Making a standup threading tool holder

[Buckshot]

...............Set it up in a rotary vice and then scribed the lines for the insert.

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Ist cut, after indicating set up for a 120º cut.

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2nd cut, rotated 240º for the 2nd cut.

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Intervening metal removed and trying the insert for fit, then spotting for the screw hole.

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Drilling and then taping for the attachment screw.

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Milling off excess material.

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The insert in place. Just have to make the top block to secure the insert.

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Drilling the tap hole, and then milling the relief for the locking bar.

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The locking bar in place, and drilled ant taped for it's retaining screw.

[Buckshot]

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Parting off the locking bar.

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The locking bar in position.

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Completed and ready for threading

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Works like a champ!

.............Buckshot

[Southern Son]

Very nice, Buckshot.

Just one question, where did you get the stand up threading tool insert? I can only find the other kind (lay down ones, if you like).

I would love to get a mill for this stuff, or even set up an attachment on my lathe that will let me mill on the lathe.

[EMC45]

Very cool. I learn something every time you post a shop series of pics and descriptions

[TCLouis]

THX Buckshot!!
A few pictures explain it as well as anything that could be written.

[Jedman]

Very nice ! I would also like to know where you got that insert. I would make one for myself,
since my eye sight is really poor anymore a exact 60 degree insert would be Great !

Jedman

[DCM]

Very Nice!

[drhall762]

They are available from MSC. They are called On-Edge Threading Inserts.

http://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Indexable-Cutting-Tools/Indexable-Inserts/Threading-Thread-Mill-Inserts/On-Edge-Threading-Inserts?navid=12107191

[Southern Son]

They are available from MSC. They are called On-Edge Threading Inserts.

http://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Indexable-Cutting-Tools/Indexable-Inserts/Threading-Thread-Mill-Inserts/On-Edge-Threading-Inserts?navid=12107191

Thanks for that. Will try to locate something in Oz.

[dverna]

Very smart

[KCSO]

Darn it Buckshot! You have again aggravated the tool lovers dilemma. Should I finish up the shop work that is waiting or should I make a new neat tool. Oh my Daughter oh my Ducats.

Nice job!

[GOPHER SLAYER]

Rick, what in the world are you doing screwing around with some Mickey Mouse threading tool when you are supposed to be making a screw for my Stanley wood plane. That tool you are wasting time on will not better the condition of mankind one whit, while my plane was to be used to help build habitat for the homeless. Now get to it. After all, I AM PAYING YOU THE BIG BUCKS.

[woodbutcher]

:lol: Uh Buckshot.What happened to the pics?
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[Buckshot]

............Well to answer some questions, yes the inserts did come from MSC. The swivel vise was off E-Bay some time back ( and required a bit of work itself.....Asian accuracy vs what you'd like to see). It DOES work like a champ in the end, and that's what matters.

So far as Gopher Slayer goes ................. He sells you a nice 11" Logan lathe that was made in 1981 (new for American Iron) with a variable speed drive, throws in a bunch of chucks.............

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With a 5C collet closer,

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A 6 jaw Buck 6 jaw Adjust Tru, along with a Buck 2 jaw, and a Albreckt (German) 4 jaw..................

And then he wants you to make stuff for him :-)

But to date it's only been odd and weird screws, so I suppose I can live with it. But that is the reason for the threading tool.

Carefull of folks who 'GIVE' you machine tools and stuff as they become like a limpet. Or possibly it should be better known as a Leech? :-)

................Buckshot

[blackbahart]

excellent threading tool and instructions also,thank you !

[smokeywolf]

Great lesson Buckshot.

[HollowPoint]

I like it. I have a store bought one but I see now I could have just as easily made one.

What kind of metal did you use to make the holder? My store bought doesn't have the additional little "locking bar." I think it's because my metal holder has been hardened to a certain extent so there's no where that the threading insert can go, even under a heavy cutting load. It would most likely break the insert before it could spin in the holder.

The actual fit of your insert looks to be perfectly fitting and perfectly snug. Is this because the metal you used is possibly soft enough to distort under load; or, just as an added securing feature? Either way, it's pretty slick. Have you made an inside threading tool holder as well. The store bought holder I'm alluding to has Outside threading capability on one end and inside threading capability on the opposite end.

It's a hassle having to swap ends to do either-or types of threading. Seeing your cutting tool as it is makes me think it might be worth while to make two separate tools; one for inside threading and one for outside threading.

Excellent Do-Thatsmanship.

HollowPoint

[GOPHER SLAYER]

............Well to answer some questions, yes the inserts did come from MSC. The swivel vise was off E-Bay some time back ( and required a bit of work itself.....Asian accuracy vs what you'd like to see). It DOES work like a champ in the end, and that's what matters.

So far as Gopher Slayer goes ................. He sells you a nice 11" Logan lathe that was made in 1981 (new for American Iron) with a variable speed drive, throws in a bunch of chucks.............

http://www.fototime.com/8E1580CC26C0B7A/standard.jpg

With a 5C collet closer,

http://www.fototime.com/6ADB65C4A381D83/standard.jpg

A 6 jaw Buck 6 jaw Adjust Tru, along with a Buck 2 jaw, and a Albreckt (German) 4 jaw..................

And then he wants you to make stuff for him :-)

But to date it's only been odd and weird screws, so I suppose I can live with it. But that is the reason for the threading tool.

Carefull of folks who 'GIVE' you machine tools and stuff as they become like a limpet. Or possibly it should be better known as a Leech? :-)

................Buckshot Now I ask you, what are friends for?

[W.R.Buchanan]

Your tool looks nice.

I have a question: did you make that threading tool for left handed threads? If not why didn't you put the insert on the left side of the tool so it would go closer to a shoulder?

Randy

[Buckshot]

"What kind of metal did you use to make the holder? My store bought doesn't have the additional little "locking bar." I think it's because my metal holder has been hardened to a certain extent so there's no where that the threading insert can go, even under a heavy cutting load. It would most likely break the insert before it could spin in the holder."

........... It was common low carbon hot rolled steel. I dip it in Muriatic acid first to kind of smooth it up a bit. I don't think it needs to be anything very exotic as it sees no interrupted cuts, nor any heavy threading.

Your tool looks nice.

I have a question: did you make that threading tool for left handed threads? If not why didn't you put the insert on the left side of the tool so it would go closer to a shoulder?

Randy

I made it like that as I prefer to thread on the 'backside', AWAY from the headstock..............

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No sweating about throwing out the half nuts before crashing :-) You can stand there and scratch while the tool runs off the end.

.............Buckshot