Prices for Titegroup powder

[tazman]

Why is it, whenever I find quantities of powder, either online or in the store, Titegroup is always considerably cheaper than other powders? Often by as much as $30 less for an eight pound jug.

[shooting on a shoestring]

My guess is it's a supply vs demand thing. I'll bet the primary users of Titegroup are people running 38 Spl, 44 Spl and 45 Colt. And I'll bet those of us non-magnum revolver users are getting few and far between. A powder retailer needs to move product, so they use price to make it move.

My guess. Now let's see if someone knows the answer.

[wlkjr]

Maybe it costs less to produce. I have a good supply and use it for 9mm.

[sargenv]

Titegroups costs about $30 less per 8# can when ordering via Powder Valley.. I sell it for $140/can at my Rod & Gun Club while HS6 and other powders go for $170-$190 for the same 8#.

[runfiverun]

Dang.
I buy bout everything pistol for around 140 an 8 lber.
tite-group might be a little cheaper, I don't remember what I paid for the last jug I bought.
160-180ish is rifle powder prices in my area.
by the pound pistol is 22ish and rifle is 25ish.

it might be cheaper because a jug last about 20 years.

[trails4u]

I guess I have something in the middle going on here. I've had access to pretty much all powders throughout the shortage, post-shortage, etc. However...I've been paying close to $30/lb for most. It never went up...but also never goes down!? All in all...I'll take it.

[dg31872]

Bought a 8 pound jug from Midsouth at the beginning for this year. $117 plus ship and hasmat. My mistake was that I did not buy two jugs.

[bangerjim]

Funny, that, TG is the ONLY powder I have tested (and I tested a LOT of them) that attacks powder coating. Softens and sticks to the base of the BBDT boolits. Must be the nitro mix in it?

No big whoop. I have seen no degradation of performance after being stored nose down for a year. There is an in-depth thread on here about it, if interested. I am not going to detail all the powders tested by others or me.

I use only ETR7 these daze.......cleaner burning and load data tracks TG.

[rsrocket1]

Titegroup and Titewad are both considerably cheaper out here than most of the Hodgdon and even some of the Alliant powders.

Even though Titegroup gets a lot of bad mouthing in reloaders' forums, I've tested enough to see that in a pinch I could use this powder for all my handguns (9 through 45) and shotgun loads (target, buckshot and slugs). It's clearly not the best but it can be made to work competently in all. A good excuse for keeping a jug squirreled away just in case.

[sargenv]

Titegroup lasts years? Not sure how that is true.. though.. 3.3 gr with a 135 gets about 16,800 rds.. give/take.. it's good for maybe 6 months for me.. ;)

[tazman]

It would take me a bit longer than 6 months, but I could get it shot up in 12-16 months.

[Outer Rondacker]

Local shop has it for 28.97 a pound. God I hate franks.

[Bonz]

Titegroup powder does really well with very light bullets but can not make hi-velocity rounds with the midrange or heavy bullets. It does make some good shooting rounds !

[tazman]

Titegroup powder does really well with very light bullets but can not make hi-velocity rounds with the midrange or heavy bullets. It does make some good shooting rounds !

What cartridge are you referring to. Titegroup seems to work quite well with all bullet weights in my non-magnum cartridges.

[DerekP Houston]

I use titegroup a bit in my revolvers so that was correct. I assume the cheaper per/lb cost is due to cheaper manufacturing? I seem to remember reading here awhile back that the new powders were easier/more efficient to produce vs the old stand bys (bullseye, unique, etc). Maybe someone else remembers more.

[sig2009]

Local PA gun show had it today for $20 lb. It was all over the place.

[jonp]

I'm using up some etr7 that is supposed to be very close to titegroup. I'm finding something near what Bonz is saying. Seems to be better with the lighter weight for caliber boolits which is what i mostly use for target

[retread]

$400 at grafs for an 8 pounder.

[tazman]

$400 at grafs for an 8 pounder.

I just checked and your quote is inaccurate. The price I see is $137.39 but is out of stock.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/5599

[Bonz]

What cartridge are you referring to. Titegroup seems to work quite well with all bullet weights in my non-magnum cartridges.

When I reload 45acp with 230 grain bullets, I try to reach the 850 fps threshold. I don't have a chronograph or a place to use one so I rely on my Lee Reloading manual. It shows that a "full pressure" load of 4.8 grains of Titegroup should yield a 45acp 230 grain lead bullet speed of 855 fps. Or I can use a "minimum or lowest pressure" load of 7.0 grains of Ramshot Silhouette that the Lee manual says should yield a 45acp 230 grain lead bullet speed of 882 fps. It just depends on what results the reloader is looking for. I reload my 165 grain .40 & 124 grain 9mm to hit/exceed 1000 fps which is easy to do with a "minimum" load of VihtaVuori 3N37. I always use the powder that will hit the speed that I want but keep the pressure at the lowest.

[DerekP Houston]

dang, I just got another email today with it onsale for ~16 a lb

[9w1911]

where did you find it for sale for 16.00?
I love TG.

I have not tried ETR7, but I may order some today. Just a 4 pounder.

