I "accidentally" bought a Redhawk 44 mag TALO 2.75" barrel :-)

[paraord]

Hey guys, again I'm more and more loving the 44 mag. Be it my Ruger SBH or my Rossi 92. I was shooting my 4" 686 357 a few weeks ago and made a decision. I want a concealable 44 mag. I have the brass (a meere 2k or so) I have the moulds, including 2 single cavities to turn into HP of the 429244 and 429421. I just really dig this caliber.

Anyways I was looking around at 629's and 29's and Redhawk's in shorter barrel lengths because my 686 4" is just on the edge of concealability. I came across this one, a Ruger 5028 Kodiak Backpacker TALO. I found it from a distributor at no joke over 100 bucks less than Buds, and a solid 200 bucks less than what my local B&M can sell it for, if they can locate one. So I bit. I really like the look of this one over the "Alaskan" which I think might be a SRH derivative.

Now I need to find a holster and get these 2 moulds HP'ed because this will be my primary CCW. Finding a holster looks like it will be tricky but I have heard the redhawk will fit in a N-frame holster. Can anyone verify that? Or does anyone have an old 3" N-frame holster?

I guess Im just excited and wanted to share. Cant wait to cast some up and shoot some down range with this. It will probably be a week or more before it comes in. Go figure I order it on the first day of their yearly week long inventory.

[jcren]

How about the Charter 44 special?

[CHeatermk3]

How about some pix?

[DougGuy]

Here's a cpl pics I shameless borrowed courtesy of Google...

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[jrayborn]

I have a short N frame holster. Send me that pistol and I'll let you know if it fits... :)

[CHeatermk3]

OP must be a belt-and-braces kinda guy...I carried my 2" 629 for years in the back pocket of my bibs (too cheap to purchase a holster...).

[paraord]

Thanks Doug guy for posting pic. Stock photos are all in have at the moment.

Cheatermk3, one or the other! As Henry Fonda once said "how can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders. Man can't even trust his own pants" :kidding:

Jrayborn, that's awfully kind of you lol

[Mk42gunner]

I'm going to say it will depend on the holster, it may or may not fit.

I had a 5½" Redhawk around 1990 and it seems like the holster I used was marked as being for a 6" N-Frame. There have been a lot of years, guns and holsters since then though.

Robert

[Drm50]

You had better set aside a buck or two for ear protection. I went short route for awhile it didnt
suit me.

[paraord]

Well I decided to try one of those simply rugged pancake holsters with all the bells and whistles. Removable strap, iwb/owb, all that jazz. I can't wait to post some pics and a range report.
Drm50, I figure if I can't hit the offender I'll at least make him deaf and blind.
Should be a fun dusk shooter!

[44man]

Glorified .44 SP. Mag loads make fire and noise. Will it work, of course but so would a special.

[paraord]

Glorified .44 SP. Mag loads make fire and noise. Will it work, of course but so would a special.

I'll probably load it to special velocities as well, just liked the look of it and the option to run hot if the mood strikes me. Haven't heard of Redhawks being weak by any stretch of the imagination. I generally like my things built like tanks, even when not necessarily needed. Looking forward to getting it in hand to see how it shoots.

[rintinglen]

I toyed with the "big-gun,short-barrel" concept some years back and came away with the knowledge that a grapefruit remains a grapefruit, no matter how long the stem. A grape fruit with a napkin over it may be covered but it is not concealed. However, that doesn't mean a big-frame snubby is no fun!

As far as whether a Redhawk will fit in an N frame holster, the answer depends on the quality of the holster. In a good quality holster it probably won't. The cylinder is about ,06" thicker and the frame about .2" deeper, with other minor differences noted. If the holster actually fits the RedHawk it will be too loose for the N-frame. If it fits the N-Frame, it won't fit the Red Hawk and will be too tight.

[paraord]

I toyed with the "big-gun,short-barrel" concept some years back and came away with the knowledge that a grapefruit remains a grapefruit, no matter how long the stem. A grape fruit with a napkin over it may be covered but it is not concealed. However, that doesn't mean a big-frame snubby is no fun!

