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Battis
07-03-2016, 05:14 PM
In an antique shop I saw this ammo pouch in a glass case.
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Inside were 20 .45-70 loaded rounds, stamped "10 87 F" on the head.
Not a bad price. I don't have a 45-70 (I do have a 50-70), but I couldn't leave them behind.
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waarp8nt
07-03-2016, 05:24 PM
Those are the antique shops I love, the ones that sell stuff with character. I hate the antique shops that attempt to sell 70's or 80's **** that wouldn't even sell at a garage sale or auction. Good find!
Battis
07-03-2016, 05:32 PM
This antique shop also has a Smith & Wesson Model 3 that I'm trying to research. They didn't have much info on it.
Yesterday, in a small, out of the way gunshop I found an original .351 Winchester Self Loader magazine and 8 "vintage" rounds for $65. I do have that rifle.
TXGunNut
07-03-2016, 07:07 PM
Nice find. Can't help but wonder about the story behind that piece of history. Pretty well preserved, all things considered.
M-Tecs
07-03-2016, 07:27 PM
The 10 is October and 87 is 1887. Very cool.
Battis
07-03-2016, 07:35 PM
The date on the ammo puts it toward the end of the .45-70s usage. Probably stuffed away and forgotten.
bedbugbilly
07-04-2016, 09:02 AM
Nice find! That McKeever cartridge box is in nice shape as well! I have had several of the McKeever cartridge boxes over the years - still have two. One for the 45-70 but no cartridges. The other McKeever that I have is for the 30-40 Krag and thanks to a fine member on this site, I was able to fill ten of the loops of that one with original 30-40 military issue rounds.

Very nice find - thanks for sharing! A nice Indian Wars period piece!
Battis
07-04-2016, 11:02 AM
On the leather latch is stamped "Watervliet Arsenal". Inside the pouch is stamped "LV ars". I'm trying to find out what arsenal "LV" might be. The closest match that I found is Leavenworth Arsenal, but that closed in 1872.
GOPHER SLAYER
07-04-2016, 01:57 PM
I have several 45-70 rounds marked 4-92-F. My nephew was working at an in door range when someone brought them in for disposal and he brought them to me to dispose of, which of course I did. What!!! You don't believe me. I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
elk hunter
07-04-2016, 02:32 PM
No "C" in the headstamp would indicate rifle rather than carbine loads, i.e. 500 grain rather than the 405 grain bullet. I have one inside primed carbine load dated 1878 also from Frankford Arsenal.
Battis
07-04-2016, 03:41 PM
The cases I have are copper. According to Guy Hildebrand at this site http://www.oldammo.com/index.htm, they switched to tinned brass in 1888. I might pull one apart just to see what the black powder looks like and weigh the bullet.
Battis
07-05-2016, 03:15 PM
All cleaned up and ready for a night out. I don't like to clean away history but corrosion has to go (look at the Before pics). Copper is really a pretty metal. I've been working the leather with a restoration oil.
The LV stamped inside is most likely an inspector's mark.
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