00000/.395" mold

[6pt-sika]

Got a Lee .395" round ball mold to make and try some 00000 Buck ����

[Outpost75]

I have the .390 mold and got reasonable results loading a stack of three in Starline 5 in 1 Blank cases with 5 grains of Bullseye to try as a multi-ball load in my .44-40 Marlin and Ruger Vaquero.
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[6pt-sika]

This stuff will be used in the variouse 10 gauge doubles I have . I already tried loads with 0000 Buck (.380") and they did well enough to kill a deer at distances to perhaps 35-40 yards . Kinda my pet hobby killing poor unsuspecting deer at archery range with my handloaded buckshot !

In my 12 gauge doubles I load nothing larger then 0 Buck , in the 16's largest I've gone was #1 and in my 20's I've loaded #2 and #3 as well as shooting some Euro factory #1 buck .

[6pt-sika]

Well I just finished making some 00000 Buck or .395" round balls . They actually mic .398" but we'll see what we've got after I roll them to smooth out the sprue flat .

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[6pt-sika]

Loaded some 0000 and 00000 Buck this afternoon . Loaded the 0000 6 in the SP-10 wad and also 8 with the petals removed and a mylar wrap . For the 00000 Buck I loaded 4 of them in the SP-10 wad and 6 with petals removed and a mylar wrap . All were fired at 25 yards off hand . 30 grains SR7625 , 4.3cc's Grex buffer .


I only fired them in my circa 1884 Parker top lever hammer 10 gauge .


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First 00000 Buck . 4 pellets and the Sp-10 wad .


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00000 Buck 6 pellets and the SP-10 wad with the petals removed and a .003" mylar wrap .


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The 0000 with the whole SP-10 wad and 6 pellets .


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The 0000 with 8 pellets no petals on the wad and the .003" mylar wrap .


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I loaded more of both with the mylar wrap to try in my pair of Parker hammerless 10 gauge guns . It seems to have tightened the pattern a bit and added two pellets of each . If it does the same in the two hammerless guns I may try the same thing with 000 and 00 Buck !

[runfiverun]

I like that 8 pellet load.

the left barrel must have the tighter choke.

[izzyjoe]

Them are some nice loads, should work great on deer!

[victorfox]

I'm planning such a load of 4x .40 for my 12ga... Nice patterns you got, liked the 8 pellet load too

[6pt-sika]

Just finished trying 0000 Buck and 00000 Buck with the petlas removed from the SP-10 wad and a .003" mylar wrap in my circa 1889 Parker EH #2 frame 30 10 gauge and my circa 1899 Parker EH #3 frame 32" 10 gauge both at 25 yards and offhand . The results were as positive as those in my Parker 1884 #3 frame 10 gauge hammer gun !


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1889 #2 with 00000


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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/6pt-sika/00000%20Buck%20395/EH2%2000000L_zpskouzwtj2.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/6pt-sika/media/00000%20Buck%20395/EH2%2000000L_zpskouzwtj2.jpg.html)


1899 #3 with 00000


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1889 #2 with 0000


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1899 #3 with 0000


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After I cleaned these two guns I pulled out my circa 1890 LC Smith Quality 2 10 gauge . Perhaps tomorrow I'll load a pair of 0000 and a pair of 00000 to try in it . The Smith is chokes a bit less tight perhaps it will show and even better tighter pattern at 25 yards . I think perhaps next week I'll try some patterns at 40 yards .

[6pt-sika]

Loaded enough of the 0000 and 00000 Buck to try my circa 1890 LC SMith Quality 2 30" 10 gauge at 25 and 40 yards . Again only loaded SP-10 wads with the petals removed and a .003" Mylar wrap .


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00000 at 25 yards


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0000 at 25 yards




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00000 at 40 yards




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0000 at 40 yards




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25 yard stuff looks pretty decent , but most of the 40 yard stuff leaves a bit to be desired . I still have a circa 1882 Parker Grade 2 lifter hammer 10 gauge with 30" barrels I might try , but it looks like I have four guns that'll be adequate with my homemade buckshot .

[copdills]

great information thanks

[victorfox]

Ok, just loaded a few 12ga with .40 balls. I could fit 4, for a payload of about 400gr, inside a shotcup. I believe the wads I have are about the same as Rem RP12 but are rated to 1 1/8oz. The crimp was not pretty and I used no buffer.

Just for kicks, let's see how it patterns... Not expecting the great results of yours, just an availability of .40 buckshot and curiosity :lol:

[6pt-sika]

Ok, just loaded a few 12ga with .40 balls. I could fit 4, for a payload of about 400gr, inside a shotcup. I believe the wads I have are about the same as Rem RP12 but are rated to 1 1/8oz. The crimp was not pretty and I used no buffer.

Just for kicks, let's see how it patterns... Not expecting the great results of yours, just an availability of .40 buckshot and curiosity :lol:
You might wanna try some buffer with them , just a suggestion . I wanna try some more at 40 yards sometime fairly soon .

[6pt-sika]

The plan for Friday is to cast 200 of these .395" round balls . And perhaps a 100-150 of the .380" round balls as well .

[6pt-sika]

Ended up today making 254 of the 0000 Buck and 256 of the 00000 Buck water quenched from wheel weights . Also rolled them all between a square of aircraft grade aluminum and a square of steel . Perhaps next week I'll try and make 250 or so of both size again .

[6pt-sika]

Well back at the casting thing again !


I want to try and cast 600 more of the 00000/.395" and 800 of the 0000/.380" this week to add to what I already have . What I wanna cast this week will give me enough to load 100 rounds of each for the 10 gauge . And no I do not plan on loading that number when I'm done , but if they're on hand I don't need to worry with doing it later :wink:

[6pt-sika]

Wow I just finished casting and rolling 600+ of the 00000/.395" balls . Took me awhile !

[6pt-sika]

Well I'm waiting on my pot to melt whats in it and then start casting 0000/.380" balls . I "want" to get 800 of them IE enough for 100 shells . And that should last me for a good long time .

[6pt-sika]

I rolled all of the 600+ 0000 Buck pellets today one at a time . And I'm going to take the 00000 Buck pellets I cast and semi rolled Tuesday back into the shop tomorrow and reroll them all one at a time .


Not really sure if rolling them trying to knock the edges off the sprue cut does any good or not . But in my mind I think it does . I know I was told several times the old muzzle loader guys would roll their round balls between two pieces of glass to try and round them some where the sprue cut was . So at the very least rounding them up a bit shouldn't make them any worse LOL's !