As far as whether a Redhawk will fit in an N frame holster, the answer depends on the quality of the holster. In a good quality holster it probably won't. The cylinder is about ,06" thicker and the frame about .2" deeper, with other minor differences noted. If the holster actually fits the RedHawk it will be too loose for the N-frame. If it fits the N-Frame, it won't fit the Red Hawk and will be too tight.

Glad I went with a holster actually made for it then. Really the price was not bad at all.

The grapefruit analogy made me laugh. You do have a point.

[44man]

Yeah, still a big, strong gun that you can't hurt or wear out. Choose the right powder and it will do all you need. Darn sure better then a .38.

[Lloyd Smale]

yes it will fit fine in a 3 inch n frame holster.

[Groo]

Groo here
Holster----- Simple Rugged

[pmer]

How much velocity can you expect with these short barreled 44 mags?

If they can get 300 grains up to 1100 FPS that should do it, but I bet they are fun at 44 SPL velocities too.

[CHeatermk3]

300 grains out of a slingshot will ring your chimes...500fps will ruin your day...I doubt 1100fps out of a 2" redhawk is do-able.

Just guessing here.

[Minerat]

300 grains out of a slingshot will ring your chimes...500fps will ruin your day...I doubt 1100fps out of a 2" redhawk is do-able.

Just guessing here.

Sure would be fun to try though. (no sarcasm intended)

[Earlwb]

That is a impressive revolver. I like it. I bet it is spectacular to shoot with the extra short barrel. Maybe a five foot flame front with full power loads.

[woodbutcher]

;) Very portable flame thrower and night time illumination device.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[Lloyd Smale]

it will easily do that. I know that Taffin has loaded 44 super redhawks to near 454 ballistics. there hell for stout guns. My 2.5 inch Alaskan in 454 would easily push a 300 grain bullet to 1300 fps and I never felt the need to go hotter although I'm sure it would have as there were absolutely no pressure signs at that level. . Id bet there would be no problem at all with a good powder like 110 to see 1200fps or more out of it with 300s. Id try that 300 with 20 grains of 110 an a cci 350 and see what that buys you across the chrono and sneak up from there to you get what you want. My guess is you will give up before the gun does. But like was said a 300 at 1100 will do a lot of killing and be much easier on you for practice. that's about where I would run it if I had to carry it to protect my life from critters that bite back and id guess that 20 grain load will get you right in the ball park. .
How much velocity can you expect with these short barreled 44 mags?

If they can get 300 grains up to 1100 FPS that should do it, but I bet they are fun at 44 SPL velocities too.

[paraord]

ITS COMING IN TOMORROW!!!! My holster is still a week or 2 out (simply rugged) but hopefully it comes a touch early. Ill be at my local shop tomorrow at 11 awaiting the mail haha. Pictures will surely follow and hopefully a dusk shooting picture for the full flame effect.
Im sure once I get some loads figured out I will use the chrony and see exactly how fast they are moving just to know.

[williamwaco]

How about the Charter 44 special?


Oh HELL no. I have owned three of those. ( yes, I am stupid ) they are TOTAL junk.

I kept thinking they can't all be that bad. They were.

[paraord]

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There it is, along with 100 rounds I loaded up quick. Rounds are a touch over the max for 44 spcl but under 44 mag using 5 grains of titegroup. 1 box is 429244 and 1 box is 429421, both sized to .429 which is perfect for the cylinder right out of the gate.

I just shot 6 of these quick and it was very nice. I have to move the windage back to center, for some reason from the factory it was way left. I will be getting plenty more rounds downrange later tonight and tomorrow of both these light loads and my 17.9 grains AA#9. The double action is SWEET, albeit a bit on the heavy side. The single action....well it aint no blackhawk thats for sure.

From some cursory research stoning all surfaces is first. I can see why, a good ol burr in here by the cylinder

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That grip feels mighty nice by the way. Ill hopefully have some fireball shots in the next day or so.

