Winchester, Remington, and Federal brass

[mould]

Has anyone noticed that they have stopped making brass???? I have seen other articles on this but it seems no one is talking about it !!!! I read an article a while back that a large company has bought them out and they are no longer making reloading components. Also they may stop making ammo. Come on guys, look how it is drying up. I have been watching for 30/40 Krag brass. Then I found out that all brass is going away and no back orders.

[Baja_Traveler]

Yep, I posted about it six months back when I learned I could no longer get 218 Bee, 25-20 or 32-40 brass. I pleaded with everyone who read the post to contact Starline and request they start making it. Luckily, Starline has invested in the annealer required to make bottleneck cases, so we hopefully will see alot more options from them. Looks like they started out producing .308 brass, which is kind of curious since just about everyone makes it right now, and Lake City and Lapua brass is super easy to get - but they are heading in the right direction...

[GRUMPA]

Has anyone noticed that they have stopped making brass???? I have seen other articles on this but it seems no one is talking about it !!!! I read an article a while back that a large company has bought them out and they are no longer making reloading components. Also they may stop making ammo. Come on guys, look how it is drying up. I have been watching for 30/40 Krag brass. Then I found out that all brass is going away and no back orders.

Most internet myths are just that.....myths. Until facts are provided from the major companies theories run rampant and next thing you know people come up with there own answers. Companies are in business to make money, we all know that. But we as consumers have no concrete answers as to why things aren't as available as they once were.

Enter the here and now: Companies are "NOT" going to making things that are deemed low priority. Folks with those odd ball cartridges are going to have to find another source. There's a lot of cases that can be made from more abundant, common cases with a little work, but I emphasise the work part. I do a lot of conversions, every bit as good as factory, some better, and although it requires some sort of effort to make it all work, your not getting the proper head stamp.. Folks are really mind-set on proper head stamped cases, and those are the ones that will wait the longest for what they want.

From what I can extrapolate, companies are working on the most popular of cartridges. Things like 223, 308, 38spl, 9mm, 45acp etc.

The cartridges that are less popular are just going to have to wait.

[EDG]

The ammo companies are busy filling orders and making money to insure their execs get their short term performance bonuses.
These executives may not be shooters and may retire leaving a company that will eventually go broke so they don't really care about the long run as long as they make their up coming bonus.

Now back to the long run. The LONG RUN is the ammo companies are committing slow motion suicide by not taking care of their markets.
The US companies are even buying brass from their overseas competitors like PPU.

Right now PPU and Fiocci and others are introducing a variety of calibers that will insure they get a foot hold in the US market. With the lower costs of Serbia and other countries many of the unionized (overpaid) US operations will go broke once the consumer gets a good supply of decent ammo at a lower price. You only have to look at Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Subaru to figure it out.

[mold maker]

Cheaper foreign imports, unrealistic min wages, and too many regulations are killing America.
Here, there was work for everyone in furniture and textiles. That turned into empty buildings and storage. Next was the wrecking balls and empty lots.
Now it's wall to wall real estate signs with faded paint, overgrown property, and blight.
If we as Americans aren't allowed to produce goods at a price that our wages can afford, foreign manufacturers will gladly find a way to replace our exports with their own.
Another 4-8 years, of the failed current policies, and we might as well put a For Sale sign on all of America.
The brass and ammo availability is just another part of the decline. Panic buying and increased real demand, without increased investment in production equipment, are to blame. With the current climate, manufacturing is afraid to invest, because the likelihood of another stroke of the pin is all that's needed to put them out of business.
Planned or not, we are opening the doors to more massive invasions of even more whole industries. When they're gone, we'll be totally at the mercy of politicians, foreign imports, and Gov. handouts.

[B. Lumpkin]

As has been stated here, the more popular brass gets priority. I would not waste set-up time to run a (now) oddball caliber when I can barely keep up with making the most common and in demand calibers.

[mould]

You may want to check popular brass [30/06, 308 ect] Remington has quit making any in any calibers. Winchester and Fedral brass is almost gone. This can get scary

[GRUMPA]

You may want to check popular brass [30/06, 308 ect] Remington has quit making any in any calibers. Winchester and Fedral brass is almost gone. This can get scary

Like what was stated, loaded ammo right now, not reloading components. They still make the brass but for the loaded ammo part only.

[B. Lumpkin]

Federal brass is really at the bottom of the heap for me. Primer pockets give up the ghost to quick.

[runfiverun]

I just looked at a wall of Winchester brass at the LGS that wasn't there before.
nothing spectacular [there never was] but they had 0-6,308,270,6.8, even some 30-30.

[screwcutter]

I just looked at a wall of Winchester brass at the LGS that wasn't there before.
nothing spectacular [there never was] but they had 0-6,308,270,6.8, even some 30-30.

I saw W-W R-P & Federal today at Sportsman's Warehouse and Cabellas more W-W. 22H 223 243 30-06 7-08 25-06 270 308 30-30 45ACP 380 are what I can remember.

[Nrut]

Has anyone noticed that they have stopped making brass???? I have seen other articles on this but it seems no one is talking about it !!!! I read an article a while back that a large company has bought them out and they are no longer making reloading components. Also they may stop making ammo. Come on guys, look how it is drying up. I have been watching for 30/40 Krag brass. Then I found out that all brass is going away and no back orders.
Have you looked at Buffalo Arms for 30/40 Krag brass?
They have carried it in the past..
In the last 6 months I have bought Remington brass in both .308 and .223 from the local sport shop out in the middle of nowhere, podunk B.C.

[wrench man]

Cabela's had so much Remington brass they put a bunch of it in the bargain cave to get rid of it, and they have plenty of Winchester on the shelf and some Hornady.

[LeadHead72]

Just a hunch, but this sounds suspiciously like Internet fear-mongering rumors.

[Moonie]

I just looked at a wall of Winchester brass at the LGS that wasn't there before.
nothing spectacular [there never was] but they had 0-6,308,270,6.8, even some 30-30.

Winchester making 6.8??? This is news to me, when did they start making 6.8? I remember the only companies that did were Hornady, SSA, S&B and Remington.

[BAGTIC]

The foreign countries supplying brass are for the most part socialist democracies that are just as bureaucratic and over regulated as America. In many cases their costs of production are just as high as the US. Many have wages comparable to the US. In any case those actually producing the product are unlikely be minimum wage beneficiaries. THIMK!

[Nrut]

THIMK!
huh?

[Lead Fred]

In real America it was customer satisfaction

In corporate amerika its board room satisfaction