yards. Returned it to Ruger and they fixed it. Test fired it to sight it in. Then it went back in the safe where it remains. Still trying to find a use for it.

chsparkman
10-14-2016, 07:32 PM
If anyone is looking for a single seven, there has been one in my LGS here in Woodbridge, All Shooters Tactical, for the past 18 months. It is the 5.5" model, and it's brand new. When I ordered mine, the owner ordered an extra for his store. I'm sure they would ship it if you're interested.

dragon813gt
10-14-2016, 07:50 PM
What are they asking for it?

rintinglen
10-15-2016, 10:47 PM
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I have two Ruger Single 7's, a 5.5 and 7.5. I really like them. My favorite load is 11.8 grains of H110 under a 100 grain SWC. I have managed several honest, 25 yard, 1 inch groups with the 7.5 incher. My results were quite different from those that Pearce reported in his write up in Handloader. He claimed good to excellent results with Power Pistol and other similar powders, but I have found them to be much less accurate than hot loads with slow powders. That boolit third from the left has been the best performer, although my results with the MP 314-640 100 grain HP have also been very rewarding.

Those boollits are from the left, a 311-316 Lyman, the MP 314-640 100, an LBT 315-100 swc, the RCBS 32-98 WC very accurate with 4.0 grains of red dot, a 95 Grain SAECO RN, a 311-008, and an RCBS 32-98 SWC.

Fergie
10-16-2016, 12:19 AM
Do you have any issues with OAL and the cylinder length of the SS? I found that when I had the SS, I had to be very particular about OAL on the 100gr RNFP I was using.

dragon813gt
10-16-2016, 09:10 AM
The Single 7 has a short cylinder so you are restricted w/ OAL. But it's not a big deal. You just seat the bullets deeper and back off the charge a little.

chsparkman
10-16-2016, 09:43 AM
What are they asking for it?

I'm sorry I don't remember. Seems like it is fair though.

rintinglen
10-16-2016, 12:39 PM
Do you have any issues with OAL and the cylinder length of the SS? I found that when I had the SS, I had to be very particular about OAL on the 100gr RNFP I was using.

Yes Indeed, In the SS7 both the 311-008 and RCBS 32-98 SWC will protrude from the cylinder if crimped in the cylinder groove. Max OAL is limited to 1.500 in my guns, others have reported being able to go a smidge longer but still others report being restricted to less than this length.

Green Frog
10-17-2016, 02:09 PM
I have six .327 revolvers that have never fired a factory round. I have the SP101, GP100, three Single Sevens, and the LCR. Probably my favorite handgun round. They all seem to shoot like laser-beams. I am happy to share loads, but am away from home right now. I can later if there is any interest.

"Yes, please!" :mrgreen:

Froggie

Green Frog
10-17-2016, 02:12 PM
Had the full set of Single 7s and a SP101 before a tragic boating accident. I really like the round. I do not like the SP101. It's trigger is horrible. I'm patiently waiting for someone to chamber it in a lever action. There is no need for this rifle. But I sure want one.

I'm thinking Ruger should bring back the compact little #3 Carbine and chamber it in 327 FM... fat chance, huh?

Green Frog
10-17-2016, 02:28 PM
Bought one when Ruger came out with the Single Seven. It was accurate but I was unable to sight it in because even with the rear sight cranked all the way over it still was 6 inches off to the side at 25 yards. Returned it to Ruger and they fixed it. Test fired it to sight it in. Then it went back in the safe where it remains. Still trying to find a use for it.

I bought one of the big Blackhawk 8-shooters during the brief window they were available and while waiting for my custom "Model 616" to be built, a stainless K-frame S&W based on an old Model 66 donor gun with rebored 617 cylinder and barrel (4", full underlug.) I accumulated at least 6 different moulds (all of which are excellent) loading dies, and lots of brass in 32 S&W, H&R, and 327 lengths and then "life got in the way" and I haven't gotten to really wring them out to anything like the level I had planned. :???:

I'm hoping this thread will provide inspiration to get me off my @$$ and start working with them again. Thanks to all of you for your responses.

Froggie

Ramjet-SS
10-17-2016, 02:47 PM
I'm thinking Ruger should bring back the compact little #3 Carbine and chamber it in 327 FM... fat chance, huh?

