Most accurate 22LR

[bigted]

Well here is a oldy but goodie.

What is the most accurate off the shelf rifle today?

[M-Tecs]

Take your pick

http://www.eurooptic.com/anschutz-rifles.aspx

http://www.walthercompetition.com/products/target-rifles/kk300-alutec/

For cost verse value the CZ's are hard to beat. Same for the Sako Quad when it was cheap but the prices have gone way up.

[Hogdaddy]

For the $$$ Savage JMO ; )
H/D

[bangerjim]

Anything you got...........if you can find the ammo to shoot in it!

I moved on to light-loading other cals (9/30/38/45) for my long guns rather than paying 10-12 cents a round for stupid 22LR's.

[WebMonkey]

vintage Remington 510,511(my all time fav),512,513(spiffy).
there has to be some on a shelf somewhere right?
:)
'monkey

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Well I would put my CZ 455 up towards the top shelf

[kayala]

CZ would get my vote.

[Ickisrulz]

Anything you got...........if you can find the ammo to shoot in it!

I moved on to light-loading other cals (9/30/38/45) for my long guns rather than paying 10-12 cents a round for stupid 22LR's.

If my memory is correct, the premium 22 LR hasn't really increased that much in price. I usually use SK Standard Plus in my CZ452 and it is available for about $60 per 500 rounds. I think I was paying $45 a few years ago. When I only shoot about 10 rounds a day (backyard) it really hasn't effected me too much.

[dtknowles]

I have an Anschutz and a Savage/Anschutz clone and they are both awesome with great triggers.

Tim

[DSRichert]

My Winchester 52D

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[w5pv]

I had a Remmy 521 clone that was the most accurate .22 that I have owned.

[1Hawkeye]

Modern.22 Cz 452 old school.22 BSA Martini.

[spfd1903]

Mossberg M44 "Property of U.S. Government"

[lefty o]

accurate current production off the shelf rifle, your looking at a cooper or an anshutz.

[Greg S]

Alot of 22 lr accurracy is in the ammo. Take a match grade gun and shoot golden boolits through it and it'll be beat by an entry level xyz shooting ammo matched to it. Its a **** shoot but there are a few consistant performers out there if you have the coin. For the DIY guy, a 10-22 is a great platform.

[dtknowles]

accurate current production off the shelf rifle, your looking at a cooper or an anshutz.

Don't forget the Savage made Anschutz.

Tim

[10 ga]

Anything you got...........if you can find the ammo to shoot in it!

I moved on to light-loading other cals (9/30/38/45) for my long guns rather than paying 10-12 cents a round for stupid 22LR's.

I can shoot my MLs and SMLs way cheaper than a 22LR. And don't have to load "ammo". AND get way more "BANG" for the $. And it slows the kids down from burning through $150 in ammo in an afternoon.

Currently all my RF ammo is dedicated to real hunting/trapline use or "hoarding" in prep for the 2016 election and 1/20/17 swearing ceremony for POTUS and resultant shortage of everything firearms related. I will not be caught short again like 08.

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[mozeppa]

my savage anschutz i paid $125.00 for.....












in 1971:bigsmyl2:

[Doc Highwall]

I have several Anschutz's a Winchester 52C and a Remington 40X for match bolt guns.

[bigted]

Anything you got...........if you can find the ammo to shoot in it!

I moved on to light-loading other cals (9/30/38/45) for my long guns rather than paying 10-12 cents a round for stupid 22LR's.
I do indeed have both a 10-22 as well as a 22/45 ruger but in hindsight I have not been up on the situation concerning both availability and cost of the 22lr ammo.

I also can load and cast my boolits. Just reminiscing on days gone by and wanted to experience those days again.

I would be hard pressed to pay anything more than what I can load for.

[snowwolfe]

accurate current production off the shelf rifle, your looking at a cooper or an anshutz.

Bingo. Have owned Anschutz, Coopers, and Kimbers (now out of production). As well as CZ's and Savages. So now if you are looking for a currently made sporter its either Anschutz or Cooper. CZ's are good, but still not as capable as the other 2.

