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pill bug
06-19-2016, 11:10 AM
I collect the rifles. but also accumulate bayonets. Relatively cheap, plentiful and many times made and finished to the most rigid of standards, they are for me, sometimes hard to resist.

That, and the truth be known, I like movies were beleaguered soldiers resist overwhelming odds with a final order- FIX, BAYONETS!

Der Gebirgsjager
06-19-2016, 12:37 PM
I also have some in my accumulation, but for the most part did not specifically seek them out. Some of the rifles came with them. For example, most of the Turkish M-38 Mausers sold dirt cheap about 15 years ago came with them. At the time I purchased a couple dozen of them with an eye to future sporterization projects and ended up with a box full of the bayonets. When I got around to cleaning them up and looking at them more closely I discovered that many of them were originally made for other rifles the Turks had bought, or in some cases had been battlefield pick-ups that they had remodeled to fit their current (at the time) rifles. Among them was a very early Lee Enfield bayonet that had been shortened and fitted with a new guard, but which still bore all of the English markings. I made a gift of it to a collector in England. Some of them (bayonets) are now less common than the rifles they were issued with and can be more expensive than the rifle. A good example would be Italian Carcano bayonets. In fact, replica bayonets are becoming common and are themselves not inexpensive. Seems as though replicators in India make U.S. and British bayonets and the Chinese make some U.S. and Mauser bayonets. So if you're going to collect them, beware of replicas.
DG

Bigslug
06-19-2016, 12:51 PM
Well, Leftenant, if ye'd ordered the lads t' use their magazine cutoffs and single load like yer good Sergeant Major told you to, we woood na be in this sorry state o' fightin' off the fuzzy wuzzys with our toothpicks, now would we. . .Sir?:mrgreen:

OptimusPanda
06-19-2016, 01:23 PM
They do complete the look of the rifle sometimes. Though I must say they deserve way more respect with a bayonet fixed.

marty.toms.3
06-19-2016, 08:48 PM
The p13 and 1907 are particularly impressive
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/01c1b9a4c3f60818f86aba1b2b823c11.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/ca1d4daec60d34a636ef939a42cba9e8.jpg
Long FN export model nice also
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/35980b79bbfc997f2ccc24ecfdd28594.jpg

1916 German ersatz fits the gew 98 and gew88
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/06184791c8c39c8ec4e925f0905607c8.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/a5b29ba03bb0b19bb49799c01ab07d39.jpg

But by far the longest rifle/bayo combo I have is a Dutch m95 Hembrug
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/d057f30f40e40abe12d9f86bf208632e.jpg

Bayonets and slings are desirable to me - still looking for these rare models:

Yugo m95m
Steyr m1903/14
Yugo m1924b


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izzyjoe
06-19-2016, 08:55 PM
The only bayonet that I really liked was the ones that come on sks's, there's no losing them!

JSnover
06-19-2016, 08:57 PM
I don't seek them out but if I find the correct one at a reasonable price I'll grab it. Just seems right to have all the accessories.

UKShootist
06-20-2016, 05:17 AM
Here's a little bit of British law on the subject. Someone I know purchased a Russian rifle with a permanently attached folding bayonet. It's a licensed live firer that he takes to the range. He was told by no less a personage than his firearms licensing officer that if he didn't remove the bayonet then when he took it to the range he could be charged with carrying an offensive weapon, the bayonet, in public!

Earlwb
06-20-2016, 07:17 AM
Aren't they banning knives in the UK? I remember reading about them collecting knives so that the knives can't be used to commit crimes there. Thus going out in public with a bayonet on the rifle could be bad in this case. Now I have a Mosin Nagant carbine which has an attached bayonet on it, but one can remove the pin and remove the bayonet from it.

I also have some matching bayonets to go with some of my rifles too. My most impressive one is the sword bayonet that they used on the Egyptian Remington Rolling Blocks in the 1800's. A long wicked looking bayonet.

