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Paul D. Heppner
03-30-2016, 06:10 PM
What is and where can I get one of these hand held devices that I see for defining what is in our alloy mixtures? I have small mountains of alloy that I made up 30 years ago and stored. I marked them with a black sharpie which has long since faded away. Now I use steel stamps. With age comes wisdom, sometimes.

Digital Dan
03-30-2016, 07:04 PM
There are several available, try a Google search on "Lead hardness tester" and see what pops up. The Lee version evaluates BHN, the Saeco lives in it's own world of relativity. You might also finds some useful info here: http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm

Dusty Bannister
03-30-2016, 07:09 PM
http://www.compare99.com/compare.html?q=Xrf-Machine&ort=Xrf-Machine-Sale&adid=iaCkp5661ZdfgMLFy5qgmIfRzm6KpcePsJKVm8rQyFelc MjD2KRYlsnD1W6K&gaa=X&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bxrf%20%2Bmachine&matchtype=b&utm_content=45380645486&device=c&device_model=&adpos=1s1&campaignid=195206726&utm_campaign=16182827966&loc_physical=9024005&loc_interest=&target_kwid=kwd-68780205926&network=s&extid=&aexpid=&gclid=COW45aDD6csCFQktaQods8wJFg

Google search for SRF scanners.

Paul D. Heppner
03-30-2016, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the quick replies. But I don't need a hardness tester. I already have two. And the other suggestion lead me to cordless screw guns and police scanners. This is the device or something similar is what I am looking for.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=154592&d=1448947165&thumb=1 (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=154592&d=1448947165)

runfiverun
03-30-2016, 08:30 PM
XRF gun.
you'd be better off contacting the member here that will do it for a chunk of the lead.
as in you send him like a pound and he keeps it but tells you what you have.

Ural Driver
03-30-2016, 08:43 PM
I thought of buying one. Figured a couple-a-three hundred bucks.......yeah, not even close....and this one is used..... :eek:

http://surveyingepic.com/?65,niton-xl2-100-handheld-xrf-analyzer

Dusty Bannister
03-30-2016, 08:53 PM
https://www.bruker.com/products/x-ray-diffraction-and-elemental-analysis/handheld-xrf.html?gclid=CKmA98za6csCFQ-oaQodI0YMIA

Sorry, this was on the page but you may have failed to notice XRF Scanners

Mk42gunner
03-30-2016, 10:44 PM
Best bet is to do as runfiverun suggests, or find a friendly well equipped scrap yard locally.

I have had several vehicles that cost less than one of those XRF guns.

Robert

bangerjim
03-31-2016, 12:38 AM
ALL my scrap yards have them and do the analysis for free. Check out your area.

Unless you have a metals business and use it to make a living (a really good living!), you proably cannot afford the extremely high prices for x-ray guns!!!!!!!!!!

Paul D. Heppner
03-31-2016, 08:23 AM
Oh boy, they are pricey. Oh well I guess I'll check with the scrap yard that takes my copper and brass. Thanks guys.

JonB_in_Glencoe
03-31-2016, 09:34 AM
a hardness tester is really all you need for boolit alloy you prepared, if you have some memory of 30 years ago

lightman
03-31-2016, 09:42 AM
Yeah, I was going to say that for what we are doing with lead that knowing the exact alloy is not necessary. Nice to know but not necessary. The hardness tester will tell you about all that you need to know. You should be able to sort you ingots by hardness. And yeah, I wish I would have used stamps on my lead stash years ago.

Walter Laich
03-31-2016, 10:09 AM
this one is only $3950.00 and needs to be sent back to factory for replenishment of the isotope but it does come with free shipping!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Niton-XLp-303A-Handheld-XRF-Analyzer-w-New-Battery-Charger-/111908684628?hash=item1a0e470354:g:C7IAAOSwDNdVsmH N

ccjcc81
03-31-2016, 04:48 PM
I tried the local scrapyard. The guy chewed me out for asking and ran me off. He didn't stop ******** until I was in my car. I now mail my alloys to a member here named typz2slo, and he e-mails me a nice .xls file with my data. I love it.

Ural Driver
04-02-2016, 03:51 PM
I tried the local scrapyard. The guy chewed me out for asking and ran me off. He didn't stop ******** until I was in my car. I now mail my alloys to a member here named typz2slo, and he e-mails me a nice .xls file with my data. I love it.

And his problem was, what?

JSnover
04-02-2016, 05:41 PM
The hardness is more important than how it got that way and hardness testers are cheap. If you start mixing batches you'd want to do it in small portions and test each one.
I'd like to own one of those gadgets too, but I really don't need one.

olafhardt
04-03-2016, 03:01 AM
And remember we got into this to save money.