[Bigslug]

Well here is a oldy but goodie.

What is the most accurate off the shelf rifle today?

Anschutz, Walther, Feinwerkbau, Grunig & Elminger. . .you didn't ask how HIGH the shelf was. We've got the Rio Olympics kicking off here soon - tune in and see what the TRUE nerds are shooting.

[Petrol & Powder]

Available as new today ? Well that puts a damper on things. Anschutz is still making good rifles as far as I can tell but I haven't put my hands on one recently. The CZ's really are good rifles. An acquaintance has both an old Anschutz and a CZ and I have to say that they are both incredibly accurate.
Now, if I could open that criteria up to include some out of production rifles, .....the list would get a lot longer.

[Doc Highwall]

This is my Anschutz that I use for the Tuesday night prone league, 40 shots for record. The first picture is with iron sights and long bloop tube, and the second picture is with the scope mounted and both short and long bloop tubes on the bench. I use the short bloop tube with the scope. If you look you can see a barrel tuner on both bloop tubes.
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[Forrest r]

For the most accurate new off the shelf 22lr rifles today I'd be looking at:

Top shelf/high $$$
Anschutz
Remington custom shop
Cooper

Low $$$:
Cz's
Savages
Custom 10-22's

[John Boy]

Very interesting but not supportive of the most accurate: Plenty of makes and models but ... Not One Target to support accuracy! Therefore - so far this thread is worthless!

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Of course a great many claims are made on line which are not strictly factual. Not on this thread of course. I mean all those other threads. But pictures? If somebody was prepared to do that, why wouldn't be prepared to shoot his group from a bit closer than he says, instead?

[snowwolfe]

Very interesting but not supportive of the most accurate: Plenty of makes and models but ... Not One Target to support accuracy! Therefore - so far this thread is worthless!

OP never asked to see targets. So your post is worthless.

[lefty o]

OP never asked to see targets. So your post is worthless.
amen!

[pressonregardless]

My CZ 455 is the most accurate 22 that I've ever owned, also have a 77/22 that isn't far behind it.

[Doc Highwall]

Here is a link to Anschutz world records.

http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=38&sprache=1

[1066]

Walther (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Walther+22LR+Target+Rifle&view=detailv2&&id=E5F5AD2B3459808921B29CC6A5D8271918B632A6&selectedIndex=10&ccid=q9XhgEHj&simid=608001614547062518&thid=OIP.Mabd5e18041e32b6706e5d15be8ac795eo0&ajaxhist=0)

Feinwerkbau (https://www.feinwerkbau.de/en/Sporting-Weapons/Small-Bore-Rifles/Model-2700-Alu)

Bleiker (http://www.pardiniguns.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=20&products_id=999&osCsid=c0joas2du0o45100j7m96fp6f2) ($9,000)

I have a Sako Finnfire S94 with a Lilja match barrel that shoots very well, but unfortunately no longer made.

[sparky45]

Most accurate, in my hands, is my 514 single shot Remy.

[1980Harley]

Take a look at what the USA National Smallbore Team members are shooting. They need the most accurate rifles for international competitions and the Olympics.

[waco]

I like my Kimber 22 Hunter

[buckweet]

Hands down.
With ArrowDodgers trigger.
A marlin model 60.
Or any of the old glenfields.
I kid you not. Superbly accurate.
Out shoots my remington 34 and CZ 452 American.
On par with my thousand dollar KIDD ruger 10/22.-- and the remington 541T
Yes. I like the model 60s :)

[abunaitoo]

Anschutz would seem to be the top, but it needs ammo that it likes.
Others can sometimes shoot as well, but again with ammo it ikes.

[sunburn]

Don't forget the Savage made Anschutz.

Tim

Savage imported Anschutz, never made them. They are marked Savage-Anschutz and have different model #s than a comparable Anschutz.

[Scharfschuetze]

Well, you can't buy these new anymore and they won't shoot with the German match rifles, but sometimes "old school" is still kind of cool. I've used this Model 52 (Circa 1931) on our Monday evening 100 yard small bore prone shoots as well as dispatching prairie dogs from time to time. The Unertl is on it now, but it comes off and there is a flip up rear aperture match sight under it.

