What do I have???

[Bug]

I recently came by a revolver, and need some help identifying what it is, or at least what it shoots.
The best I can do for the description is:
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/PistolsModern.html#a%20pistols%20Spanish
It is listed as a "Very Nice Spanish Armero Especialistas "ALFA" Revolver
Caliber: 32 Long".
The barrel is marked " la industria orbea eibar"
There are no ctg markings discernible anywhere. The grips might be made of horn or "ebonite". It is in pretty good condition overall, and functions well after a good bath, and some fine tuning.
It appears tofire some sort of 32 cal centerfire, but everything I've tried is too loose/sloppy. 32 S&W long are the least sloppy, but will not engage the extractor star. The entrance to the chambers are about .363" by my caliper. 32-20s will fit pretty close, and are not too long for the cylinder (surprising!). But I know they aren't correct. 32 colts & h&Rs are much too small. The cylinder bores are of the "conventional" type, meaning they have a chamber and throat and are not tapered. I figure I might be able to cobble up some cases from 32-20, but would like to buy some if they are available. I haven't slugged the throats or barrel yet. Still hoping to identify it first. Heck, it might be some sort of an 8mm???
Can y'all help me out?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Bug.

[Pavogrande]

You might consider this cartridge -- 8mm lebel revolver cartridge for French m1992 ordnace revolver. Other revolvers made by Bayard and Pieper so Spanish maker not too far fetched.
Dimensions: rim .409, head .355, shoulder/mouth .349, 1.075 long and bullet .323.

If you can come up with other dimensions may be able to narrow it further.

My best guess --

[wiljen]

If memory serves alfa revolvers were chambered in both 32 Long and 38 long. I havent heard of an 8mm version but it is possible - what does the bore slug?


I checked the blue book and the only chamberings it lists are .22, .32 S&W, .38 S&W and .44

http://books.google.com/books?id=dtXAksiLURkC&pg=PA142&lpg=PA142&dq=%22Armero+Espe
cialistas%22&source=web&ots=wu-K_-orYG&sig=i-OoahxiD3kxM9vg8qsLQ9_uMNs&hl=en

[Pepe Ray]

Does it look like a fixed sight old S&W . Look for a butt mounted lanyard swivel or hole where it may have been removed? If so.--8mm Lebel
I've still got the swivel if you need it.
Pepe Ray

[Dutchman]

The best I can do for the description is:
http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/PistolsModern.html#a%20pistols%20Spanish
It is listed as a "Very Nice Spanish Armero Especialistas "ALFA" Revolver
Caliber: 32 Long".

He didn't say it was an Alfa. He said this was the best description...



The barrel is marked " la industria orbea eibar"


Orbea Hermanos in Eibar, Spain. Well known maker of Smith & Wesson copies, some with mainsprings hand honed to a *mirror* finish.
http://tinyurl.com/6qmjzy
Not enough info there.

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=%22la+industria+orbea%22+eibar&btnG=Search+Images

Don't assume a foreign handgun is chambered in an American caliber.

http://republicanos.bravehost.com/ORBEAHNOS38SPL.jpg

http://armsbid.com/ks7pix/7tl-061.jpg

http://nolasco.free.fr/images_neutra/Revolver%2092%20Esp.%20Orbea%20Eibar%20005.jpg

Without a photo that's the best I can do.

Dutch