Springfield XD or H&K VP9

[elkhuntfever]

If given a choice, what would you prefer?

Springfield XD

H&R VP

[Wasalmonslayer]

I have owned the Springfield and it was a good gun.
A friend just bought a vp 9 and now I am a fan.
Shoots really well and the balance is great.
If I were buying now it would be the vp9.
It is a good piece! I put 200 down the pipe without a hiccup in a half hr!

Thats my 2 cents.

Wasalmonslayer

[762 shooter]

Xd.........Takes a lickin' and keeps on ticking.

762

[warf73]

As I'm not a fan of the 9mm I would say the XD since it comes in all flavors. If I was in the market for a 9mm I would look at the H&K as I've always thought they made a nice handgun.

I bought a XD officer model in 40 S&W the year after they came out and now have just under 5k rounds with no issues. I clean it once in a while and add a drop of grease on the rails every 500 rounds or so. Mine seems to be very reliable, it will eat everything I stuff in it.
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This was back in November hadn't shot the xd in over 4 months (been enjoying the S&W 627) at 10 yard and 72 rounds. Not bad but could do better but I'm not complaining since that was the first time I shot it in 4 months. Was shooting mixed brass, 180gr berry plated, WST, and Winchester primer.

[elkhuntfever]

The H&K does come in a 40.

[warf73]

AH looked on GB and only seen 9mm in the VP9, guess the 9 stands for 9mm silly me.


Sorry

[Finster101]

I have an XDs and a XDm they both run really well and have a good feel to me. I'm happy with them.

[Lloyd Smale]

H&K hands down if I could afford it. To me even the xds are over priced. For a 100 bucks less you can get a glock or m&p that are just as good in every way. I put springfields in the same category as glock and M&Ps and H&Ks and sigs a notch higher.

[warf73]

H&K hands down if I could afford it. To me even the xds are over priced. For a 100 bucks less you can get a glock or m&p that are just as good in every way. I put springfields in the same category as glock and M&Ps and H&Ks and sigs a notch higher.


Would never disagree with ya Lloyd about them being over priced. I could never get over the glock angle thing. I tried really hard till Springfield came out with the XD which was my first plastic gun purchase.
Few things I do like a lot with the XD you can be in the dark and feel if the gun is loaded, and feel if the gun is cocked (firing pin sticks out a smidge). Not saying that make the glock bad, but that is something over it.
If Sig would make a P238 (a little bigger design ofcourse) in a 40 or 45 I would buy one. Like what Springfield did the XDs, but I really like the 1911 trigger set up over the XDs. Springfield does make the EDM but I'll not be paying $1k+ for CC firearm.

[Virginia John]

If it is not a matter of price, H&K hands down.

[jonp]

H&K is a fine pistol but pricey. I'd say overpriced trading on their name and mystic a bit. Like Sig's they will run about forever and if you can afford the price I"d get one in a heartbeat. The SW is a step, a far step I think below both of the previous but it is still a good firearm from what I have been told by people that own them. I happen to like Kahr's myself and think the trigger is much better. In plastic? IDK, toss it up. In steel, H&K

It's kinda like a Rock Island 45ACP vs Wilson. Both will go bang but I doubt many will disagree that the Wilson is a better made pistol.

[shooting on a shoestring]

I looked seriously at a VP9. I put it down when I saw it had a stepped chamber. I know that's an old design and has worked for about a 100 years, but I really perfer the tapered chamber in 9mm.

Before you you buy one do a little reading on the stepped chamber design. You might like it.

The VP40 has a tapered chamber.

[jonp]

It is also a polygonal barrel like the Glock.

[MtGun44]

"stepped chamber"??????

What does this mean?

[Lloyd Smale]

if you want an inexpensive gun and don't like the grip angle of a glock check out the M&P line. Ive got three and they run every bit as well as my glocks and feel better in my hand. As to feeling around to see if its loaded, if its out of my safe and in the house IT IS loaded.
Would never disagree with ya Lloyd about them being over priced. I could never get over the glock angle thing. I tried really hard till Springfield came out with the XD which was my first plastic gun purchase.
Few things I do like a lot with the XD you can be in the dark and feel if the gun is loaded, and feel if the gun is cocked (firing pin sticks out a smidge). Not saying that make the glock bad, but that is something over it.
If Sig would make a P238 (a little bigger design ofcourse) in a 40 or 45 I would buy one. Like what Springfield did the XDs, but I really like the 1911 trigger set up over the XDs. Springfield does make the EDM but I'll not be paying $1k+ for CC firearm.

[Lloyd Smale]

my nephew is a tropper with the local sherrifs dept. He was issued a sig 9. they switched to 40s and he was issured a glock 22. After shooting my M&Ps a half a dozen times or so he bought a full sized 40 and got permission to use it as his work gun. Now I'm not going to say its a better gun. The reason he did it is it just felt better to him then the sig and pointed better then the glock. Ive been shooting m&ps and glocks mostly for 10 years or so and have never had one miss a beat other then a couple times I had primers seated upside down.


