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LAKEMASTER
01-14-2016, 09:19 PM
I know most of you wouldn't touch this topic with a 10 ft pole ,but if you were going to reload 06 for yote name your recipe...

Those of you who incorporate my ranch dog 165 g mold get extra points.

Around my area most guys don't need to pass 200 yards

Wolfer
01-14-2016, 11:34 PM
I really only have one cast load for my 30-06. Well maybe three to be exact. One mold, a 311041 with one cavity HP. Two pins, one small and short and one big and long. The short one for deer and the long one for coyote.

20 gr of 2400 pushes these to just under 1800 fps. I've only shot two with the big HP but have shot a few with the small HP. Frankly I can't tell much difference. I wanted the big HP to fragment off but it just blows a 1" hole out the other side. I would need to harden my alloy and push it faster to work as I wanted.

While these loads have worked very well on deer for me I've about give up on them for coyotes. My 223 with jacketed puts them down so much more reliably.

These loads work well on coyotes as long as good hits are made. Personally I find coyotes most difficult to consistently make good hits on. When coming to a call they often come in hard and if they don't die they leave the same way.
While coyotes have a talent for staying out of harms way their real skill is the ability to get in harms way and make it out again.
I love to hunt them but I admire them at the same time.

LAKEMASTER
01-15-2016, 12:31 AM
This is well said, I think just make some accurate loads and not change up anything.

I have many jacketed rounds that I can use

Don Fischer
01-15-2016, 06:20 AM
I'd most likely carry over from what I do with jacketed bullet's. I develop one load only and it does every thing I'd ask that rifle to do. That would mean my load would be a cast 180gr RN that is hollow pointed.

Screwbolts
01-15-2016, 07:44 AM
I shoot the RD 165 out of 06s, we use several different loads, all are very good.

My brother and his neighbors like 17 gr of IMR 4227, I believe you could go to 21 with no issues.

I shoot 26.5 of Re 7 or 24.5 0f 4198, great loads in 3 of my 06s.

The above loads are great on deer so should be great on a coyote also.

Ken

LAKEMASTER
01-15-2016, 11:17 AM
Once I can have a respectable amount of reloads I think I will just make 1 good 155 gr bullet load that I can use for everything.

Now I just have to shoot the other 300 factory rounds I have =)

lobogunleather
01-15-2016, 02:48 PM
40-plus years ago, as a young cop raising two kids and trying to keep the mortgage current on mortgage on skinny paychecks, I owned two rifles. One was a .30-06, the other was a .22LR. The .30-06 saw several seasons of use on coyotes, back in the days when prime winter pelts were bringing close to a week's take-home pay, so we tried not to blast them apart.

My .30-06 cast bullet load (then and now) was either the Lee C309-180R or C309-170F (wheel weights or harder), Hornady gas checks, NRA-Alox lube, 30 grains H335. With fixed sight rifles I use the 400 yard sight setting for 100 yard targets. With scope-sighted rifles I have written down the number of elevation clicks required.

This will shoot through coyotes cleanly with minimal pelt damage, and a hit in the boiler works makes a clean kill. Also performs reliably on Colorado mule deer.

Interestingly, over the years I have added several other rifles in .30-06, .308, .30-40 Krag, .30-30, and .300 Savage. Other than different cases I use the same load in all of them, and I can't tell any difference in performance on any game animal.

MT Chambers
01-15-2016, 05:49 PM
The only problem is having to keep changing the sights for your lighter loads, and changing them again for heavier loads as bullet drop is extreme with most light loads. I use a dedicated rifle for my light loads, the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook is full of light loads for the 30/06 and others.

Wolfer
01-15-2016, 07:09 PM
I too like one load per rifle. As luck would have it one of my 30-06s doesn't feed cast well even though it shoots it well enough. This is a dedicated jacketed gun.

My old 760 doesn't like heavy jacketed loads but shoots cast remarkably well. This is a dedicated cast gun.

My 700 rem when lined up for elk hunting. 168 gr Barnes TSX 2" high at 200 yds. It puts the cast loads for my 760 about 1" low at 100 yds. This is a combination gun. It also doesn't seem to have first shot flyers when changing from cast to jacketed or vice versa.

quilbilly
01-16-2016, 04:18 PM
I have been using the Lyman 130 gr plain base boolit in my 30/30 and it does a serious number on coyotes all the way out to 150 yards even though the MV is only about 1350. I would bet it would work well in your 06 as well.

9.3X62AL
01-16-2016, 04:38 PM
I haven't gone after loads for the 30-06 with near the vigor I have given to the 30-30 WCF. That said, I have some recent experience with Lyman #311041 cast as a BruceB Softpoint on a way-too-casual song dog going away at about 115 yards or so. DRT. Impact left rear of ribcage, 1/2" entry wound......exit at right front shoulder-point, 1-1/2" stellate-aspect conformation. This load starts at about 1800 FPS. Pure lead point, about 30% of total bullet weight (RCBS 22-55-SP donor slug). The BB SPs are a laborious job to make, but the 40 I made for coyote-strafing for the 30-30 in 2011 have 16 still on hand. 10 got used to confirm that sight settings were same-o for the homogenous-alloy bullets, and 14 have been used at or on song dogs. A mountain lion got close to SHOOT/SHOVEL/SILENCE treatment about a month ago, too--but it had the deep sagacity to move away instead of toward Marie while rock hunting. Both the 30-30 and 38-55 were along for that little engagement, so the cat made a good decision.

Pumas are big, beautiful critters--I'm glad we didn't have to shoot it. A not-so-gentle reminder that we are not always at the top of the food chain. Still, 2-legged predators cause me a LOT more concern than any on four feet.

popper
01-20-2016, 01:53 PM
The RD gives you a 9" drop @ 200, 2K fps. Up it to 2400 fps and drop is about 6", 100 yd zero. I think your decision is wise, go with factory jacketed. Up to 75, the RD is a good choice.