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rl69
09-14-2016, 06:48 AM
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"—Revelation 6:10 (http://harvest.us3.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=4f108f827aed8d503b5fca9fa&id=5dfbd47383&e=3dd732485b)Are our loved ones watching us in heaven? How much are they aware of what's going on in our lives?

Revelation 6 gives us a little insight on this topic. In verse 10, we read of those who have been martyred for their faith. They are saying with a loud voice, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" They are aware that the injustice they experienced has not been avenged. They are aware of the fact that time is passing. They are asking the Lord to intervene.

This is a good indication that in heaven we may know more than some people think we will know.

Often people go to extremes on this topic. Some think that our loved ones are watching everything we do and sending us messages and such. Others will say that people in heaven are oblivious about what's going on—that they've had a heavenly lobotomy and are sitting on clouds sleeping. These people reason that if there is no sorrow or tears in heaven, our loved one can't be aware of what's going on here on earth because they would be saddened by our suffering.

But both of those extremes are incorrect. From this passage in Revelation we know that there is some level of awareness of happenings on earth. To what degree, we don't know. But if we are being watched by our loved ones in heaven, I believe they would see everything with an eternal perspective. That is the key.

My grandson Christopher sometimes comes to me with his little battery-operated trains. "Papa, it is broken!" He is sad. His world has just ended. He doesn't have my adult perspective.

I have a screwdriver. I have more batteries. I have got him covered. I am going to fix it. He doesn't have to worry about it. He might be sad, but I am not, because I know the outcome.

It's all about having the right perspective

rheagunman
09-14-2016, 07:13 AM
Amen I believe that as a born again christian, when you die, your soul lies in a state of hollyness until God comes back to take us all to heaven.

Boaz
09-14-2016, 07:51 AM
Amen I believe that as a born again christian, when you die, your soul lies in a state of hollyness until God comes back to take us all to heaven.

Your thought or belief could be correct . Our bible is a bit vague on the subject , there are many mysteries we are not meant to know such as .....He will come as a thief in the night . Seems most preachers give the idea that we immediately ascend to heaven at death . It would seem more gratifying to us .

I have studied and thought much about it and in conclusion I'm good with it either way . We will be loved and cared for by our Lord , that is a sure thing . There is a plan ....Praise GOD !

Pine Baron
09-14-2016, 08:37 AM
Thanks rl. I think the key phrase here is "eternal perspective". Explains a lot.

Blackwater
09-14-2016, 10:46 AM
Amen, and I think PB is right. The perspective from which we view things often has the ability to determine what and how much of it we really see. The eternal perspective is the only truly valid one, but there are others. When we see things from the perspective of our own wills - as we WANT to see them (often, it seems, out of laziness in not wanting to look it up and find the real answers, and the consistent mysteries that so often permeate our answers while we still wear these mortal, corruptible bodies we wear now) - we are almost guaranteed to err. Only when we seek, at least, to find God's will and His intent and purposes in it all can we find the real answers. And that can take a lifetime for us to discern - too much "trouble" for some, so they "settle" for something less just because it's "easier" ..... at least for the time being. But it can never be as satisfying as finding the real answers, but those, we have to EARN. And that's what stymies so many, it seems!

Great post. Thank you.