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dualsport
03-08-2016, 01:59 PM
I've shot PRB in my TC New Englander 12 ga. Maybe it's time to go to the next level. From what I've seen they get pricey quick. Dixie GW?

Nobade
03-11-2016, 08:00 AM
Might be a good deal...
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/muzzle-loader-classifieds/nw-tradegun-convertible/

-Nobade

dualsport
03-11-2016, 01:55 PM
Thanks.

Omnivore
03-11-2016, 03:41 PM
The Lyman Trade Gun is a good value.

Maven
03-11-2016, 09:01 PM
ds, It's time to ask Waksupi about this. Why not send him a PM?

waksupi
03-11-2016, 11:00 PM
http://www.northstarwest.com/collections/all

Rummage around in here. The Early English trade gun has become my favorite. The reason for that is, it's a bit heavier than the northwest trade gun, and I shoot a heavier gun better.

BigAl52
03-12-2016, 01:34 AM
The Lyman Trade Gun is a good value.

X2 I bought one in 54 cal percussion. for the money its a great gun. Al

rfd
03-12-2016, 06:32 AM
depends on what ya mean by "trade gun". this is a 1740-1760'ish trade gun, a .58 smoothbore ...

http://i.imgur.com/GQrn4XM.jpg

this is a lyman trade rifle, probably circa 1800'ish ...

http://i.imgur.com/6wwVLlJ.jpg

both flinters but two VERY different firearms.

dualsport
03-13-2016, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the info. Trade gun is what I meant, although I'd like to have a Lyman Trade Rifle too! I'll save that link to NorthstarWest. Long ago I read Muzzleloader magazine and I think I remember seeing their adds? Like back in the 80's. As soon as I get my VISA paid down a bit I'm going for it. Gotta do some homework, thinking of a longhunter type trip in the woods.

rfd
03-13-2016, 04:25 PM
"trade gun" can mean SO many things, mostly predicated on the era you wish your long gun to depict. for the early to mid 18th century, "trade gun" means an indian smoothbore (as shown in my pic above) or type "G", and this covers the settlement period to the F&I war, and then onto the rev war. the later 18th century and early 19th "trade guns" were in both smoothbore and rifle configurations, typically much shorter barrels (for horseback and out west travel) than was vogue in the early to mid 18th century, and prior to 1810-20 was always a flintlock. since the invention of the cap lock in 1807, past that date lots of flinters were converted to cap ignition.

if the historical values don't mean all that much, it'll come down to smoothbore or rifle, flint or cap, full or half stock, long (+/- 42") or short (+/- 28") barrel. and always add in the long gun's prime use, with the afore mentioned criteria, and the gun's bore size.

Old Scribe
03-13-2016, 05:11 PM
You may also look at the TVM website. They also have an add in Muzzleloader magazine. Their guns are quality and available as kits too.

waksupi
03-14-2016, 01:56 AM
Thanks for the info. Trade gun is what I meant, although I'd like to have a Lyman Trade Rifle too! I'll save that link to NorthstarWest. Long ago I read Muzzleloader magazine and I think I remember seeing their adds? Like back in the 80's. As soon as I get my VISA paid down a bit I'm going for it. Gotta do some homework, thinking of a longhunter type trip in the woods.

I'm not sure, but I think Curly Gostomski started the company in the early 60's, maybe even the late 50's. He was also a founder and member of the board of directors for the Museum of the Fur Trade, Chadron, Nebraska.

RonT
03-15-2016, 06:08 PM
Here's a pic of a Curley 'kit' that I built in the early 80's and a scratch built ~2/3 scale for my oldest son. Bought the parts and rough stock from him at his shop (garage) in Dayton, O. Don't know anything about North Star West, but most likely would make a passable gun.
Cheers,
R
http://i68.tinypic.com/1qhkic.jpg

waksupi
03-16-2016, 11:44 AM
Here's a pic of a Curley 'kit' that I built in the early 80's and a scratch built ~2/3 scale for my oldest son. Bought the parts and rough stock from him at his shop (garage) in Dayton, O. Don't know anything about North Star West, but most likely would make a passable gun.
Cheers,
R
http://i68.tinypic.com/1qhkic.jpg

North Star West is Curly's old company.

Rustyleee
03-16-2016, 12:29 PM
Curly has passed. His family sold the company but from what I hear the new owner is doing fine and quality is as good as ever.
Curly used to spend his winters the last 5 years or so about 3 miles from mi casa. He was a great old guy.

waksupi
03-16-2016, 06:46 PM
Curly has passed. His family sold the company but from what I hear the new owner is doing fine and quality is as good as ever.
Curly used to spend his winters the last 5 years or so about 3 miles from mi casa. He was a great old guy.

Actually some of the castings have been considerably improved since Curly was making them. He came out to our winter rendezvous here in Montana just shortly before he died. He was definitely one of a kind!