170614

daschnoz
06-20-2016, 09:11 AM
Top off a mil. surp. rifle with a bayonet PURCHASE - Why? My M44 (the only mil. surp. rifle I own) came with one already installed.
:kidding:

OptimusPanda
06-20-2016, 07:00 PM
If the bayonet constitutes an "offensive weapon" I'm curious if that officer knows you can make a fine club out of a rifle.

jimb16
06-20-2016, 08:36 PM
Every one of my military rifles has a bayonet with it except for my early M1 carbines. I have trench knives to go with those.

Speedo66
06-21-2016, 11:29 AM
My Swedish Mausers had nice short, well made, knife-like bayonets. Sold them with the guns, another bad move. lol

rondog
06-21-2016, 01:00 PM
Guilty. These are the ones I have wallspace for. Still need bayos for my Enfield No.5 and my AR-15.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/gun%20and%20reloading%20benches/093.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/gun%20and%20reloading%20benches/102.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/gun%20and%20reloading%20benches/100.jpg

Der Gebirgsjager
06-21-2016, 02:10 PM
Nice collection, rondog!

rondog
06-21-2016, 09:23 PM
Nice collection, rondog!

Thanks! Wife thinks there's something wrong with me.....

45workhorse
06-21-2016, 10:00 PM
Thanks! Wife thinks there's something wrong with me.....
Obviously she doesn't get the POINT!

Wayne Smith
06-22-2016, 02:16 PM
Thanks! Wife thinks there's something wrong with me.....

You are lucky, rondog, LOML is absolutely convinced something is wrong with me! But she puts up with me.

Shiloh
06-22-2016, 08:11 PM
I have three.
Saw a guy at the range with a M-44 Russian carbine. Shooting with the bayonet out. Had some cool aperture sights on it though, and was banging the gong at 200 yards.

Shiloh

Frank46
06-23-2016, 12:39 AM
Have a Swiss K31 with the bayonet, M1 Garand, and last but not least a Steyr Model 1912 in 7mm with one. The Steyr actually came with the bayo when I purchased it. Frank

Combat Diver
06-24-2016, 12:42 PM
Only my Swiss Vetterli .41 rimfire, FN49 7x57 and Japanese Type 38 6.5mm I don't have the blades for. Had them for my Springfield 03s, M1 Garands, M1 Carbine, M1917 Enfield, Yugo M48, SKS, AKM, FALs Polish M44, 20" and 14.5" AR15s.

Double Star 14.5" with M7 I carried in Iraq right after I retired.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Fix_Bayonet.JPG

M4ergy 14.5" with M9 I built after returning from that trip in 08'.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/M4_build_with_M9.jpeg


CD

Ithaca Gunner
06-25-2016, 04:01 PM
Most of my mil-surps have bayonets, most came with them, I've bought a few only if the price was right.

Geezer in NH
06-25-2016, 06:13 PM
I have three.
Saw a guy at the range with a M-44 Russian carbine. Shooting with the bayonet out. Had some cool aperture sights on it though, and was banging the gong at 200 yards.

Shiloh
They shoot better out.

I do not like them they poke holes in the ceiling, break stuff etc. The best pics here are the ones OUTSIDE.

Most never have matching #'s anyway. They are cool OUTSIDE!!

rondog
06-25-2016, 09:11 PM
They shoot better out.

I do not like them they poke holes in the ceiling, break stuff etc. The best pics here are the ones OUTSIDE.

Most never have matching #'s anyway. They are cool OUTSIDE!!

Yep. A boomstick with a toadstabber on it demands careful, respectful handling indoors! I only use 'em for wall decorations.

rondog
06-25-2016, 09:14 PM
Only my Swiss Vetterli .41 rimfire, FN49 7x57 and Japanese Type 38 6.5mm I don't have the blades for. Had them for my Springfield 03s, M1 Garands, M1 Carbine, M1917 Enfield, Yugo M48, SKS, AKM, FALs Polish M44, 20" and 14.5" AR15s.

Double Star 14.5" with M7 I carried in Iraq right after I retired.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Fix_Bayonet.JPG

That right there is what I need for my AR. Are those hard to find?

Combat Diver
06-26-2016, 02:45 AM
Don't think M7 are hard to find. Believe Ontario still makes them. Just remember you need either a 14.5" with carbine gas, 16" with mid gas (not 100% sure) or 20" rifle gas system to have the lock ring line up on the Flash Hinder.


