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lablover
04-02-2016, 09:47 PM
Like the Title says...May have this Uberti El Patron in my future...Like Tomorrow. A few questions for those that have similar and load for them

I'm hooked on casting and figured this is the perfect "To cast for" cartridge 45 colt.

Does anyone who have a 1873 Uberti load for it and what does it like to eat bullet wise and maybe a favorite load. From what I've been reading it seems to be a poplar brand. Can I assume the Bore dia is .452? I will slug it but also good to hear from others. First box of ammo will be factor cowboy loads to be safe then all reloads after that.

So, let me hear what bullet your Uberti 1873 likes...I need an excuse to buy a new mold :) Oh yea..Dies???

Hopefully accuracy is top notch.

Thanks Gents

Joe

Dan Cash
04-02-2016, 10:28 PM
I don't have an Uberti in .45 but the .32-20 I have is first class; spot on in timing and indexes perfectly. The front sight is too wide for the rear sight but if old eyes can find daylight on both sides in the rear notch, it shoots to the sights and groups as well aas my Army Special Colt .32-20.

I do have a US Fire Arms 1873 which might be mostly Uberti, I don't know but it is a fine six shooter and does well with 225 and 255 grain .454 bullets over Bullseye and Unique.

johnson1942
04-02-2016, 10:53 PM
i have a 1871 1872 open top in 38 special by uberti and a ruger old army with conversion cylinder. its a 45 long colt. i dont shot cast bullets in either of them. in the 38 i use a 375 round ball resized to .358. blackhorn 209 is the powder. with wad between bullet and powder. with the long colt 45 i use a .454 round ball above 18 grains of 209 powder with wad between powder and bullet. both 38 and 45 are roll crimped over the end of the round ball. these loads drive tacks and both shoot more accurate than a cast bullet. also good penetration. wont shoot anything else as they shoot so well. the gun your getting is a fine machine, you will like it and want another uberti. i also have a man with no name 38 special uberti and it also drive tacks as does the open top. its like a converted 1851 navy.

hp246
04-03-2016, 12:23 AM
I have a pair of them. Also two Ruger New Vaqueros and Uberti 66 and Uberti 73 Rifles. All in .45 Colt. I shoot a 230 gr Lee TC bullet sized to .452 in all of them. I chose the 230 gr because I can use the same bullet in two 1911. All of the guns are used in Cowboy Action shooting and Wild Bunch. I'm using the minimum loads of Trailboss.

StrawHat
04-03-2016, 06:54 AM
I have two of the Italian 1873 revolvers. Both like any 260 grain boolit I put in the case as long as the powder is 2f or 3f. Or Unique. I get about 900 fps with all the loads and they hit hard and to the sights.

Kevin

BCgunworks
04-03-2016, 09:34 AM
The uberti guns are darn good guns.

In the shop here I have found them to be on par or better than other production guns on their tolerances.

You should be able to run any book load. They are stronger than guns of days gone past but Ruger only loads would be a no go

9.3X62AL
04-03-2016, 11:00 AM
I had an Uberti Cattleman in 45 Colt x 4-3/4" prior to buying the Ruger BisHawk that replaced it in this caliber. The Uberti was dimensionally sound--the Ruger had to be "finished" (throat honing). The Uberti doted on any 250-260 grain cast bullet, and 90% of my shooting with it was done using 8.0-9.0 grains of Unique. Never should have sold that first Uberti--darn good revolver.

A little over 2 years ago I bought another Uberti Cattleman, also with 4-3/4" barrel, this time in 44/40 WCF. EXCELLENT REVOLVER. Like the 45 Colt variant, it shoots right to the sights at 25 yards with "standard" loads (SAECO #446/200 grain FN @ 900 FPS). I couldn't be happier with my 2-so-far Uberti Cattleman examples.

I began reloading the 45 Colt with an RCBS 3-die set that included a tungsten-carbide sizing die. It reduced case diameter excessively in my opinion--to about .469" with W-W and R-P brass. Resulting reloads looked like Coke bottles and brass life was brief (longitudinal splits). About 5 years ago I found a steel sizer die (RCBS) that sizes to a more reasonable .475"-.476" diameter, and since that time I have yet to lose a case to lengthwise splits. This includes loadings at 1873 ballistics as well as Ruger-level intensities. FWIW

lablover
04-03-2016, 11:04 AM
I wonder how my 200 gr SWC 453 dia would shoot in the 45LC? I think I also need to order steel dies and not carbide from what I've been reading here.

Then again, I could order Dillon for my XL650 press.....