Hold Onto 410 Shells?

[ArrowJ]

My Dad has a 410 shotgun. Would it be wise to collect the shells I find at the range or is loading for 410 not common practice?

If so how do I tell if they are worthy as I do not load shot shells at present?

I found twenty four 2½" shells and six 3" shells today. They are all marked Super X HS. The first picture shows a sample. A few look like the two on the left that appear different (maybe worn?) at the mouth. Most appear like the two on the right.

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[skeettx]

Yes, keep all you find, separate them and save them and then one day ....
Good find
Mike

[corbinace]

While there are some that do load for the 410, if you do not currrently, you may never. I see many shotgun hulls on our range all of the time. They get damaged by the sun pretty quickly. Reloading shotgun is not very economical and you need specific components for each hull. (unless you are going Holy Black, slugs or something else in the weeds.)

I am a terrible horder and have quite a few 10 & 12 ga hulls that I shot, but I do not keep them anymore. I have to keep asking myself why I keep these around. Someday, my kids will likely ask the same question. Think of your family before hording 410s.:kidding:

[corbinace]

I see Skeet and I were typing at the same time and are diametrically opposed. Maybe it is just that I am in a minimizing mode around my house after seeing a few older relatives pass in the last few months.

[RPRNY]

Yes and those are all reloadable. However, shot shell loading is very component specific. You will need to match hulls with wads, charges and loads in very specific formulae. 410 is quite easy to load for in the sense that it is the least pressure sensitive, but shot shell reloading is quite a different art than metallic reloading. 410 and 28 ga are, economically, the most worth reloading for. Anyway, yes, keep hulls. Most will be good for at least one reloading.

[toallmy]

Keep them , and get a 410 . You can load them with a nail almost . Get a sack of clay wads and have a blast . 410 ,16 , 10 will still save you money loading . A new Mossberg pump is around 350 or a old single , it's a lot of shooting in a 25 pound sack at a 1/2 oz .

[ArrowJ]

Well now I will pick up every one I find...and probably end up leaving them to my kids as suggested :) Actually, my father in law has a 16 guage and I want to load for it some day as well so hopefully it will happen. Thank you!

[toallmy]

I can't help it , I had a lot of fun as a kid with a shotgun (squirrel safari ) . I'd mow your lawn for a paper tube of BBs when I was a kid .

[toallmy]

Lee load all 16 gage midway u s a 56 bucks .

[victorfox]

I save all the hulls i find even in gauges i don't own. You never know what you can put your hands on the future or what will happen for that matter.

The hull you showed looks like they were fired in some judge. See the ridge marks about the middle (sort of a ring). You keep them and reload for cheap. You don't even need tools. You can glue an over shot card and you re good to go. Data is plenty in America and components are cheap... I've been loading 5/16-3/8oz shot over 6-7gr of fast burning powder with good results and reasonable patterns at close range (max about 20yds), using homemade cards and generic wads. If you want to try your hand on reloading shotshells get some powder manufacturer brochure online buy the components in the recipe and stick to it.

You don't need a press for it this will do the trick and even less than that.
http://beforeitsnews.com/self-sufficiency/2013/10/homemade-410-reloading-kit-2463934.html

Best

[ArrowJ]

That looks like fun!

[skeettx]

P.S. If you are crafty, you can load 410s with 444 Marlin dies and a few other items, crimp starter, ram to seat primers, hammer to hammer ram, 2X4 etc :)

[turtlezx]

best 1 to load for-- factory shells are running $11 to $16 for 25 shells
1/2 the shot of 12ga and cost 2x as much ????????????

[victorfox]

If loading fails you can make crafts... :kidding:

172296

My 410 key ring...

[Smoke4320]

Yes save them . They take up little space and are more expensive than 12ga to purchase
Easy to load and fun to shoot

[Cowboy_Dan]

The shells on the left look like they were roll crimped. I'd bet that if the ink on them is still legible it will say they were loaded with 1/4 or 1/5 oz slugs originally. I would reload all of the pictured ones as long as the inside looks good.

[rking22]

Would you pick up quarters if someone left them laying in the grass? That's about what good 410 hulls are worth! If you get tired of keeping them just put an add on the swapping and selling, I'll be along shortly. As said before 410s and 28s are well worth reloading, 12s and 20 not so much. Now if you want to shoot a 16ga you best plan to load for it, not many stores smart enough to stock ammo and it's right pricy too.
Everybody needs a nice little 410 :)

[victorfox]

The shells on the left look like they were roll crimped. I'd bet that if the ink on them is still legible it will say they were loaded with 1/4 or 1/5 oz slugs originally. I would reload all of the pictured ones as long as the inside looks good.