The military rifles are also in .22 LR and are both fun to shoot and quite accurate.

The Norma .22LR Match ammo currently available will give Eley 10X a run for its money for accuracy. The Model 52 loves the stuff.

[Blackwater]

In a way, this has always been a real trick question. Are we talking about the barrel's intrinsic accuracy, or are we factoring in the trigger, sights, and fit of gun to shooter? If it's just the barrel's intrinsic accuracy, then it might indeed be an old gun like the 514 mentioned. If all the other factors are factored in, and we want a "breaking glass" trigger pull with no overtravel, just the right weight and wt. distribution, and perfect fit to the shooter, then the 514's out, very obviously.

So it's all according to what you have, and what ammo you've been able to try to get it to shoot up to its full potential, and what you want to do with it. If it's just a mess of squirrels or small game, most any .22 that hasn't been abused and has a decent barrel crown might do the trick rather handily. If you're shooting for the nation's pride and reputation, then you want all the bells and whisteles.

Biggest trick to finding a really accurate .22 is finding what ammo it likes best. It can't be reloaded, so it's a matter of finding the right ammo, and then laying in a couple of cases of it if you want to punch the X our of the X-ring. Do that, via trial and error, and your cheapie squirrel gun may well be as intrinsically accurate as those finely appointed "match" guns. They're just harder to shoot accurately, especially from the normal target positions. That's really the only truly significant difference, at least pretty often.

[ohiochuck]

The most accurate rifles in .22 LR that I have owned and shot are two customized Winchester model 52Cs using both SK subsonic HPs and SK high velocity HPs. Both have Lilja barrels and were smithed by Gordy Gritters.
An off the shelf Marlin 80DL surprised me when testing various ammo by producing very accurate groups at 50 yds.
The Winchester 52s always follow me into the squirrel woods.

Jim

[Doc Highwall]

I have seen where some 22's shot great at 25-50 yards but start to fall apart at 75 yards, and complete fails at 100 yards.

One thing I always do now with my 22's is a torque test on the bedding screws, starting at 10-15 inch lbs. and work up in 5 inch lb. increments to 35-40 inch lbs max for a wood stock. This directly affects barrel vibrations which affects accuracy.

[jhaston]

I don't know about today's rifles but I have a Remington Nylon 66 that is one of the best shooting guns I have and it will feed and shoot any cheap 22 shells I put in it without a hiccup.

[leebuilder]

Never really seen a bad 22, just ones with issues, ejection and feeding.
I like my russian vostok CM2 simple and accurate next up anyone of my cooeys m39, m75 and m82 all fantastic shooters, super simple and easy to maintain. Good consistent ammo will always give good or better results.

[Lead pot]

I will put my CPA 44-1/2 .22 Stevens up against any listed. :D
I love this rifle :D

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/1b294e7b-08b5-43aa-87c3-6b8089da8c52_zpsim9ouqgv.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/1b294e7b-08b5-43aa-87c3-6b8089da8c52_zpsim9ouqgv.jpg.html)

5 shots sitting on a bucket at 50 yards off cross sticks using empty factory primed .22 cases loaded with 4F black powder. No cleaning between shots fired.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_1492_zps48bjk5bv.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/940Leadpot/media/IMG_1492_zps48bjk5bv.jpg.html)

Shot a indoor 25 yd match wrist rest allowed.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/Kurtalt/76b21b6f-e282-4b91-9b3f-204eef3395ce_zpsritsrmvn.jpg (http://s704.photobucket.com/user/Kurtalt/media/76b21b6f-e282-4b91-9b3f-204eef3395ce_zpsritsrmvn.jpg.html)

[Blackwater]

Wow! What a beautiful rifle and great shooting, Lead Pot! Those guns really stir my passions!

One other factor I've been wondering about: TC Contender barrels, I once read, have a 1:15" twist rather than the std. 1:16". I haven't tried to measure my pistol or rifle barrels in this caliber, but they sure do shoot like a house afire! And they've done it very consistently from gun to gun in my moderate experience with them. Can't help but wonder if the slightly faster twist might be a factor in this trend I've noticed?

