Sr-4759

[gnoahhh]

I stopped by a gun shop I rarely get to, and lo-and-behold there sat two canisters of SR-4759. I did the happy dance the whole way back to my car! That puts me over ten pounds of it for my "Golden Years". I gotta start using it judiciously!

[dragon813gt]

I bought two jugs when the discontinuation was announced. I should have bought a case......or two [emoji2]

[M-Tecs]

I bought four 8 pounders when it was discontinued. If I use it all before I die I will not regret running out.

[gnoahhh]

Yeah, when they announced the discontinuance I was at a low ebb financially and couldn't afford to stockpile any. I wish too I had been able to, for that is my all time favorite cast bullet powder.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Last weekend at the local gunshow, one older fella and long time private vendor had a large box of powder canisters that were the rectangular paper type with steel base and top...vintage about 1950s or 60s I'd guess? Most were empty, a few were seemingly sealed and full. The box said $2 for empties and $6 for full canisters.

I looked inside and lifted a few canisters. There was one 8oz can of SR4759 and a 16oz of 4831, every other full one was dupont #6 or other similar discontinued powder I never heard of. I walked away to think about it.

Near the end of the show, that vendor was walking by my table trying to give away stuff, as he said he wasn't bringing any of this stuff home. He handed my neighbor [a stock maker] a nice mossberg 22lr rifle stock and then handed me a bowl of 12 ga ammo (misc paper type). I asked him about the box of powder canisters...he said that is already gone...I didn't ask for the details as I was too busy kicking myself for not going back to his table earlier.

[FredBuddy]

Was pretty proud of myself until I read this thread. Yesterday, tested a second load with SR4759 in my 45-70 with excellent results. Today you tell me it's discontinued. I'm on my way to the LGS to get the last 2 cans if they are still there!

[dragon813gt]

It was discontinued over a year ago if that helps [emoji2]

[9w1911]

What are the equivalents? 5744 for one, right?

[dragon813gt]

There are none. This was a powder unto itself.

[.455 Webley]

A neighbor was getting out of reloading a couple months back. He asked me to come over and made me a good deal on anything i could use. So now among other things i have a 90% full can of SR-4759. Just enough to work up some great loads and then miss the stuff for the rest of my life.

What if we all start calling IMR everyday? Seems like if we annoy those people enough they might give us what we want.

[dragon813gt]

You can contact Hodgdon about it. It's an old powder that is expensive to produce. Back when powder was readily available it usually sat on the shelves collecting dust. And I mean that literally. If it does come back I'm sure it would be a new and improved formula which may or may not be the same.

[waco]

I still have about 15lbs left from two 8lbs jugs I bought when I heard it was going away.

[9w1911]

I though Lovex or Noble made a similar one.

[rwadley]

I though Lovex or Noble made a similar one.
Lovex makes a powder similar to AA 5744 (D060). Shooters World sells it as Cowboy (D060-01).
Vectan Ba 6 has similar uses to both AA 5744 and IMR 4759.

[9w1911]

D060 - This is what I was thinking about.

[lotech]

Like others, I bought some when it was announced the powder would be discontinued. I've used it for years with great results. However, I think some judicious experimentation might prove that other powders will duplicate SR4759 results. I'd probably begin with (depending on the cartridge) H4895, 5744, and Reloder 7.

[leadman]

Alliant MP300 is a slightly slower powder than 296/H110 or 5744. It is accurate in the guns I have tried it in and meters easily. The highest velocity out of my Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter 41 mag. is with this powder and the RCBS 215 gr SWC. Over 1,500 fps 15 feet from the muzzle. Also shot it in an old Mosin Nagant and the 314299 with 1 inch groups frequently at 100 yards (has a 2X7 scout scope on it).

[Bent Ramrod]

There's no particular reason that 5744 shouldn't be equivalent to 4759, but in my guns it is not. Early writers said it bulked up in the case like 4759, was accurate with cast boolits like 4759, but it didn't leave those annoying half-burned kibbles strung down the barrel after firing like 4759.

