Decided to get the XL650, what accessories to add

[osteodoc08]

So I decided to get the 650 to replace the LnL. I will keep the LnL for now, because to replace all the caliber conversions would be cost prohibitive, but as I get all of them replaced, will phase out the LnL.

I am ordering the following so far:

XL650
45 ACP dies
Large Pistol Case Feeder
Small Rifle Case Feed Plate
Strong Mount
Roller Handle
Bullet Tray
Powder Sensor System
Powder Check System
Extra small and large primer tubes

Does anyone suggest anything else, add or take away?

[lefty o]

dont really need the powder sensor, the powder hopper is right there in front of your face. powder check on the other hand is a good idea. buy the spare parts kit, yes dillon will replace about anything under warranty, but if you have the kit you dont have to wait while you get parts sent to you.

[bosterr]

I got the strong mount for mine and found it made the machine way too high. The powder check is a good thing to have, but when I get through 100 primers, I automatically top off the powder hopper.

[slide]

Good decision!

[Lefty Red]

Ergo Handle from Inline Fab instead of the Dillon roller handle.
Same thing with their Ultramount!

[clum553946]

I use a flexible neck light aimed down on shellplate so I can see necks and powder level of cases before I seat the bullets. Congrats, you'll lose some sleep when you first get it getting acquainted with your new toy! Lol

[bullet maker 57]

The case feeder makes life alot easier.

[aquarist]

I have a bare bones xl650, I really wish I had the case feeder, tool mount and tools, and conversion kits. As it stands without the case feeder I have to stop ever 12 rounds or so to reload my tube. If you want to swap calibers you'll need the conversion kit. Like others have mentioned the powder sensor probably isn't needed, it's really easy to see if it's empty, and you don't really need extra primer tubes. The machine only holds 100, so you can load the machine then load an extra 100 in the primer tube and be ready for a tactical reload if you want. Usually a good idea to stop every 100 rounds or so and check things out, and the primer alarm helps you remember. If you have the extra cash quick change tool heads with powder measures are always a plus.

[jmorris]

I have or have had just about everything you can add to a 650, except swagers, and would suggest you put it together stock and load a few thousand at least before you start changing things.

the collator would be #1 on my list and I like the bearing modification. Other than that and GSI bullet feeders and some spent primer mods mine are stock.

[dragonrider]

Regarding the strong mount, two things must be considered, bench height and operator height. My bench is 32.5" high, with the strong mount it puts the shell plate at 45" at it's lowest position and about 50".. at it's highest position. With myself being about 5'9" or a tad less the press height is practicaly perfect.

The case feeder is a must have.

Powder checker is very handy, not absolutelty needed if you have a well positioned light and the discipline to check each case as it goes past.

For changing primer sizes it is helpful to have a complete primer feed setup for large and one for small.

[warf73]

I got the strong mount for mine and found it made the machine way too high. The powder check is a good thing to have, but when I get through 100 primers, I automatically top off the powder hopper.


Dillon does make a strong mount just for the XL650 that isn't as tall, just in case you or anyone else didn't know.

[steelworker]

Skip the Powder level sensor, BUT get the one that checks the powder in the cases! That thing is awesome.

If I were doing it over again, would get the strong mount (they make different ones), and ergo roller handle from Inline fabrication. And get the led lighting system from them as well.

The bullet bin seemed a bit expensive to me, so I bent a piece of angle iron and bolted it to the strong mount. Clip a akro bin on it and your gtg for $40 less.

Your going to love the blue koolaid.

[RickF]

Like Dragonrider I too have compete primer assemblies for small and large primers and believe that was money well spent, a tool set and tool holder is another item that is non essential but I find comes in very handy.

[tja6435]

Hornady bullet feeder die in your preferred caliber and a Lee Bullet Feeder to go on top of it with help from a Bully Adapter. It'll hold 80-100 bullets depending on how long they are and you can slam out rounds way quicker than by seating the bullet by hand. The total cost on this style of bullet feeder is right at $80-$90 with one caliber feed die. The Hornday feed die will need some work with a dremel to get it to feed cast boolits with awesome reliability, but it's easily done with some grinding stones and polishing pads.


I use my bullet feeder setup on station #3 where the powder check die/alarm would go. I seat in #4 and crimp in #5.

There is a way to setup a bullet feeder and retain the powder check station, but you'll need different tool heads to get into all that. And just that head costs $300. Here's the link to it:

http://www.gsiinternational.com/650-manual-40-caliber_8_4233_8595.html

Here's the links to my setup, I can take pics of mine later on if anyone is interested in my cheap guy bullet feeder setup.

www.Bullyadapter.com

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004EXV1XE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1455206473&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=bullet+feed+die

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000KKEP3I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1455206542&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=lee+bullet+feeder

[steelworker]

Hornady bullet feeder die in your preferred caliber and a Lee Bullet Feeder to go on top of it with help from a Bully Adapter. It'll hold 80-100 bullets depending on how long they are and you can slam out rounds way quicker than by seating the bullet by hand. The total cost on this style of bullet feeder is right at $80-$90 with one caliber feed die. The Hornday feed die will need some work with a dremel to get it to feed cast boolits with awesome reliability, but it's easily done with some grinding stones and polishing pads.