Can anyone verify the twist of the TC barrels being 1:15" rather than the std. 1:16"? I've long thought I've noticed a tendency for milder rounds to be more sensitive to twist rates than faster, more powerful rounds, especially when any distance is involved. Anyone know about these factors?

[dverna]

The top shooters in the world will use the most accurate rifles. Now, 99.999% of us will never be able to tell the difference, or justify the cost.

My M52 and Anchutz are far better than I can shoot and neither are stupid expensive. But the reality is that nowadays I cannot even outshoot my custom 10/22. Old age sucks.

When I shot on the Univeristy team, I used an old BSA Martini. It was a great gun...not sure if it was a fluke or if they all shot that well.

[OnHoPr]

I will put my CPA 44-1/2 .22 Stevens up against any listed. :D
I love this rifle :D

Shot a indoor 25 yd match wrist rest allowed.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/Kurtalt/76b21b6f-e282-4b91-9b3f-204eef3395ce_zpsritsrmvn.jpg (http://s704.photobucket.com/user/Kurtalt/media/76b21b6f-e282-4b91-9b3f-204eef3395ce_zpsritsrmvn.jpg.html)


Good shooting, obviously. While looking at the targets I noticed something and a ponderance came over me. They are all about the same size group. It was indoor, so there should not have been any real wind or drastic drafts. The groups were in many o'clock positions on the bull and around it. Now was this caused by eye/sight or body fatigue or something else?

[Lead pot]

Tnx. Blackwater.
That CPA started out being a two barrel rifle, a .22 RF and a .44-75 Ballard. The .22 shot so well so it made me order a second rifle so I didn't want to take a chance of it getting loose or changing the accuracy. When you have a fine shooter, you don't mess with it.

As far as the TC Contender, I don't have one but I shoot with a friend that has one and he shoots it very well. The rifle is a fine shooter for a break open action. I asked him what the ROT was and what the chamber reamer design TC uses. He said I don't know what the chamber design is but the ROT is 1/15.

[Lead pot]

OnHoPr.

I'm 76 years old and things are starting to fail. I just don't have the upper body strength and a heavy floater in my center vision.
The indoor range is not lit very well and the shooting positions are not where you can get well into position behind the rifle. You fold down a shelf and sit on a bucket or stool but you have to crane your neck to get on the stock comb the way you should. So it could be a number of things, but I think it's mostly brain finger coronation in my case. The two just don't work together to well anymore. :)

[Lead pot]

Here you go Blackwater. I just made a Bing search. :) http://www.eabco.com/TwistRate.htm

[OnHoPr]

Just curious, I think I am starting to get the same symptoms. I think your life expectancy is going to surpass mine.

[Blackwater]

Thanks, Lead Pot. I was sure I'd seen it in print somewhere, and that may well be it. I think (?) I've seen it elsewhere as well, and noted the difference in the usual 1:16" twists, and their consistently fine accuracy, so concluded that the reason for the accuracy must most likely be the faster twist. Those Contender barrels sure do tend to shoot great!

And as to the lighting at the range, if you can install LED lighting, it'd likely brighten things up considerably, and make everything clearer. If they use flourescent, the constant (though invisible) flickering always seems to mess up my sight. It might at least be worth while mentioning it to whoever owns/operates the range. If all that's needed is a bulb change to LED type bulbs, it'd be a real boon to us older guys. I know now what Ben Franklin meant when he referred to "the dimming eyes of old age." But by the time we get this age, we're supposed to be so good that we NEED a little challenge, aren't we? :lol::kidding:

[quail4jake]

Maybe the question should be: What combo rifle and ammo works best for you in a certain circumstance?
For me, my Anschutz 1413 Unertl 20x scoped with RWS R50 is optimal in a collegiate smallbore match but a wee bit cumbersome in a fast moving altercation with squirrels over a pile of ear corn! Which is why I did a trial of many lower cost .22 LR ammo in my Henry repeater with Leupold 2.8 - 8x VX II. The results leaned strongly toward Federal American Eagle HV solid nose, $122 per case (in 2007)...more now. I was very impressed with the performance of this bargain basement combo but I will admit that splurging on the optics was key; at the time that I put this "scabbard carbine" into service the scope cost more than the rifle and a case of ammo.
I can think of other combos but I'd like to hear from other folks about their experiences. Does this include .22 WMR?

