saeco mold 301

[canuck4570]

is saeco mold 301 good for silhouette to 500 meters

thank you

[Le Loup Solitaire]

The Saeco 301 is an updated version of the old RG-4 design which was considered to be an excellent bullet according to Col, Harrison in in his writing on the performance of cast bullets in the NRA Handloading Book. IIRC it weighed around 196 grains and was a "bore-rider"design. It was popular in the 06 rifles especially the 2 groove and 5 groove barrels as the long nose was positively guided by the dominant lands configuration in those barrels. If loaded correctly it can shoot good groups at long ranges; certainly at 200-300 yards. It could perform well on silhouette because of its weight, but I am not positively sure how well it would do at 500 yards or more as I have never shot mine at that distance. If cast from Linotype or quenched the bullet would certainly be hard enough to withstand the increased powder charge necessary to drive it that distance, but it would need a thorough test series to see what it actually could do. LLS

[canuck4570]

would I be better serve with NOE 311-202 RN, copy of the lima 311-299

[lotech]

I couldn't imagine shooting cast bullets at 500 yards, but I used the #301 in .30-40 Krags, .308s, and .30-06s for years with good accuracy up to around 2,000 fps. It may also shoot well at higher velocities, but I never tried that. However, in the last ten years or so, I've found Lyman's #314299 provides at least slightly better overall accuracy in all the cartridges mentioned. If you already have the #301, I doubt your effort in developing good loads would be wasted. It makes a good bullet.

From an eyeball comparison of the #301 and the #314299, I don't really know which one would have a better ballistic coefficient; certainly a concern for long-range use.

[Wayne Smith]

I think the BPCR shooters have proven that 2000fps is perfectly adequate to get a boolet to 500yds and beyond. You just need the proper sighting equipment to be accurate at that distance.

[canuck4570]

I think the BPCR shooters have proven that 2000fps is perfectly adequate to get a boolet to 500yds and beyond. You just need the proper sighting equipment to be accurate at that distance.

will find a good farmer who will let me on is farm to try this bullet…..
I get sub 1 inch group with this bullet but this is at 1500 fps
will see what it does at 2000 fps

500 yards + shooting range are rare here in Quebec