When I tried it, it did bulk up in the case, but the same half-burned kibbles were there in my best loads, and even then, it wasn't quite as accurate as 4759. In my .30 Remington, I gradually increased the load of 5744 until the kibbles disappeared, and accuracy went from OK to nonexistent.

By the way, I've never noticed an increase in accuracy when I've blown the half burned powder out of the barrel before the next shot. It just doesn't seem to matter.

SR-4759 was discontinued once before, and brought back by popular demand. We can only hope it will happen again. Meanwhile, as the song says, "I've got mine."

[rwadley]

Alliant MP300 is a slightly slower powder than 296/H110 or 5744. It is accurate in the guns I have tried it in and meters easily. The highest velocity out of my Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter 41 mag. is with this powder and the RCBS 215 gr SWC. Over 1,500 fps 15 feet from the muzzle. Also shot it in an old Mosin Nagant and the 314299 with 1 inch groups frequently at 100 yards (has a 2X7 scout scope on it).
Considering how similar MP300 is to Win 296/H110, I wouldn't use it for reduced loads.

[gnoahhh]

I tried 5744 years ago as a substitute for 4759 and wasn't impressed. When the sad day arrives and I measure out the last of my 4759, I'll re-investigate it and look into other substitutes as well that may present themselves. Heck, maybe I'm deluding myself and 2400 or 4227 would work even better in a couple guns- I simply haven't bothered much with them much once I got going with 4759. (Note: applications I'm referring to are mostly for medium capacity .30's shooting cast bullets.) That, or I'll take up stamp collecting or tiddly-winks.

Side note: Has anybody messed with 4759 as a propellant for reduced cast loads in the .22 Hornet, .25-20WCF, or even in .32 S&W Longs fired in "bunny rifles"? 2400 and Unique have been my go-to powders with cartridges of that ilk.

[pjames32]

I started using sr 4759 for steel shot shotgun loads, then found how good it was for cast boolits. Look for sales of shotshell reloading supplies. I've found it at some garage sales that advertised shotshell components.
PJ

[Shiloh]

Still shooting the Bartlett 4759 clone.
When it's gone, 4227. Works very well.

Shiloh

[leadman]

I asked Alliant if 300MP is subject to issues like 296/110. Did not get an answer but they did say it is being used in Schetzun guns. It has been a very stable powder with a normal increase in pressures as the charge increased. I am not going to worry about using it in reduced boolit loads.
I also use 2400 and it works well.

[Jeff Michel]

I use 2400 in place of SR4759.

[9w1911]

Ive been trying to save my 2400 just for my 44's as I dont have as much at the moment.
4227 I used to love in the 44's, but 2400 is a tad better, that said, I have been looking into using 4227 the Mosins.
I also have a fair amount of 4759, including the Bartlett clone, which laid next to IMR4759 are identical.

[GOPHER SLAYER]

I have about ten pound of 4759. That should last me to the end, which may be closer than we think. With the fear of forest fires our range is still closed by the Forrest Service. All the mountain ranges are closed.

[Shuz]

4759 has been discontinued and "brought back" several times. I don't care if it ever comes back. I currently have a 5lb can of the IMR product that is nearly completely full, and I'd gladly trade it for 2400,5744 or Rel 7 to anyone in the Spokane Wa./north Idaho area FTF.

[surfanarchist]

I'd be happy to trade 8# IMR 4759 for 8# IMR 7625.

[oldblinddog]

4759 has been discontinued and "brought back" several times. I don't care if it ever comes back. I currently have a 5lb can of the IMR product that is nearly completely full, and I'd gladly trade it for 2400,5744 or Rel 7 to anyone in the Spokane Wa./north Idaho area FTF.

I emailed them. The reply I got back was that they "couldn't give it away", therefore, it will never be made again. I have 7 lbs. I doubt that will last me to the end.

[dragon813gt]

Before Sandy Hook there were dusty bottles on the shelves when you found it. Most places didn't stock it because it didn't sell.

[oldblinddog]

Before Sandy Hook there were dusty bottles on the shelves when you found it. Most places didn't stock it because it didn't sell.

I suspect that means that we are failing to do our jobs as teachers of essential knowledge in the black art of cast boolit reloading.