[Black Chrome]

Good looking gun, I bet that thing is a blast to shoot! Pun intended! :smile:

[paraord]

It is a blast thats for sure! But boy that titegroup is smokey....so I shot as fast as I could for a good 4 cylinders just to see how smokey I could make it!
Went to go and take it down but the trigger latch wouldnt budge. I dont have a vise with padded sides so lunch break to my gunshop it is.
I also ordered some hammer shims. .011" of freeplay between the hammer and the frame so 2 .004" shims ought to center that up. I could see some marks where it grabbed either side of the hammer pocket on the frame. This should make it a little smoother. I also want to polish a few surfaces in the trigger group, no metal removal, just polish.

[farmersamm]

Nice score (I guess:mrgreen: )

I believe that's a gun I'd admire from afar.........very far:smile: I can't imagine what full house loads would do to your hand with the little grips, something Ruger is famous for.

If the front sight is a little low for the recoil/muzzle climb, there's higher ones available from Ruger. I put a taller front sight on my SRH, and it vastly improved my shooting.

That baby oughta wake up the neighbors dog :mrgreen:

[farmersamm]

171061:mrgreen:

[paraord]

Well, it shoots great, handles great, and I love it. With gloves the full house loads will be manageable. Its just that horn smacks the webbing with a good bit of gusto without gloves.

But shes gotta go back to New Hampshire....I was going to do a full takedown of it and get that pesky burr near the front of the cylinder but the trigger guard release pin is not moving. Called Ruger, they said they would send me a new latch pin seeing as this one is buggers up pretty bad but use a pair of pliers and get some more leverage and pull it out. After doing that I slipped and I called them back. Ill be sending in the gun in after their 4th of July shut down. At least I get to make fireworks of my own this weekend!

One thing I will say is that Ruger's customer service is top notch. One of the many reasons I keep going with them. Its a bummer I have to send it out but glad they will be fixing it as I clearly cant and dont want to slip anything and put a gash in the frame somewhere.

[Lloyd Smale]

they sure look cool. Those little grips though are the death of me. Shooting 300s at full power out of my 3 inch redhawk was brutal. Id much rather shoot my 4 inch 500 linebaugh bisley with full power loads.

[paraord]

they sure look cool. Those little grips though are the death of me. Shooting 300s at full power out of my 3 inch redhawk was brutal. Id much rather shoot my 4 inch 500 linebaugh bisley with full power loads.


It actually fills the hand pretty good! Not like the original grips on my SBH that ended at the equivalent of my ring finger. I would love to have another set of these grips but checkered for grip.

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[Garyshome]

I "accidentally" bought a Redhawk 44 magUh-Uh,

[Lloyd Smale]

there to small for my hands and absolutely destroy the web between my thumb and first finger. Ive always like the way they look though. Especially with a bit of round butting
It actually fills the hand pretty good! Not like the original grips on my SBH that ended at the equivalent of my ring finger. I would love to have another set of these grips but checkered for grip.

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[paraord]

there to small for my hands and absolutely destroy the web between my thumb and first finger. Ive always like the way they look though. Especially with a bit of round butting

You aint kidding about that webbing! Those hunting loads I made pack a wollop from that horn. Im doing some load testing to find out that delicate line between shootable and too much. 5 grains was like a .22, so Ive loaded 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, and 7.5 so far. A touch over 9 is max for 44 mag and titegroup if memory serves me from yesterday

[44man]

I see a finger behind the guard. A very high grip too. The RH grip is sensitive to hold. "FEELS" good until the trigger is pulled!

[44man]

I never liked the RH grip. SRH is better and hog leg is best. But I still use a Pachmeyer on the SBH to get my finger away form the guard.

[nockhunter]

If you want a good "flame thrower" load, go with a max of w296/h110 with a 180g jacketed whatever (I use Rem 180jhp) in my 4" M29. I only shoot it for the flame show.

Mike