1895 Winchester/Miroku SRC

[HawkCreek]

I've got a Miroku 1895 SRC (one of the 30-06 100 year anniversary editions). How do I remove the saddle ring? I can't find schematics for it anywhere. I assume it's threaded but I dont know that for sure.

[Hickory]

They maybe a pressed rivet design, not meant to be removed.

[HawkCreek]

Well... I didnt really want to hear that! I just received a Providence Tool 21 sight and the saddle ring needs to go before I can install the sight. Had my hopes that that I could outsmart them and just turn it 90 degrees like the originals.

[Hickory]

If you are determined to get it off and have the right tools, it can be done.

[pietro]

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The saddle ring on my Model 1895 Carbine was screwed in - just slide the ring itself so the ring end joints are not near the stud & remove the ring/stud with a 12" crescent wrench.

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[1Hawkeye]

If the piece that is holding the ring to the action looks like a fence staple then it is the pressed in type.

[HawkCreek]

Well I managed to get it out, it was threaded after all. Still have some of the glue or excess thread locker they used to clean off the receiver but I have the threads pretty well cleaned. Thanks for the help everyone!

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh29/HawkCreek_photos/Guns/IMAG1197_zpsgjfdxn3a.jpg

Excited for this little project to start taking shape...

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh29/HawkCreek_photos/Guns/IMAG1198_zps4gmclz1m.jpg

[TXGunNut]

Much like the original 1895, no accommodation for receiver or tang sights. Please keep us posted, if my "new" 1895 works out I'll be needing to mount a peep somehow, somewhere.

[HawkCreek]

Much like the original 1895, no accommodation for receiver or tang sights. Please keep us posted, if my "new" 1895 works out I'll be needing to mount a peep somehow, somewhere.


Are you talking about vintage sights or sights for the Miroku/Winchesters with the tang safeties?
Marbles lists sight base #991025 and screw set #995014 as fitting them.

Mine is just a Providence Tool 21 sight (reproduction of the Lyman 21 that were original).
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Lyman_21_Sight_it-162031.aspx?CAT=4096

I like the look of this sight better than the tang sights on the 95's. I thought I could DIY but turns out I'm to chicken to take on the drilling and tapping on this rifle. Something more common wouldnt bother me but I think this one is headed to a 'smith.

[Drm50]

I unscrewed the ring out of one I had by putting a brass 3/8" piece of round stock through the
ring and backing it out. Saddle rings aggravate me in woods.

[TXGunNut]

Are you talking about vintage sights or sights for the Miroku/Winchesters with the tang safeties?
Marbles lists sight base #991025 and screw set #995014 as fitting them. -HawkCreek

Mine are vintage, 1896 and 1905, IIRC.

[pietro]

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I would respectfully suggest plugging the hole left in the receiver wall, with either a purchased headless plug screw or one made from any machine screw that has the appropriate threading.

For odd holes, I don't bother trying to determine the thread size - I just keep trying various screws (hardware store ?) until I find one that will thread in there, then cut off the tip of the threaded shank to the correct length.

Before cutting to length, I file a thin screwdriver slot in the tip & cold blue it.


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[RPRNY]

Jealous. What a gorgeous rifle. And 30-06 in a Lever Gun? Smashing. Enjoy.

[Wayne Smith]

Much like the original 1895, no accommodation for receiver or tang sights. Please keep us posted, if my "new" 1895 works out I'll be needing to mount a peep somehow, somewhere.

I got mine from BACO. I believe it's a copy of the Lyman, new manufacture but looks the same and works the same. The rifle needs a threaded hole for the front bolt. Mine (Mirkou manufacture) did not have that hole.

[HawkCreek]

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I would respectfully suggest plugging the hole left in the receiver wall, with either a purchased headless plug screw or one made from any machine screw that has the appropriate threading.




I fully intend to! Looks horrible with just a gaping hole, not to mention being a dirt funnel.

[StrawHat]

Much like the original 1895, no accommodation for receiver or tang sights. Please keep us posted, if my "new" 1895 works out I'll be needing to mount a peep somehow, somewhere.

Another option, instead of the climbin Lyman, is any of the Redfield or similar receiver sights. I had a Lyman put on my old 405 WCF. It worked out well.

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Kevin

[pietro]

Much like the original 1895, no accommodation for receiver or tang sights.

if my "new" 1895 works out I'll be needing to mount a peep somehow, somewhere.




Since AFAIK Miroku/Winchesters aren't collectibles, I successfully mounted (D/T) an XS receiver peep sight to the flat/rear top of the bolt on my .405 Model 1895, along with a higher XS White Line front sight blade (which I blacked-out) that they make to replace the issue pinned-in front sight blade.

FWIW, instead of trying the fit the pinhole-less XS sight blade, I opted to simply clamp the new front sight blade in place while I drilled new sight blade with a sacrificial 1/16" drill bit, using the old pin hole as a drilling guide.

I then ground (they're too hard to file) the shank of the sacrificial drill bit, that I used to drill the hole, as the new front sight crosspin (Loc-Tite).


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