41mag wadcuctter.

[Thekid]

Hi all,

First post here! I have been lurking around a while, and finally decided to join.
Anyways I just got my hands on an old lee 410-208-WC and was wondering if anyone had any data for this boolit? I have never loaded full wadcuctters in anything, plenty of semi wadcuctters though. So I was thinking I would seat to the last grove and put about 8 grains of unique behind it.... I also have some universal, HS-6, and win 296.
I'm not looking for full mag so the 296 is pretty much out.... Any help would be appreciated!!!

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[joatmon]

Wish I could help but I've never loaded a full WC in a 41. What dia. do they drop at?
Thanks Aaron

[Thekid]

They are dropping at .412, and my 657 mountain gun chamber throats are .410. Also, I'm not sure if I want to tumble lube with lee liquid alox or make up some 50/50 beeswax Vaseline and pan lube...

[GLynn41]

looks like a good cast - --lots bearing surface area---your load -- of 7-8 gr sounds good -start low - I would start at 6 -have fun --share info with us ;) just my
humble opinion

[Sasquatch-1]

I don't know if this will help, but I load a 260 Grn. FWC for 44. I use between 7 and 8 grns of Unique. I would take a load for a comparable bullet and start on the low side and work up to where you want it.

BTW, I use that 44 wad cutter load in a 2x4 match and it's a real board buster.

[MGD]

It's not the same, but I cast the H&G #255 175gr full wadcutter. They usually throw about 180 gr. I tried 4 gr Vectan BA-10. They are going 700-775 depending on barrel length/gun. When I'm doing my part they will cut out the X-ring on a 25 yd bullseye target. Hope that helps with the extrapolation.

[DougGuy]

Unique would do great up to the low end of magnum velocities. I use HS-6 in my Vaquero .45 Schofield conversion with a 250gr Ogival Wadcutter and it does great. Either of those would launch the boolit in your photo into the 1000 ~ 1100fps range. I would lean toward your beeswax based lube and away from alox, but that's just me.

I can also accommodate sizing throats to .4115" or .4125" if you need it done send a PM lots of happy customers here.

[runfiverun]

I use that boolit sized to 411 [could go to 410]
in my 41's it's stupid accurate.
your 8grs of unique will work, I'm using 8.5 in my Rugers.
I seat it with the front band exposed.
in my hunter model I have to press each round in the chamber and spin the cylinder to make sure it's seated.
not conducive to quick reloads for sure :lol:
but the 6 nice round [paper punched like] holes all but touching each other at 25yds is worth the extra effort.

[Thekid]

Awesome! Thanks for all the tips! I just realized all my .41 mag brass is loaded.... Oh well planning to hit the range this weekend anyways. I should have a nice pile of brass to load up to try these out next weekend!

[Oyeboten]

I myself am soon going to be loading .41 Wadcutters.

I do not have a mold, and I have not found any so far, so I sent off to "mattsbullets" and got some of these.

http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=83&products_id=291&zenid=eckotm112lhkgpg0la4g8shn82

Dies have not arrived yet, so, "soon"...

Sounds like 'UNIQUE' is a good choice for this sort of thing?

And a Beeswax based Lube then?

I do not plan to be loading these to full power...just some medium power range to have fun with the Revolver with some Paper Target stuff.

I will also load some up in Black Powder...see what they do...just for fun.

[GLynn41]

If you are lube looking-- try giving a look at White Label lubes-- they are vender here on CAST BOOLITS

[ebner glocken]

You'll like the 41 wadcutters, they're for more than 38s. I load a 200 grain 44 mag wadcutter in front of 6.0 of bullseye that will take care of vermin quite well at 50 yards.

Ebner

[reed1911]

Start with 6.5g of HP-38/W231 or 6.0g Tight Group. No need to push them hard, just watch your accuracy and continue working up until the recoil and groups are where you want them.

[bdicki]

I myself am soon going to be loading .41 Wadcutters.

I do not have a mold, and I have not found any so far, so I sent off to "mattsbullets" and got some of these.

I have a 4 cavity one of these but haven't used it yet.
http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php/e-shop/molds/hb-molds/mp-411-hb-wc-2-cav

[Groo]

Groo here
Use Trail Boss powder , fill to bottom of bullet, start at 90% by weight, light with hot primers, and use a GOOD crimp.
Use with 215gr SWC 41 loads [6gr] and shoots tight and easy.

[Oyeboten]

I have a 4 cavity one of these but haven't used it yet.
http://www.mp-molds.com/index.php/e-shop/molds/hb-molds/mp-411-hb-wc-2-cav

Nice looking Mold/Boolit..!

[Thekid]

Range report on the 410-208-WC... First test run was 7.5 grains of unique, bullet seated with the front band exposed, tumble lubed with LLA, and a good crimp. The shot very accurately at 25 yards. The paper was ripped to shreds big jagged hole but a perfect wadcuctter cutout in the backer(this had me scratching my head). Also I noticed I was getting some lead fouling on the mouth of my brass.... I'm going to make some 50/50 beeswax/Vaseline tomorrow. And am going to try to get some trail boss or w231....

[RJM52]

Nice looking bullet.

Have one of the MiHec WC molds that will throw a full solid WC or a HB or HP...

For reasons unknown I did not record what powder I put in the initial test rounds but I believe it was my standard 8.0 grains of Unique.. Using the bullet as a HP the velocity was 1302 fps from a 4" S&W 657....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Bullet%20Tests/003_zps9cdf1c2e.jpg



http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Bullet%20Tests/002_zps10493f03.jpg



Wadcutters take up a LOT of space inside the case so cut your loads way back from a "normal" bullet that has a lot of lead outside the case...

Bob

[dkf]

The HS-6 is good too with lighter loads. I use it often with SWCs from 180-270gr, MP HBWC and several other bullets in .44mag. Have not had great results with Alox myself, much better results with a 50/50 mix of BAC and Carn red.

[reed1911]

dkf - have you looked at any recovered bullets with that 50/50 mix? I'm curious if the mix allows for the higher vis. cara red to be a bit more sticky with the BAC addition. I run just straight red, wonder if some of the flyers are from balance mis-match with some of the red flaking off.

[dkf]

I mainly use the mix because it is the right hardness when cool to easily push the bullets out of the cake. The BAC does soften up the carn red quite a bit and does make it more tacky. I've been using it in rifle and pistol with good results.(and surprisingly little smoke)

[imshaner2]

Anyone out there have any data for cfe pistol with one of the mo bullet company' .411 225 gr. Rnfp? Thanks