Would some be kind enough to put a price next to the ones they're familiar with?

[AbitNutz]

I know there are many variations of most of these but just assuming the latest/most available versions? I've collected more than a couple different versions of most. I don't have any super rare or unobtainable models. The worst of them is in very good condition. The best of them is in very good condition. None stand out as "mint" or "trash". Over the years I would buy what I came across and later, if I found one in better condition, I would sell the old one. It has only recently occurred to me that I was putting together a collection of military bolt rifles.

Also, if you think there are any that I am missing...I just recently picked up the Finnish M39 and the straight pulls, K31 and M95. I am keeping my eye open for a Ross and just missed a nice one at an online auction.

I know it's not a valuable collection but it's one I can afford to have and share with my grandson...and we can even shoot them! So please be kind...about my choices. I'm far from an expert that many of you folks are.

The reason I'm asking you folks to put down what you think the values are is because I want reality. Looking up prices on Blue Book or Gun Broker (God Forbid!) I don't think is realistic...at both ends of the scale.



1
German
K98


2
Yugoslavian
M48


3
Japan
Type 45


4
British
Lee -Enfield


5

P-14 Enfield


6
Japan
Type 66


7

Type 99


8
USA
1903 Springfied


9

Krag-Jorganson


10

P-17 Enfield


11
Denmark
Madsen M47


12
Austria
Mannlicher 1903


16

M95


13
France
MAS 36


14
Russian
Mosin


15
Sweden
M96


17
Switzerland
K-31


18
Finland
M39

[Hardcast416taylor]

You should keep your eyes open for a Pattern 14 Enfield .303 and for a Lee Enfield Mk 5 Jungle carbine. A Trapdoor Springfield is always a nice addition.Robert

[RustyReel]

Sold listings on Gun Broker are what people are actually paying (plus shipping and transfer fees), and you can get a pretty good idea of the condition of the piece. Can you often find then cheaper "locally", yes. My experience with Blue Book is that it is out of whack in both directions.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

2
Yugoslavian
M48


LGS by me has them for $ 250. in real good shape still in cosmoline

[Der Gebirgsjager]

I know there are many variations of most of these but just assuming the latest/most available versions? I've collected more than a couple different versions of most. I don't have any super rare or unobtainable models. The worst of them is in very good condition. The best of them is in very good condition. None stand out as "mint" or "trash". Over the years I would buy what I came across and later, if I found one in better condition, I would sell the old one. It has only recently occurred to me that I was putting together a collection of military bolt rifles.

Also, if you think there are any that I am missing...I just recently picked up the Finnish M39 and the straight pulls, K31 and M95. I am keeping my eye open for a Ross and just missed a nice one at an online auction.

I know it's not a valuable collection but it's one I can afford to have and share with my grandson...and we can even shoot them! So please be kind...about my choices. I'm far from an expert that many of you folks are.

The reason I'm asking you folks to put down what you think the values are is because I want reality. Looking up prices on Blue Book or Gun Broker (God Forbid!) I don't think is realistic...at both ends of the scale.



1

German

K98 $250-$650



2

Yugoslavian

M48 $250-$350



3

Japan

Type 45 Not familiar with a Type 45. Did you mean 44? $600



4

British

Lee -Enfield Many variations of these. Most common, No.I Mk.III* $350-$450, No.4 Mk.1 $325-$375, No.5 Jungle Carbine $450-$600



5


P-14 Enfield $350-$400 Hard to find not refinished.



6

Japan

Type 66 not familiar with this one.



