300+ grain mould for 44 mag

[paraord]

Hey everyone. Looking for a big boolit mould for my 44, and my next rifle purchase a 444 marlin.
I guess I'm just looking for a new toy to pour lead into and push out of the SBH occasionally. And get ready for the 444 that will hopefully come my way after harvest time.

Thoughts?

[nockhunter]

How about the Lee 310g? I have one you can use, I removed the gas check groove.

Mike
P.S. I still haven't got my Rossi lever gun back yet.

[kungfustyle]

Get the gun and slug the barrel. If you get a Rossi expect it to be large. I got a .433 fn from NOE and have 5 rounds touching at 75 yards using Win Large primers and H110. The boolit weighs out at 300g or so but man what a performance out of a little 92.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=37_204&osCsid=0uhhr4jvu5cvvoq8pk0a4eqpt2
cycles great and right on the money.
http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ for load data

[dkf]

The Mihec 305gr mold for .44/.444 would be good. It has 3 crimp grooves so you can adjust COAL.

[Deep Six]

Keep in mind that the 444's generally have tight throats and like short noses. SBH on the other hand can really take advantage of a nose up to about 0.45" in length.

[Shuz]

MP-433-300HP works well in all my magnum .44's and 444XLR Marlin.

[paraord]

How about the Lee 310g? I have one you can use, I removed the gas check groove.

Mike
P.S. I still haven't got my Rossi lever gun back yet.

That would be awesome! ill shoot you a PM in a little bit here. How long have they had your Rossi, the fit and finish better be phenomenal. Thats disheartening, hopefully they get it back to you soon!


Get the gun and slug the barrel. If you get a Rossi expect it to be large. I got a .433 fn from NOE and have 5 rounds touching at 75 yards using Win Large primers and H110. The boolit weighs out at 300g or so but man what a performance out of a little 92.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=37_204&osCsid=0uhhr4jvu5cvvoq8pk0a4eqpt2
cycles great and right on the money.
http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ for load data

Planning on a pre-microgroove Marlin 444 lever gun. At least Im told its pre-micro groove. Wont know till the fella comes in just after harvest time. He apparently works at a vegetable farm and doesnt get out much till after that.
I also have a R92 but it shoots .429's well without leading. Might have just gotten real lucky. One of these days a set of pin gauges is in my future.


The Mihec 305gr mold for .44/.444 would be good. It has 3 crimp grooves so you can adjust COAL.

Added to the list!


Keep in mind that the 444's generally have tight throats and like short noses. SBH on the other hand can really take advantage of a nose up to about 0.45" in length.

Didnt know that, 444 will be brand new to me and I dont know anyone who has one. But then again I didnt know anyone who reloads and casts before I started either. Thanks for the info!

[paraord]

MP-433-300HP works well in all my magnum .44's and 444XLR Marlin.

Also added to the list! thank you sir. A dual purpose mould is always a good thing. Thats exactly the type of mould purpose I am looking for. Ive never played with a 444 and Im sure its overkill for what I am doing but if I can share moulds and give myself a little more versitility why not? If I had a 45 colt I would be asking the same question about a 45-70. Might even do that pair one day too.

[dkf]

Also added to the list! thank you sir. A dual purpose mould is always a good thing. Thats exactly the type of mould purpose I am looking for. Ive never played with a 444 and Im sure its overkill for what I am doing but if I can share moulds and give myself a little more versitility why not? If I had a 45 colt I would be asking the same question about a 45-70. Might even do that pair one day too.

Shuz and I are referring to the same mold. I believe Mihec had a different name on the blocks over the years. On that bullet the top crimp groove is for the .444marlin.

Here is the most recent group buy of that mold that I am aware of. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?217607-Mihec-305gr-44mag-444marlin-2-cav-brass-cramer

[nockhunter]

They had my gun since April 2015, they said I will be getting a new one soon. They told me it would be three weeks to get my new one, that was a month ago.

Mike

send me a pm, I don't live too far from you. we can work something out

remember this post
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?308656-Looks-like-my-Rossi-92-44-will-shoot-cast-alright!

[Groo]

Groo here
I might suggest trying some commercial heavy bullets and then get one that is similar.
For me , the SSK 320gr "Ramslammer" .
You can get the bullets from Penn to try, if the gun likes , then get the mold [NEI]

[gnostic]

I'm waiting for the feeling in my right hand to come back, before I shoot anymore 300+ grain bullets from my 44magnums.

[mold maker]

300 grain at mag speeds in a SRH did a number on my elbow. A BH would be even worse.
Do you really need that abuse? I hope you're at least using it on big game, and not just killing paper.