Dan good point. But the 00 and 000 buck as well as some specialty are also roll crimped.

Here in Brazil all shells are worth reloading... all ammo is damn expensive!

[W.R.Buchanan]

All the hulls you show are the good ones. Winchester AA's and 3" are the best .410 hulls out there, and they normally go for .15-.25 ea for Once Fired ones.

When I started shooting my Browning .410 O/U I bought 1000 O/F hulls off Trapshooters.com along with a Pacific DL266 loader. I can load a box of hulls in about 15 minutes and the cost is about $3.50. New ones are $12.50 + per box at Walmart and more elsewhere.

A bag of shot will do 800 rounds, and the 8lb jug of H110 that I bought will last forever at 16 gr a pop.(3500 rounds.)

The only hulls that are "not that economical" to reload are 12 ga. but even those are gaining strength as Winchester Universals are now nearly $6 a box at Walmart and Winchester AA are more like $9 per box. I can load a box of 12 ga in less than 5 minutes on my Dillon SL900 and the cost is about $3.50 per box, so the savings are there.

None of this matters if you are only going to shoot a box or so of shells per year. If you shoot Trap, Skeet, or Sporting Clays where you normally shoot 10 boxes in one day, then a day at the range costs you $35 instead of $60-90. If you do this with any regularity you can see how it would add up.

I pretty much only shoot reloaded ammo in every gun I have, mainly because I like making it and it gives me a sense of accomplishment to use ammo I made in my shop. I even cast my own boolits like many here,,, since the name of this site is Cast Boolits.com!

As far as those .410 hulls go I'd grab everyone I saw laying on the ground. Mind you if they aren't Winchester Hulls they are probably made of "Leaverite" as in "Leaver right where you found it!"

Randy

[richhodg66]

About five years ago, I picked up about a shoebox of .410 hulls on a range and didn't have a .410. Passed them along on the pay it forward thread here. Since then, I inherited a rather nice little Iver Johnson .410. I think I am going to get some brass hulls and start loading for it, the price of factory .410 shells is ridiculous!

[9.3X62AL]

I load 28 gauge and 410 bore shotshells A LOT.

W-W Super-X 410 x 3" are best of breed, they get 11/16 oz of #9s and whack doves to 35 yards pretty well. The claysporters use the 2-1/2" shells a lot more than the 3". I just bought a little Mossback/Western Field a few months ago, and it will be my Dove Opener armament on 9/1 this year.

The 28 gauge is the best kept secret of upland bird hunting, due to its extreme pattern efficiency. 3/4 oz of #7-1/2 or #9 are my usual loads, and I have some Cheedite hulls and wads stored someplace that enable use of 1 oz of shot.

[izzyjoe]

I grab every hull I can get, call me a hoarder, but I stick them back. I have loaded a few of them as discussed in the link, but just to say I can do it. .410 is expensive to buy, but I rarely shoot mine any more. But it all boils down to how much you are going to shoot, just a few boxes a year and you are better off buying them.

[Greg S]

Richhodg66: keep us abreast of how those brass cases hold up. I just moved here and there is alot of quail here. Pefect oppertunity for a 410 and 28 gauge.

I shot skeet rather heavily and have a large collection of 410 hulls in all varieties, factory new, once fired, and some 2-3 x winnie AA. The old Remington ribbed hulls were only good for 2-3 loads before the hull would seperate right at the end of the brass head and become a whistler. While trying to improve my small bore game, I did alot of patterning and discovered part of the reason for shrinking score, with each reload, the cases got weaker resulting in a smaller pattern by an 1" - 2" with each loading using the same receipe. I adapted the habit of using factory or occassionally once fired hulls for compitition when shooting registered targets.

[bangerjim]

410's are fun. You can shoot them in a long gun and the many different Judge revolvers (not in all states). I shoot them in 2 revolvers and a Circuit Judge revolver long gun.

I do not reload them. But some do.

[9.3X62AL]

Greg S--

I am not a fan of the R-P ribbed 410 hulls either. They don't hold a crimp worth beans, and are more trouble than they are worth. I have about 75 of them left, and they will get their last emptying on clay birds very soon in pre-season warm-ups. Good riddance.

[Rustyleee]

I'm a hopeless scrounge. I've tried to teach my son, Brass is like gold. Always save it.

[victorfox]

Heck I don't make jackets but keep even some 22lr... You just never know... These days I had another brain fart ops idea and am going to fill some of these 22s with molten lead to see it they make a certain .410 slug I got more front heavy...