308 soft lead HP subsonic bullet supplier???

[mtnbowhunter]

HI
I posted about this in the" hunting with CB" section but no replies so try here!

for my BOLT ACTION subsonic (950fps) 308 rifle:

looking for a SUPPLIER of soft cast lead HP bullets in the 130 to 190gr that WILL expand at subsonic velocities on coyotes. since this is not in an AR I do not need as heavy of bullets.
any ideas and or experiences with this and supplier info.
I do not want to cast my own.

[Tatume]

You will probably have to go to a custom bullet caster to get soft bullets for your 308 Winchester rifle. You might try some of the vendor members here.

[IraqVet1982]

Are you just trying to dispatch Coyotes?

I don't think expansion on varmint is that big of deal.

IMHO, You're better off with a higher grain bullet carrying more energy. If you hit vitals it'll drop.

[BK7saum]

I have used the MP molds 311410 with deep hollow point pins (~128 grain) and the MP 165 grain hunting mold with large hollow points at subsonic velocities as well as the NOE 311-247 (whisper/blackout bullet). All three will open up on deer/hogs very well when cast with 50% pure lead and 50% wheelweights. I think the 311410 may open up the best as it tapers to a thin cavity at the nose. I have recovered 311410 bullets from wet pack that were completely mushroomed back to the base of the hollow point cavity.

Even with expansion, you will not get bang/flop results unless the CNS is hit. A coyote can and will run a long way with an expanded subsonic bullet through the vitals..

Sorry I do not have any leads on soft cast boolits for you.

Brad

[MT Chambers]

Canadian shooters can get most any bullet, in any alloy from M.T. Chambers supply, including HP designs.

[mtnbowhunter]

Thanks gang
any other info / experience on this out there???

also - if i use a soft cast HP bullet that is a gas check design BUT WITHOUT the gas check and use a bake on coating will that work well for subsonic/950fps use?

[runfiverun]

if your gonna shoot slow just get a plain base design.
or put the gas check on.
shooting a check mold without it can be done, but the results are not as predictable so you get what you get.


I dunno if you know this or not.
but just adding P/C is not a magic cure all, there are still fitment issues to be dealt with for it to work properly.

[Boolit_Head]

Since you are shooting subsonic I guess you are using a suppressor? If so you may not wan to use a gas checked bullet as it is just one more thing that may cause a baffle strike if it comes loose.

[reed1911]

We make jacketed bullets for sub-sonic hunting. 220g SP .30 cal they work wonderfully. Cost is 75.00 per 100. Most sup. makers do not warranty lead shooting unless it is a can you can disassemble and clean. That was the cause for us to begin making these bullets.

[mtnbowhunter]

Thanks again for the info
the reason behind the lead bullets was to bring shooting cost down and a lot of people claim that the cast lead boolits work just as well or better in subsonic applications (non suppressor)

[reed1911]

I agree. Cast works as well with more nose shapes available and the ability to tailor the alloy for your impact speed/distance.