[jonp]

where did you find it for sale for 16.00?
I love TG.

I have not tried ETR7, but I may order some today. Just a 4 pounder.

Read the Expansion Industries thread first before you order.

[RogerDat]

It works for what I load in revolver and it was available when several of the "old standby" pistol powders were unavailable. I have used it in a few auto loader calibers and it worked well enough. In at least one 1911 was better than Unique. Since I was ordering online and paying hazmat it made ordering larger amount more efficient. Pretty much will be using it as my new "standby" for revolver. At least for awhile. Only down side is it is concentrated so have to be very strict with watching for squib and double charges. Upside is I don't use much, especially for moderate plinking loads.

ETR7 has been bookmarked but it will be awhile before I need it, depending on how much of my Titegroup the kids and grandkids burn now that summer is arriving.

[w5pv]

I just bought 4lbs from Midsouth for $102.00 including shipping and hazmat fees about $60.00 cheaper than the local shops around here.I was going to get the 8# can but it disappeared before I could get my sales going.

[davidheart]

Titegroup was about $27/lb here if I remember right. I just can't get it to shoot "well" with cast boolits. Always get lots of leading in the barrel so I shelf it.

[Ural Driver]

$20 pound at Academy....it is there most every time I visit the store.

[NewbieDave007]

$28.99/# at Bass Pro near me on Friday. I still have a good amount so I passed it up.

[Walkingwolf]

When I reload 45acp with 230 grain bullets, I try to reach the 850 fps threshold. I don't have a chronograph or a place to use one so I rely on my Lee Reloading manual. It shows that a "full pressure" load of 4.8 grains of Titegroup should yield a 45acp 230 grain lead bullet speed of 855 fps. Or I can use a "minimum or lowest pressure" load of 7.0 grains of Ramshot Silhouette that the Lee manual says should yield a 45acp 230 grain lead bullet speed of 882 fps. It just depends on what results the reloader is looking for. I reload my 165 grain .40 & 124 grain 9mm to hit/exceed 1000 fps which is easy to do with a "minimum" load of VihtaVuori 3N37. I always use the powder that will hit the speed that I want but keep the pressure at the lowest.

Your probably close with the TG 45acp load, I use it and it tends to match closely the Hogdgon data. I like the powder for low recoil loads, at 4.2gn with a 180gn bullet in 40 S&W is a comfortable load for my wife in her Glock 22. IIRC it was getting around 900 fps with very manageable recoil. Not a lot of muzzle flash either.

[fatelk]

I picked up a couple 4lb cans at Cabela's on sale a few weeks ago, worked out to something like $16/lb.


I just can't get it to shoot "well" with cast boolits. Always get lots of leading in the barrel so I shelf it.

I haven't used any yet, but have seen this complaint about Titegroup several times while looking for info about it online. I'm wondering if I shouldn't have bought it. Anyone else have this trouble?

[tazman]

I have been using Titegroup off and on for a couple of years now. I haven't experienced any problems with leading at all.
The only thing I ever noticed was that the powder seems to heat the gun up more rapidly than other powders do. This may just be a figment of my imagination though.
As far as accuracy and function, no problems at all.

[fatelk]

Thanks. I'll give it a try when I get a chance. I did see a guy on a regional forum wanting to trade an unopened 8lb keg of Unique for the same quantity of Titegroup; said he bought the Unique because it was what he could find but preferred Titegroup. I was tempted to contact him but he's an hour and a half away.

I intended to use it for a variety of calibers- mid-range cast loads in 9mm/.40/.45/.38sp. It was cheap but then I started worrying about it being right for my intended purpose.

[tazman]

Found a 4lb jug of Titegroup today for $59.99 + tax. Too bad it was the only one they had.

[DerekP Houston]

Found a 4lb jug of Titegroup today for $59.99 + tax. Too bad it was the only one they had.

heck of a deal though~ at least you got the one

[John in WYO]

Saw 8 lb keg@$140 yesterday.
$17.50 lb

[pretzelxx]

I bought mine a while back. Grabbed up 10lbs when it was sold out before you could blink. The stuff works pretty darn good in my 45 powder coated. As someone mentioned earlier it doesn't mess too much with accuracy after bring stored a while.

I can't remember the price. I think it was about $17 per pound.

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[Beagle333]

$20 at Academy. Usually in stock.

[sargenv]

I have been using Titegroup off and on for a couple of years now. I haven't experienced any problems with leading at all.
The only thing I ever noticed was that the powder seems to heat the gun up more rapidly than other powders do. This may just be a figment of my imagination though.
As far as accuracy and function, no problems at all.

This is absolutely true.. Titegroup is temp and position insensitive.. that is the positive..

The negative is the amount of Nitro-glycerine in it to make it work.. it does heat up the barrel of the firearm quicker than most (maybe not as bad as Lil'gun). Having used it for years in Action shooting.. it will heat up a pistol barrel faster than most other pistol powders.. that was one reason I switched to Solo 1000 some years ago.. Solo 1000 being single based and "cooler" than most.. but at the moment, Solo 1000 is unobtainable.