7


Type 99 Pre/early/late war complicates price,
$150-$350



8

USA

1903 Springfield (not 03-A3) $500-$800



9


Krag-Jorgenson Rifle $600-$1,200 Carbine
$800-$2,500



10


P-17 Enfield $275-$375




11

Denmark

Madsen M47 $450-$750



12

Austria

Mannlicher 1903 $250-$375



16


M95 Unaltered rifle
$325 Cutdown to short rifle $150



13

France

MAS 36 $250



14

Russian

Mosin Many variations: $150-$1,200



15

Sweden

M96 $325-$425



17

Switzerland

K-31 $250-$400



18

Finland

M39 $350-$450





Almost impossible due to regional differences in value. Also, in collecting, condition is everything in value; and a common item, like a Nagant of which there are many variations, can be worth $50 for a hacked one to $1,200 for a rare variation in nice condition. You're really better to use the Blue Book as a basis for a starting price as it often does take condition and rarity into account, and then negotiate up or down, depending on if you're a seller or a buyer. So, I'm going to give you what I think, and that's just what I think, and others probably will take exception and make corrections from their viewpoint. I'm going to assume that all the rifles are (1) unaltered (2) excellent condition, and this is what I as an individual would be willing to pay. The bottom end of the price range would be for the most common, the upper end for an unusual specimen, again all in excellent or better condition. If you do acquire a Ross be sure to read up on bolt reassembly.

Other good items for your collection might be: French Lebel, French 1907/15 Berthier, German Gew. 1888, Gew. 1898, 98k, Italian Carcanos, many 98-type Mauser made for foreign contracts and/or indigenous Mauser copies such as Central and South American, Chinese copies of the 88 and 98 Mausers.

Many of these old timers require a special clip to shoot as repeaters, and in some instances they're getting harder to find than the actual rifle. Also, most of them originally used corrosively primed ammo. There's still a lot of it around, so if you decide to shoot some of it be sure to have your grandson clean properly or you'll damage your investment.

There are a number of good books on the subject of collecting military rifles, a relatively inexpensive one being "Collecting Classic Bolt Action Military Rifles" by Paul S. Scarlata.

[lefty o]

almost impossible to put a price on most of these without actually having an individual rifle in hand. dont agree with most of the prices that were put in red either. a german k98 could be as low as $300 for a beater russian capture to over a few thousand for a nice matching example. a us model 1917 ,$375 will buy you a pile of garbage.

[wonderwolf]

1
German
K98 -$250+


2
Yugoslavian
M48 $225+


3
Japan
Type 45


4
British
Lee -Enfield $200+


5

P-14 Enfield


6
Japan
Type 66


7

Type 99 $175+


8
USA
1903 Springfied $400+


9

Krag-Jorganson


10

P-17 Enfield


11
Denmark
Madsen M47


12
Austria
Mannlicher 1903


16

M95


13
France
MAS 36


14
Russian
Mosin 91/30 only $175+


15
Sweden
M96


17
Switzerland
K-31 $275+


18
Finland
M39 $300+




Filled in the ones I or friends have purchased in the last year in good to excellent condition, the only exception would be the M39 needed stock repair.

Gun broker prices are usually 15% ish off of what you can find else where....although that swings both ways, I've gotten a few great deals on GB way under value before but its rare. Remember what is common in one part of the country is not in other parts.

[AbitNutz]

Thanks so much...individually we'e not talking a lot of money but with 20+ rifles it does add up...Looks like there were only a couple I may have paid with my heart and not my head. Others were almost given to me...

[wonderwolf]

It all depends on condition and stamps, some guys need to fill holes in collections. I shopped around for a long time until I found a M39 that I was happy with as I really REALLY wanted a Finn rifle. and even then the stock was cracked on it, but in a way I felt comfortable buying it at that price and shooting it.

My list was just a starting point for the rifles I know, All mine I got to shoot. For a LONG time I had lots of 91/30s then discovered the joy of finn assembled (they never made their own actions at least on the M39) Mosin Nagant. A world a difference for sure.

[WILCO]

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[WILCO]

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[TCLouis]

Due to recent parts search I can tell you about Type 99

Stocks with hand guard and metal are selling for 200 bucks
Complete bolts close to a hundred (or more)
Complete Type 99 Aircraft sight is 150 - 175

How come you shorted the Type 38?

[Der Gebirgsjager]

TC--you need to check out www.gunauction.com (http://www.gunauction.com) for 99s. I see them go for $125 and up every week.

[AbitNutz]

How come you shorted the Type 38?

I really shouldn't have...I guess I'll add another. I believe that the Japanese 6.5x50 cartridge was way ahead of it's time. If it were introduced today, it would be hailed as the latest, greatest intermediate round.

[EDG]

I have a set of dies for the 6.5 X .250 Savage. I think it would be even better than the 6.5 Japanese round. It is about the same length, similar taper but a little fatter body and no rim to hang up like the Japanese version.