Carl Gustav chopper value

[frkelly74]

I have seen a old Carl Gustav Swede that someone chopped into a deer rifle for sale. It has an old antique looking peep site and a ramped front sight and is counter bored. The stock is shortened so there is no restoration potential there. The asking price is $199.95 and I think I may have heard it say buy me, but I am not certain of it. i wonder if the price is out of line and so am posting this for general reaction.

[Preacher Jim]

I never met one that did not shoot well

[RPRNY]

As per Preacher. If it isn't hideous and provided the crown and bore are okay, they shoot brilliantly and make great rifles for everything for devastating paper to predators, hawgs, black bear and deer.

[Wayne Smith]

$200 + Boyd's stock = is it worth it to me? Only you can answer the question.

[Mk42gunner]

I was nodding my head thinking "sounds good" until I got to the counter bored part. I have no idea what constitutes a good price for a bubba'd Swede these days; but a counter bored 6.5x55 raises all kinds of red flags to me.

Robert

[higgins]

Do some research and find out the barrel length of an M38 Swede. Carl Gustav manufacture would indicate that it was originally an M96, however, the Swedes converted a lot of M96s to M38 (also called 96/38 by importers and dealers). If the barrel is M38 length, and the crown looks old, it may have been cut down by the Swedish military. Even if the barrel is M38 length the counterbore, as mentioned above, raises questions.

[izzyjoe]

I've turned many a bubba rifle into nice rifles, I would pay that for the action if it was sound! I wouldn't do it, but I knew a gunsmith that chambered a few of them in 243,and 6mm, cause he loved that caliber.

[Jeff Michel]

If it's an FSR peep sight, it's worth close to what he's asking for the whole rifle. Here's what one looks like. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/571065228

[lefty o]

if oyu like it, and it appears well done $200 or so is a fair price. seems like people want to associate the short barrel as a swedish done thing, and while that is not impossible, the swedes never counterbored barrels.

[RPRNY]

It just occurred to me that the description of the rifle may very well be wrong. The alleged "counter boring" may in fact refer to the barrel extension or false muzzle that the importer, generally Century Arms, put on the 1894 carbines they imported in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Before the 1968 Gun Control Act, the minimum barrel length for a rifle was 18". The Model 1894 Carbine had a 17.5" barrel, so the importer put an extension on the barrel to comply with US law. I have one so done. If the seller were unfamiliar with this rather odd little regulatory strangeness, referring to the barrel as "counter bored" would be quite natural. The barrel extension has no impact whatsoever on accuracy. Or if it does, my rifle could be sub 0.5 MOA ;-)

[17nut]

Since "Carl Gustavs Gevärs Faktori" made rifles since at least the late 1600's maybe a caliber/model designation will help you further!
A 1867 in 12,7x44 will fetch a different price than a 8mm M1889 or a 6,5x55 wether it be a 1894 or a 1938 or a 1941.
Not to mention the 1860 Vredes rifle or older rifles.

[Yodogsandman]

Mine is counter bored and will keep 5, 140 gr Speer or Nosler jacketed bullet shots in a nickel at 100 yards. My barrel was cut to 16 1/2" and was probably counter bored to remove pitting at the end of the barrel while keeping it long enough to be legal. Mine came with scope mounts, turned down handle, sporter stock and a Timney Featherweight Deluxe trigger and cost $155.00 (30 years ago). Talked the dealer down to $145.00 since I bought a shotgun, too.

[frkelly74]

Hopefully I can go take another look Friday evening. It is a 6.5X55 unless someone has changed the chambering. The false muzzle is something I will definitely look at. Thanks to all who chimed in.

[Dutchman]

It just occurred to me that the description of the rifle may very well be wrong. The alleged "counter boring" may in fact refer to the barrel extension or false muzzle that the importer, generally Century Arms, put on the 1894 carbines they imported in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Before the 1968 Gun Control Act, the minimum barrel length for a rifle was 18". The Model 1894 Carbine had a 17.5" barrel, so the importer put an extension on the barrel to comply with US law. I have one so done. If the seller were unfamiliar with this rather odd little regulatory strangeness, referring to the barrel as "counter bored" would be quite natural. The barrel extension has no impact whatsoever on accuracy. Or if it does, my rifle could be sub 0.5 MOA ;-)

Most likely the correct observation.

Get the serial number and I can identify if a m/94 carbine or m/96 rifle. Carbines have their own serial number range.

Dutch

[frkelly74]

here are some pics, 172437172438172439172440172441172442

[frkelly74]

and some more172443 chopped off stock. just right for the boy, butt ugly.172444172445

The bore is bright and the muzzle looks good way down in there.The "counter bore" is in fact a sleeve that was used to lengthen the barrel. The stock is shortened at the butt and I may be in the market for another one at some point. I have pictured the rear sight for those interested.

[Mk42gunner]

That looks like it is worth $200 to me. Too bad the stock was molested.

Unless I am wrong, it appears to me that is one of the 1894 Carbines.

The aperture sight looks very useable to me, especially if you are a one load per gun type of person.

Robert

[frkelly74]

JV 42195 is the serial on the receiver. the bolt does not match.

[Yodogsandman]

That would make an awesome truck gun with just a recoil pad added! Or...a light recoiling first rifle for a young one, that's what mine became!

[RPRNY]

That was an 1894 carbine, poor thing. It'll be a shooter.

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[Dutchman]

JV 42195 is the serial on the receiver. the bolt does not match.

It was made in 1907.


Dutch

[rondog]

Heck, I'd buy almost ANY gun for $200! Almost. But I don't think I'd hesitate on that one.

[frkelly74]

So I guess the next stop is Shantz Tire and Gun store in Otsego. They have had good deals on powder and brass in the past. If they have 6.5X55 brass I may get some to augment my supply. I have 8 lb of Herco still which was a good powder for cast in my other Swede.