[quail4jake]

addendum: a friend of mine with an old Browning auto chambered in .22 short with CCI std. vel. shorts; tackdriver out to 50 yds. Does this include .22 short?

Maybe the question should be: What combo rifle and ammo works best for you in a certain circumstance?
For me, my Anschutz 1413 Unertl 20x scoped with RWS R50 is optimal in a collegiate smallbore match but a wee bit cumbersome in a fast moving altercation with squirrels over a pile of ear corn! Which is why I did a trial of many lower cost .22 LR ammo in my Henry repeater with Leupold 2.8 - 8x VX II. The results leaned strongly toward Federal American Eagle HV solid nose, $122 per case (in 2007)...more now. I was very impressed with the performance of this bargain basement combo but I will admit that splurging on the optics was key; at the time that I put this "scabbard carbine" into service the scope cost more than the rifle and a case of ammo.
I can think of other combos but I'd like to hear from other folks about their experiences. Does this include .22 WMR?

[quail4jake]

addendum again: OK, so now I see...the title of the thread is "most accurate .22 LR". But is it still OK to talk about .22 short or .22 WMR? I mean, just for fun.

addendum: a friend of mine with an old Browning auto chambered in .22 short with CCI std. vel. shorts; tackdriver out to 50 yds. Does this include .22 short?

[Lead pot]

This rifle is a little unusual from the other .22's I have. Most of the Match grade .22 rifles are a little particular what they shoot well. When I got this rifle I ordered several different high end match .22 ammo, some as high as $22. for a box of 50.
This rifle just about will shoot any of the standard velocity very well. What I look for the ammo I use is the vertical I see at 100 or 200 yards on no wind days. When I see the vertical below a inch at 200 yards I know that it will shoot at the distance most matches are shot at.
When the Norma TAC came out I got a brick and it shot very good in this rifle that made me get several bricks when the Norma match came on the market and I still use it. I still have some of the Remington .22 st velocity Target in the green boxes left over from a case I got back in the early 80's and it shoots well despite that the bullets are turning gray and have to be wiped off.

Well I'm drifting off the subject.....Kurt

[Houndog]

I don't know about labeling it as the most accurate 22 out there, but I have a "worked over" CZ 452 varmint I used to shoot factory class Benchrest with at the "chicken house" that won several matches. As for ammo, it likes the Federal Gold Medal ultra match they made for the Olympics best, followed by Federal Gold Metal 900B and Eley black box. Sadly, Federal discontinued both of the Gold Medal offerings and my old eyes won't let me shoot to that level any more. Getting old sure ain't no fun!

[quail4jake]

I feel your pain, brother. Age and treachery will always win out over youth and beauty. That's where we win!

I don't know about labeling it as the most accurate 22 out there, but I have a "worked over" CZ 452 varmint I used to shoot factory class Benchrest with at the "chicken house" that won several matches. As for ammo, it likes the Federal Gold Medal ultra match they made for the Olympics best, followed by Federal Gold Metal 900B and Eley black box. Sadly, Federal discontinued both of the Gold Medal offerings and my old eyes won't let me shoot to that level any more. Getting old sure ain't no fun!

[quail4jake]

Oh, if I may beg your indulgence? With permission, I would like to present the Ruger 77 .22 WMR, leupold 4 -12 VXIII and Hornady Vmax 30 gr that lives in a scabbard mounted to the hood of our JD 5205 loader. Punches a quarter size group at 150 yds....covered with corn silage and bits of cow poo! My son hit a groundhog at over 150 yds. in the mouth with it!...on the 9th shot.

[marlin39a]

What else? A Marlin 39A!

[odfairfaxsub]

My cz455 manlicher got it to touch 4/5 bullets at 40 yards this weekend after shooting 3 groups and getting used to trigger placement. That's w federal auto match