Better chance one of the Diatributors would have them run a special for them somebody like Lipseys or Talo

Driver33
10-17-2016, 10:26 PM
I would like to see them offer a bolt action like they do in .357. A 77/327 would be neat

dragon813gt
10-18-2016, 06:22 AM
I would like to see them offer a bolt action like they do in .357. A 77/327 would be neat

Ruger has discontinued that line of rifles so you won't be seeing one in 327.

scotth
10-18-2016, 10:58 AM
how about the ruger american line. i think i would like to see it in the ruger number 3. i know henry has been talking about bringing out the 327 i just thought it would be in a lever gun but maybe it will be in the new single shot. i guess we will see in january. by the way i have the single 7 and sp101 and the lcr love the 32's.

Driver33
10-18-2016, 11:52 AM
A ruger #3 would be nice i may have to look at a contender. That would make a neat little compact carbine

Ramjet-SS
10-18-2016, 01:36 PM
how about the ruger american line. i think i would like to see it in the ruger number 3. i know henry has been talking about bringing out the 327 i just thought it would be in a lever gun but maybe it will be in the new single shot. i guess we will see in january. by the way i have the single 7 and sp101 and the lcr love the 32's.

Looks like thier next adventure will be the 410 lever action shotgun.......

alshaw
10-18-2017, 11:01 PM
HENRY make lever actions chambered in 327 Fed Mag. Enjoy!

dougader
10-19-2017, 11:12 AM
I've heard good things about the Henry lever rifle in 327.

[soap box] I don't understand it when people say you have to wear hearing protection when shooting the 327. What??? You NEED to wear hearing protection for anything more than 22 shorts in a rifle. If you don't you're damaging your hearing. Don't wait until you're 40 or so with significant hearing loss and constant tinnitus (ringing in the ears). [/soap box]

I've had the SP101, S&W 632 in 327 and sold them both for various reasons. The factory Speer 115 GDHP would run a solid 1300 fps from the 3" barrels. Now I have the Single 7 and the same load chronographs at 1528 fps! I have the shorty with the 4-5/8" barrel.

I have plenty of nice loads in 32 mag, but still working on 327 loads. I thought H108 would bring me some love, but I wasn't quite satisfied with it. Same disappointment with Blue Dot. Despite reports of spitting with the use of W296/H110 I'm going to try that next.

I can't believe Speer stopped making their Gold Dots for the 327. It was the best darn bullet going. Hornady XTP's frag at upper end 327 velocities. I do like this 120 grain 120 grain RFP-GC bullet I picked up from a custom loader last year. He dispatches hogs and cattle on his farm with it and the penetration has been excellent... not far behind his 180 grain fp in 357.

Fergie
10-19-2017, 01:09 PM
I picked up a brass carbine Henry in .327 about 2 weeks ago.

I've only had a chance to run about 20 rounds through it, but I am loving it.

My 7 yo boy even shot it off the bench and said it didn't kick too much at all.

Between this rifle, and my 8-shot BH...I'm set for .327s now...so ding dang happy that Henry stepped up.

rintinglen
10-19-2017, 08:25 PM
I have run about 2500 rounds now through my Single Sevens and about 400 through my SP101. They have become some of my favorites for just plain shooting fun. I am seriously considering getting a 327 carbine someway or other. The Henry's run a bit heavy, but If I can find a suitable single shot H&R I may have one built.

35remington
10-19-2017, 10:49 PM
In a pistol, no question you need to wear hearing protection when shooting. The thing with the 327/30 Carbine pistol is that the occasional shot when hunting needs hearing protection too if you can at all manage it and you will regret the times you can't. One can always make a 32 Long out of it if you need quieter.

Out of a rifle I am less concerned for the occasional shot in the field but it's my ears after all. How many deer have I shot with no plugs in with 270/06 etc?

I will say I am not dumb enough to shoot deer with a braked single shot pistol without hearing protection though. My rifles do not have brakes.

9.3X62AL
10-20-2017, 12:04 AM
I have about 250 rounds through my SP-101 x 4.2" so far. Full-value loads are impressive in report (think "30 Carbine Blackhawk with 4" barrel") but kinda docile in recoil. RCBS 32-98-SWC loaded to 900-1000 FPS are an utter delight, and accurate as all-get-out. I predict that 90% of my shooting will get done with the lighter loadings. This has become de rigeur with my magnum wheelguns--cast SWCs of "standard weight" run at 900-1000 FPS. Very useful from 30 to 45 caliber, and all stops in-between.