I use my bullet feeder setup on station #3 where the powder check die/alarm would go. I seat in #4 and crimp in #5.

There is a way to setup a bullet feeder and retain the powder check station, but you'll need different tool heads to get into all that. And just that head costs $300. Here's the link to it:

http://www.gsiinternational.com/650-manual-40-caliber_8_4233_8595.html

Here's the links to my setup, I can take pics of mine later on if anyone is interested in my cheap guy bullet feeder setup.

www.Bullyadapter.com (http://www.Bullyadapter.com)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004EXV1XE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1455206473&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=bullet+feed+die

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000KKEP3I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1455206542&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=lee+bullet+feeder


Please post your pics. I'd like to see them.

[flyingrhino]

I would skip the Hornady bullet feeder die. Been there, done that, not happy. Get the Mr. Bulletfeeder drop die. It is the best design out there. Will cost you almost double the Hornady but it's worth it. If you search threads on bullet feeders you will see what I mean.

[tja6435]

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[tja6435]

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[tja6435]

I would skip the Hornady bullet feeder die. Been there, done that, not happy. Get the Mr. Bulletfeeder drop die. It is the best design out there. Will cost you almost double the Hornady but it's worth it. If you search threads on bullet feeders you will see what I mean.

The Hornady bullet feeder dies are setup for jacketed bullets. It needs some work to get it setup to where it will feed a lubed, cast bullet EVERY time. I have mine setup for .358" bullets currently. I do have the 45 cal feeder but haven't worked it over as I'm still loading small primer cases. I expect the 45 cal feeder to work 100% once I go through it. The die needs enough case flair to allow the bullet to drop and to sit down far enough into the case so it doesn't fall out as the shell plate is turned.

[jmorris]

I have only used my Hornady feeder with plated so far but it worked fine with them out of the box.

[steelworker]

Thanks for posting those pics. Looks good!

[convert69]

Get a in line fabrications led light kit.

[clum553946]

This is a great under $10 add on that keeps you from bending over looking for unfired primers!

WTS: Fix for Dillon 650 Ski ramp (primer chute ) (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?283293-WTS-Fix-for-Dillon-650-Ski-ramp-(primer-chute-))Started by Smoke4320 (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/member.php?29775-Smoke4320), 07-18-2015 04:42 AM



Low primer rod holder looks like it might be worth it too!

[VHoward]

Instead of spending $9 in a 3d printed part, go to a toy store for a few rubber balloons to put over the ski ramp ( a condom works too :-) ).

[David2011]

There's a video on YouTube that shows loosening the primer punch setscrew and just swapping the primer punch assembly for the other size. It's much faster than swapping the entire primer system out and saves a few bucks. I'm trying it next time I change primer sizes.

David

[Plate plinker]

Low primer check, and both powder sensors. I like to focus on the cases not the other stuff. That said when I am in the zone I do notice the primer rod weighted with a 45 cap case drop overtime it grabs a primer. It helps me notice if I get a case that does not get primed.

[jmorris]

( a condom works too :-) ).


Next at your going to say a pair of lace panties make great media separators. Are you trying to get use married guys hurt?

Having an empty condom wrapper in my possession would likely result in bodily harm.

[VHoward]

Safer to buy a cheap package of balloons.

[clum553946]

Why go through the time & trouble of going to to the toy store, blow some gasoline, spend 5 bucks on a pack of balloons, put them on your $1000 Dillon 650 when you can have the ski chute that has a clean look to it & gets delivered for 9 bucks?

[GONRA]

GONRA modified a PVC tube to slide onto the bullet tube to get in a few more bullets.
Verks Just Fine for 9mm and .45 ACP anyhow.
(To cheep to get a case feeder....)

[jmorris]

Why go through the time & trouble of going to to the toy store, blow some gasoline, spend 5 bucks on a pack of balloons, put them on your $1000 Dillon 650 when you can have the ski chute that has a clean look to it & gets delivered for 9 bucks?


I actually prefer to just keep loading rounds with them. The only problem with the 650 primer feed I seem to see it that it always feeds primers. My results as well, I just keep sized and deprimed cases going to station 2 to solve the "problem".

[VHoward]

Why go through the time & trouble of going to to the toy store, blow some gasoline, spend 5 bucks on a pack of balloons, put them on your $1000 Dillon 650 when you can have the ski chute that has a clean look to it & gets delivered for 9 bucks?

You don't make a special trip just for the balloons. Next time you are out shopping you stop at the dollar store and buy a package of balloons for a buck. I'm just offering a cheap solution. I myself went this route http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-BLUE-/281929995142?hash=item41a4565386:g:gI0AAOSwNSxU3qa k . So it was more than $9. But how many primers will fit in the enlarged ramp? How easy is it to unload? Will you end up spilling those missed primers on the floor anyway?

[clum553946]

I bought one when they first came out & it works really well


You don't make a special trip just for the balloons. Next time you are out shopping you stop at the dollar store and buy a package of balloons for a buck. I'm just offering a cheap solution. I myself went this route http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-BLUE-/281929995142?hash=item41a4565386:g:gI0AAOSwNSxU3qa k . So it was more than $9. But how many primers will fit in the enlarged ramp? How easy is it to unload? Will you end up spilling those missed primers on the floor anyway?