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temac
04-12-2016, 05:43 AM
Which one comes D&T for a scope mount isn't length/ profile sensative and won't break the bank?

kungfustyle
04-12-2016, 07:00 AM
Just about all come drilled and tapped for a scope. Rossi is drilled and tapped for a scout scope has a 1 in 30 twist. Henry and Marlin are drilled and tapped for regular scope mounting. The Rossi will take some tweaking but if you are going to scope it that's half the battle and its about $150 less than the other and a great rifle. Others are fine if you are going to keep the mold under 300g. They have a 1 in 38 twist. The Winchester has a 1 in 20 twist but run about 1k. Check out budsgunshop.com They also have a lifetime warranty for about $20 more.

Greg S
04-12-2016, 10:17 AM
As pointed out by KUNG..., the Marlin is D&T for a regular rifle scope while the Rossi is set up for a scount scope mount (using an IER scopel available through either Accurrate or NOE. There is also a peep sight option for the Rossi the mounts in the bolt firing pin safety recess. The Winchester/Miroku is not D&T and the only option is a tang mounted sight. Truthfully, I haven't looked for any aftermarket scope mounts for my 92 Winoku.

ironhead7544
04-13-2016, 02:57 PM
Today, I would go with the Henry. Seems to be fewer problems.

Shuz
04-13-2016, 03:01 PM
My Rossi 92 had what's called a "ghost ring" aperture sight on it when I got it. Works good enuf that I feel I don't need a scope.
It mounts forward of the bolt, and is really easy to pick up running targets with it.

2ndAmendmentNut
04-13-2016, 03:07 PM
When I hear scope + lever action I automatically answer Marlin. The old Ruger levers are also nice 44s to scope, but I haven't ever seen one for cheap. The Winchesters and all the various copies of the Winchesters are nice rifles (or can be nice) but they aren't exactly scope friendly with the exception of the Model 94AE. Though the long 94 action in a short pistol round is pretty awkward in my opinion.

Henry makes a quality rifle, but I personally don't care for their center fire rifles. The just feel to heavy and their 22lr style loading is very odd.

When you say "won't break the bank" what price range are we talking?

Four Fingers of Death
04-14-2016, 08:40 PM
Marlins are the first choice for me if using a scope as they mount a traditional scope easily.

Receiver peep sights are pretty handy on Winchesters and Rossis. I used receiver sights on my old Winchester 44Mag 94 and on my dearly departed 375Big Bore Sold it and my current one doesn't have one fitted, yet).

If you ever intend to shoot cowboy action, the tang sights are the only ones approved.

2ndAmendmentNut
04-15-2016, 10:47 AM
Another thing to keep in mind specifically when it comes to levers and 44mags. Most have a rather slow twist in the rifling. If you are only interested in shooting standard weight 240grs or lighter this is not anything to worry about, but if you want to shoot 300gr+ bullets you might want to read up on what twist/brands to consider.

RedHawk357Mag
04-16-2016, 01:05 PM
Another thing to keep in mind specifically when it comes to levers and 44mags. Most have a rather slow twist in the rifling. If you are only interested in shooting standard weight 240grs or lighter this is not anything to worry about, but if you want to shoot 300gr+ bullets you might want to read up on what twist/brands to consider.
Based on this... What drama should I expect on 432640 tipping in around 262 grns or 432 256 coming in at 255 grns I got a NOE 432 265 uncasted with as of yet? Thanks for any insight you may have.

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2ndAmendmentNut
04-16-2016, 06:34 PM
Based on this... What drama should I expect on 432640 tipping in around 262 grns or 432 256 coming in at 255 grns I got a NOE 432 265 uncasted with as of yet? Thanks for any insight you may have.

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I think 265grs will stabilize without issue, but can't speak from first hand experience.

Four Fingers of Death
04-17-2016, 02:06 AM
They all stabiise 240Gns, 265 should not present any great problems I'm thinking, 300 Gns, well. that's a horseof a different colour altogether.

shoot-n-lead
04-17-2016, 02:57 AM
If you want to shoot 300grs...Rossi is the better choice due to twist.

I have both, Rossi and Marlin, and I prefer the Rossi...more compact rifle and with the stronger action action of the Rossi, you can push the loads a little more...if you choose to.

RedHawk357Mag
04-17-2016, 08:13 AM
Much appreciated.

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Four Fingers of Death
04-17-2016, 08:24 AM
Nowwwwwwwwwwwww, if they bought out an angle eject Rossi 92.

2ndAmendmentNut
04-17-2016, 09:07 AM
If you want to shoot 300grs...Rossi is the better choice due to twist.

I have both, Rossi and Marlin, and I prefer the Rossi...more compact rifle and with the stronger action action of the Rossi, you can push the loads a little more...if you choose to.

I prefer the Winchester 92 action to the Marlin 94 for the classic lines and the fact that it was designed by JM Browning. By no means though is the Marlin 94 a weaker action and both are far stronger than any 44 Mag revolver.

All that being said the OP asked about a 44 that was DT for a scope. The Marlin 94 is the most scope friendly IMHO.

shoot-n-lead
04-17-2016, 10:10 AM
I prefer the Winchester 92 action to the Marlin 94 for the classic lines and the fact that it was designed by JM Browning. By no means though is the Marlin 94 a weaker action and both are far stronger than any 44 Mag revolver.

All that being said the OP asked about a 44 that was DT for a scope. The Marlin 94 is the most scope friendly IMHO.

You are wrong on that note...the Rossi (or Winchester) with the dual vertical locking lugs is a stronger action. The Rossi 92 is also chambered for the higher pressure .454...a testament to the strength of the action.

Four Fingers of Death
04-17-2016, 10:35 AM
The Rossi is way stronger, there was a guunsmith posting on this board a few years ago that converted a Marlin to 454 Casull after the Rossis first came out in that chambering. First shot ripped the top strap off. He felt that it must have been a faulty action, so he did another one. Same result, ripped the top strap open. Stopped converting them after that

2ndAmendmentNut
04-17-2016, 10:55 AM
Well, I stand corrected. Still though, a Marlin 94 will handle any Published 44mag load with ease.

wrench man
04-17-2016, 01:46 PM
If you want to shoot HEAVY .429" boolits get a 444 Marlin, and it uses the exact same scope mount as the 1894 Marlins.

44man
04-17-2016, 04:32 PM
Well, I stand corrected. Still though, a Marlin 94 will handle any Published 44mag load with ease.
NOT SO, crazy twist that needs a RB tops. Stupid crazy 1 in 38". A bearing from a slingshot is more accurate at 100.

Four Fingers of Death
04-18-2016, 06:22 AM
The Marlin 1894 is way strong enough for a 44Mag, it is slick, nicely made and has a good scope mount set up. The only drawback for CB is the twist and the only drawback for some that it can't be driven to crazy pressure levels, but for 99.9% of users, a fine rifle.

2ndAmendmentNut
04-18-2016, 11:24 AM
It slipped my mind earlier, but another good lever gun that is D&T for a scope are the Henry's. In fact if my options where limited to factory new rifles the Henry is the only one I would consider.