[Leadmelter]

NOE makes a version of the SSK 300 gr bullet. This the same style bullet that the late Larry Kelly took two elephants with. 19 grs of 296 and you have a whole lot of thumping power.
Leadmelter
MI

[dkf]

NOE makes a version of the SSK 300 gr bullet. This the same style bullet that the late Larry Kelly took two elephants with. 19 grs of 296 and you have a whole lot of thumping power.
Leadmelter
MI

That is news to me. There was 4 pages of talking about it on the NOE forum but it never went anywhere as far as I know.

[44man]

Have to remember the first Marlin .444's were 1 in 38". They had so many complaints they changed to 1 in 20" for the heavy boolits. It is still a problem with the .44's unless Rem is smarter.

[44MAG#1]

The bullet Larry Kelly used was the 320 JDJ. I have one of the molds NEI made for JD to sell through SSK As Jones owned the cherry.
This mold was BEFORE the version with two crimp grooves.
JD recommended 21.5 gr of W296 and a CCI 350 primer. This with the original 320JDJ. The late Kent Lomont did the pressure testing of JD's load.
The original bullet was the one Kelly used.

[44man]

The load was perfect but the Fed 150 will cut groups a huge amount. I had that boolit mold one time. came out too small, sent it back and the lapped mold had no GG's to speak of left. Had less then Lee TL.

[DougGuy]

There was a group buy for an improved version of the Lee 310 that had better crimp grooves, and a better fitting gas check shank. It was offered in .432" and .434" it may have even had 3 crimp grooves so it could be seated deeper for a levergun. That boolit would be a good choice and I happen to like gas checks on the 310 as it allows the use of a softer alloy, a better hunting boolit maybe, depending on which school of wound channel you subscribe to.

C430-310-RF cast 50/50+2% with Felix lube will take to the Ruger barrel's rifling and twist like a duck to water. Does in mine anyway.. 1180~1200fps out of a 7 1/2" SBH from 17.0gr H2400 which is not a max load by any means but shoots great and never clean the bore, never needs it.

[Groo]

Groo here
44mag#1 I have the original SSK 357/205gc,41/295,44/320,454/340and a 454/270.
All shoot well and drive deep.
They just don't like light loads. [need to spin up]

[trapper9260]

Today I shot some Lee 310 in my Redhawk and Yes i know it and I got it close to where i want it. now I will load some to shoot in my Marlin and see how the load is with that.if it is better in the Marlin I will just use it in that.

[DougGuy]

Might have to seat deeper in the upper crimp groove for the rifle to feed them.

I think it is W.R. Buchanan a member here that uses the same Lee RF booilt in his levergun, he put a slight chamfer on the bottom 2/3 of the rear most shoulder of the chamber/barrel to help the big flat fronted boolit feed. His is .45 Colt which is a bit bigger than the .44 caliber 310 RF, as usual YMMV!

[trapper9260]

Might have to seat deeper in the upper crimp groove for the rifle to feed them.

I think it is W.R. Buchanan a member here that uses the same Lee RF booilt in his levergun, he put a slight chamfer on the bottom 2/3 of the rear most shoulder of the chamber/barrel to help the big flat fronted boolit feed. His is .45 Colt which is a bit bigger than the .44 caliber 310 RF, as usual YMMV! Thank you for letting me know, I was not thinking of that.I am glad you let me know before I did load some.Now i know what to do.Thank you again.

[trapper9260]

Might have to seat deeper in the upper crimp groove for the rifle to feed them.

I think it is W.R. Buchanan a member here that uses the same Lee RF booilt in his levergun, he put a slight chamfer on the bottom 2/3 of the rear most shoulder of the chamber/barrel to help the big flat fronted boolit feed. His is .45 Colt which is a bit bigger than the .44 caliber 310 RF, as usual YMMV!

I had a round left and did what you stated and I am right on in the marlin. Thank you

[paraord]

Thanks for the input everyone, keep it coming!
The reason for me to cast over 300 is 2 fold. 1, yes I am hunting big game (whitetail and yes I know this is overkill) and 2, I havent done it yet.
My 265 grain keiths at 1400fps are a 2 handed shot but it really is a pleasure to shoot. I want to see what else I can do.

nockhunter is letting me use his lee 310 mould that has the GC removed. Looking forward to shooting those as my 1st venture into the 300 grainers. Im sure it wont be the last. The only thing I have cast for the 44 is 429421 and 429244 so id like to expand my options. Not that I dont love them, just want to try some other things too. Especially as I get ready for the 444 in the future.