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tdoyka
05-22-2016, 03:09 PM
i do. i have 250gr mihek hp for my 44 mag(around 900-1000fps). my 250gr mihek goes around 40:1. i'm about to try my 45-70 handi with a 330gr gould hp and it will probably be a 20:1 going roughly 1300-1500fps.

everything i hunt for is whitetails. i try to maintain my yard limits for each gun. the 44mag is about 50 yards while the 45-70 gets around 100 yards.

anybody else that goes cast boolit hp?

Outpost75
05-22-2016, 03:17 PM
I use similar alloy and velocity in .44-40, works fine.

bangerjim
05-22-2016, 03:22 PM
I cast, PC, & load 38/357, 44SPL/MAG, and 45LC in HP in alloys from 9-15. Not for any general reason. I do not kill living things. I do all my hunting off the menus at steak houses! Just do it because I can afford the brass molds and to get all the OOOOOOOHH's and AAAAAHHHHH's when people at the ranges see I am shooting HP's.

They are really impressed with HP's........go figure.

I cast shallow, deep, round, and penta HP's.

I cast, PC, & shoot a ton of non-HP boolits also - from 223 thru 45 cal.

Have fun with your HP's!

Lonegun1894
05-23-2016, 02:36 AM
I have a few HP molds too, ranging from .30-.46", and they work fine. I use them for hunting, but seem to do just fine hunting with the solid nose boolits too.

Main one I have used hunting is the Gould bullet for deer and hogs, but have used some .357 and .44 HPs for varmint hunting.

Beagle333
05-23-2016, 05:25 AM
I cast mostly HPs. The reason I started casting was because nobody sold cast HPs. I don't hunt with them though. They look good to me loaded and they make the water jugs more fun to shoot.

500MAG
05-23-2016, 05:52 AM
I have several HP moulds. One of the members here HP'd a couple Keith Moulds for me and I really love those.

MT Chambers
05-23-2016, 09:14 AM
I've shot deer with the Gould bullet in 45/70 as well as in a sabot in my ML, great bullet and a sure killer. Be careful of your shot as a lot of meat can be ruined on shoulder or misplaced shots.

DerekP Houston
05-23-2016, 09:18 AM
I've picked up 2 hp molds so far off group buys. I figured if I was loading self defense type loads I might as well get a hp. 45 shoots just great and saves me lead vs my normal rn.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot
05-24-2016, 03:59 PM
For hunting I would NOT use Hollow Point bullets/molds!

The reason is, cast bullet expansion is totally dependent on the alloy and impact velocity.

I could very likely make up a combination that worked ever so well at a given distance and velocity, but the reliability of expansion becomes questionable at closer ranges/higher velocities and longer ranges/decreased velocity.

OK, for personal defense which should be at up close and personal distances, the velocity will vary only slightly from muzzle velocity and if you want that bullet to greatly expand or even fragment that should be a doable situation.

Hunting being what hunting is, most of us cannot give the exact yardage of a possible shot before hand, or even many times come close. Therefore, the H.P. becomes unreliable in the performance department.

On the other hand, a cast bullet with a Wide Flat Nose/large meplat does not need expansion to get er done. If it does expand a bit, well OK, but if not, that is the reason for the WFN in the first place and from personal experience, the WFN has been nothing short of awesome from my 45/70.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot

g17
05-24-2016, 04:06 PM
I don't, but it's only because I don't have a mold yet.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot
05-24-2016, 04:10 PM
For me at least, another negative point beyond questionable performance is, I like molds that cast a minimum of 4 bullets per pour, and that is simply not possible with any of the H.P. molds that I know about.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot

DerekP Houston
05-24-2016, 04:15 PM
For me at least, another negative point beyond questionable performance is, I like molds that cast a minimum of 4 bullets per pour, and that is simply not possible with any of the H.P. molds that I know about.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot

The only ones I've ordered have been 4 cavity molds from Mihec. Honestly I switched back to my 2 hole molds and started getting more consistent results and more keepers. It does take me longer though.

Edward
05-24-2016, 05:41 PM
These are what my Lyman cavity 300 gr (325gr) in photo checked and PC d look like after going thru 3" timber @200 yd .BHN of 8 going 1430-75 on chrono says deer killer .One weighs 314.2 and the other 302.5. Consistent 3-5 inch groups/ 5shot groups out of my 1895 Marlin off rest most any day I am shooting well with a 2-7 Leupold , these were in front of 43 gr of 3031 ., I think HP would not do anymore !168805168806

bangerjim
05-24-2016, 05:48 PM
For me at least, another negative point beyond questionable performance is, I like molds that cast a minimum of 4 bullets per pour, and that is simply not possible with any of the H.P. molds that I know about.

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot

Look around, my friend! All my HP's are brass and cast 4 at a time. Not your old single cavity ones with the wooden handled pin in the bottom like in the olden golden daze.. I can cast HP's as fast as standard ones with the new design molds from MiHec.

Those molds drop 99.7% perfect boolits every time. Only when I get in a big hurry and open the mold too soon do I get some damage to the HP section by one of the pins.


Good stuff

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot
05-24-2016, 06:11 PM
Thanks Bangerjim,

However, that still doesn't do away with the negative features of cast H.P.. Not when there are better bullet designs.

CDOC

220
05-24-2016, 06:28 PM
I have a few HP moulds although so far I have only used my NOE 360-180WFN in HP form on deer.
Cast from 2:2:96 and launched at 1500fps at a very young sambar that wouldn't have gone more than 120lb.
At 70y it smashed ribs on entry completely penetrated the chest cavity at about 30 degree angle broke more ribs on exit and left a nice little lead doughnut sitting under the skin at the exit wound where the nose was shed and the remainder exited. I don't think I could have asked for better performance from any boolit.

41mag
05-25-2016, 01:03 PM
I am using several MP molds to pour HP's in several calibers. They range from .357 through my 45 Colt.

I use a similar alloy to what 220 above posted and get excellent performance from them. The sad part is that I haven't been able to put any into the feral hog population we have roaming about at our farm. I have no doubts they will open up, and penetrate at the ranges I would be shooting them. Even if they do not expand most have enough meplat to cause terminal damage.

GLynn41
05-25-2016, 01:38 PM
I have shot cast hp a lot-- tested a lot-- have take one 100# doe with a MIHA mold in .41-- the bullet weight about 208 gr- and I notched the nose with a file. looked cool --in left shoulder - one lung destroyed across the stomach area and into the left hip just under the skin at 45 long steps- boolit weight was 140 ish and still had the gc-- mv was 1600-- the recovered bullet looked just like the boolits I had fired in wet paper