CD

alamogunr
06-26-2016, 09:25 AM
I've only got one bayonet and it came with a Yugo Mauser. I'm not a collector in the strict sense. I buy because I want to shoot and someday hand down to my sons.

mrrch
06-26-2016, 09:43 AM
I'd love to have a bayonet for each rifle but they cost more than some of my rifles!

marty.toms.3
06-26-2016, 12:03 PM
I've only got one bayonet and it came with a Yugo Mauser. I'm not a collector in the strict sense. I buy because I want to shoot and someday hand down to my sons.

How many mausers do you have? Me thinks you may be in denial.


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atr
06-26-2016, 12:09 PM
I am looking for one for my 1893 7x57 Mauser
atr

Adam Helmer
06-26-2016, 01:42 PM
I began collecting military surplus arms in 1958. I ALWAYS obtained the associated bayonet, along with the "frog" (carrier) whenever possible. I am pleased to say I got them all when the getting was good. I bought many MkIII British Enfield M1907 bayonets for $1.00 each. All are still on establishment. My most expensive bayonet in the 1960s was for $5.00 for a Swiss "Neuhausen" Sawtooth long bayonet. At the March 2016 gun show in Morris, PA a "fair" and rusty sawtooth and scabbard were for sale for $600.00.

Who needed to buy gold when military surplus stuff was at hand?

Adam

robg
06-26-2016, 02:26 PM
They don't like it up em .Brit joke I'm sorry I couldn't resist .dads army.

DonMountain
06-29-2016, 09:27 PM
My most expensive bayonet in the 1960s was for $5.00 for a Swiss "Neuhausen" Sawtooth long bayonet. At the March 2016 gun show in Morris, PA a "fair" and rusty sawtooth and scabbard were for sale for $600.00.

Adam

Thats funny. Back when I was a kid in the early 60's I had some money from a paper route I did and came across one of these at a "farmer's market" and bought it for $5 along with the cover. Both in very good condition. 30 years later I bought a Swiss straight pull rifle (1911 I think) and never thought about trying that bayonet on it until recently. But it fits up tight like it belongs on it! After reading all of this discussion I guess I am the only one that actually uses an old military rifle with the bayonet mounted. I've killed a lot of deer and cleaned them with a Swedish Mauser long rifle in 6.5x55 and that Swedish bayonet has cleaned all of them. Of course I always mount the bayonet since I have the thought that one time I will jump out of the tree stand and kill a deer with that bayonet!

Shiloh
07-06-2016, 05:06 PM
I have three.
Saw a guy at the range with a M-44 Russian carbine. Shooting with the bayonet out. Had some cool aperture sights on it though, and was banging the gong at 200 yards.

Shiloh

Saw him on the 4th. MoJo sights.

SHiloh

kawasakifreak77
07-13-2016, 12:52 PM
Shoot yeah! I got pig stickers for all my AKs, my FR8, 590A1 but my pride & joy is a M1914 sawback bayonet for my K31.... seriously nasty blade, there.

Bill*B
07-14-2016, 09:55 PM
"Out of the trenches like lions they leapt
And on through the night like a torrent they swept
On, on, with their bayonets thirsting before
On to the foe with a rush and a roar!
And wild to the welkin their battle cry rang
As down on the Boches like tigers they sprang ...."

Did I get it right?

Der Gebirgsjager
07-16-2016, 02:42 PM
I began collecting military surplus arms in 1958. I ALWAYS obtained the associated bayonet, along with the "frog" (carrier) whenever possible. I am pleased to say I got them all when the getting was good. I bought many MkIII British Enfield M1907 bayonets for $1.00 each. All are still on establishment. My most expensive bayonet in the 1960s was for $5.00 for a Swiss "Neuhausen" Sawtooth long bayonet. At the March 2016 gun show in Morris, PA a "fair" and rusty sawtooth and scabbard were for sale for $600.00.

Who needed to buy gold when military surplus stuff was at hand?

Adam

Now there's a bayonet!
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