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Geraldo
06-03-2008, 02:55 PM
I've got a barrel in this caliber, and I was wondering if anyone has any cast boolit experience with it, specifically with heavier weight boolits.

scrapcan
06-03-2008, 03:08 PM
What platform is your 357 bain and davis built on? I thought this would be a fun caliber if a person had some extra cash and time.

Geraldo
06-04-2008, 11:26 AM
I went the cheap route. I got a .357mag Contender barrel and had SSK rechamber it. Bought a set of dies and went to work, but I always used jacketed bullets. It really doesn't offer anything you can't get from another .35, but it was my first venture into wildcat calibers.

I've always thought a heavy, hard cast, gc'ed boolit would be the way to go, but I've never found any data to start with.

scrapcan
06-04-2008, 01:58 PM
Sounds like you have an idea that will get you a good start. Let us know how it goes.

wiljen
06-07-2008, 03:36 PM
Case capacity on the 357B&D is almost exactly the same as the 357 Rem Max. I'd use Rem Max starting data and work up.

Scrounger
06-07-2008, 03:57 PM
So getting .357 Max performance in an 1894 Marlin isn't a pipe dream. Anybody invent a wildcat using .45 Colt brass necked down to .357?

Geraldo
06-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Wiljen, that is exactly what I needed.

felix
06-07-2008, 05:09 PM
Gerold, sharp shouldered cases tend to make a powder go faster than otherwise expected, especially when the cases are short like the B&D is. So use the slower powders recommended for the 357 max, and drop another 10 percent than what the book suggests for the same load. No need for mag primers with this case configuration. ... felix

felix
06-07-2008, 05:18 PM
Art, you can do it! Just copy the 44 specs necked down, but with 5 degrees more neck slope. The diameter of the case will more than make up for the longer slope in case volume. Why not do a Casull case? Then you can use slower powders still, like a case full of H322. ... felix

9.3X62AL
06-07-2008, 05:44 PM
357 Maximum ballistics in a Marlin 94.........now, THAT would be a hunting rifle. 180 grain FP........

wiljen
06-07-2008, 05:50 PM
Grizzly did a 357/45 Win Mag for their pistols that might work in the Marlin.

crabo
06-07-2008, 06:25 PM
This will give you some good info on boolit choices.

http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell357Max.htm

Crabo

oldfartz
06-08-2008, 07:05 AM
My understanding of the cartridge is that it can`t be loaded much more than a standard 357 mag. Any hotter and you will get setback, expanded cases binding against recoil shield. The cylinder binds and won`t turn. Smith & Wesson had this problem with their 22 Jet, 357 necked to 22. Good Luck

wiljen
06-08-2008, 07:24 AM
My understanding of the cartridge is that it can`t be loaded much more than a standard 357 mag. Any hotter and you will get setback, expanded cases binding against recoil shield. The cylinder binds and won`t turn. Smith & Wesson had this problem with their 22 Jet, 357 necked to 22. Good Luck

I think since he is not chambering it in a revolver he'll be fine. That usually isn't a problem in a contender or other designs.