Ive put 10s of thousands of rounds of factory ammo reloads and reloads with cast through both of those platforms. In full sized guns compact guns and sub compact guns and they go bang EVERY TIME. So I have to ask why you would think them a far step behind a sig. I don't buy a black gun to put it in a display case because its pretty or to show off my high dollar gun to someone at the range. these are working guns and there job isn't to shoot one inch 50 yard groups either. Its to go bang every time! My M&Ps and glocks do just that and they do it for 500 bucks.

Explain to me why I should pay 800 dollars or more for a sig. If you say it will last longer ill say prove it. I just don't buy it and even if it did I could buy 2 used glocks or M&Ps that probably have 50 rounds or less through them for the price of one sig. Don't get me wrong. I think a sig is a great gun and an H&K is too but I'm just not into paying 300 bucks for a name stamp on a slide. Maybe ill reconsider my opinion when I start seeing people complaining they wore out there M&P but I'm betting that day wont ever come. I know my full sized 9mm probably has more rounds through it then then 5 average sig owners have shot through there guns and you cant tell it from new other then some finish wear. Bottom line is I don't have money to throw away and for me to lay out 60 percent more money something needs to be shown to me to really open my eyes and make me believe I'm spending money wisely.
H&K is a fine pistol but pricey. I'd say overpriced trading on their name and mystic a bit. Like Sig's they will run about forever and if you can afford the price I"d get one in a heartbeat. The SW is a step, a far step I think below both of the previous but it is still a good firearm from what I have been told by people that own them. I happen to like Kahr's myself and think the trigger is much better. In plastic? IDK, toss it up. In steel, H&K

It's kinda like a Rock Island 45ACP vs Wilson. Both will go bang but I doubt many will disagree that the Wilson is a better made pistol.

[Markbo]

So by that logic you dont own any Colts either, right Lloyd? ;)

[5Shot]

VP9 without question. I've got many thousand rounds through my P30 and would not consider changing from the HK Platform. If you can afford it, I don't think you could do much better.

[Plate plinker]

For me it depends on what the purpose of the gun will be. Carry, sport or home gun?

[Lloyd Smale]

I actually do own one colt. A gold cup trophy. Its a good shooter and reliable and was my first 1911. Ive had some other colt 1911s through the years and none stayed long. Never saw that they did any better then a Kimber or springfield and because some think there a notch better they bought better trading prices so I could never see hanging on to them. tell you my opinion on 1911s and its the same as my opinion on ar15s. Lots of overpriced stuff because they slap a name on it. I had two les baers and they were good guns but twice as good as my kimbers. I paid close to 2k for those guns. Best 1911 ive owned is a sti Trojan. Just as precisely built as the LB more accurate and under a grand. As to colt 1911s and there ar15s too ill say this to sum it up. You can go and buy one if you want. Spend that extra 3-500 bucks if you have it to waste. I don't. Only good thing is theres enough people who have drank the koolaid and think there a better gun to keep the used prices up so you might not loose to much when you finally realize you paid to much for it. Me ill be happy with a stag ar and a Kimber and have enough money left to keep them fed for years. Same with these black handguns. If you think the 1000 bucks you spend on a you sig or H&K buys you twice the gun that you get with a 500 dollar glock ive got a bridge for you!
So by that logic you dont own any Colts either, right Lloyd? ;)

[shooting on a shoestring]

MtGun44,
My understanding George Luger is credited with inventing the stepped chamber for 9 mm. Instead of having a tapered chamber, he used two straight sections in his chamber. The approximately one third of the chamber next to the riflings was tight enough to align the bullet and was the area that produced the gas seal when firing. The rest of the chamber was a straight cut 0.1 mm larger diameter than the front of the chamber. So there is s 0.1 mm step in the chamber about 2/3's the way into it.

The stepped chamber definitely works well. My knock on it is the step it puts in brass I would want to be reloading. Now I'll say in fainess I haven't owned a stepped chamber so I really don't know if the resulting stepped brass is a problem. I just didn't want to buy a $700 gun and find out. So I passed.

I imagine some folks might not notice the stepped chamber until they bought it, hence the "heads up".

[Love Life]

Ummm, if ya'll haven't priced Colt's 1911's and 1991's lately, you should. Several of their models fall right in line with the pricing of their competitors.


Now to the OP- I'd get the VP9. The Springfield is a good gun, but the VP9 is worth the coin.

[Tackleberry41]

I was not impressed with the XD series, just preference, didn;t like the way it felt in the hand compared to other guns. Got rid of my glock as I didn't like the angle. Friend raves about the HK guns, I just don't like paying for them. I am in the market for a modern 45 ACP, not gonna get rid of my 1911, just want something more modern. Wasn't impressed with the Ruger I handled, you could not just push the empty magazine in and it lock, you had to slap it, and that was an empty one. Have not seen in person the new Ruger pistols. But so far guess means a M&P if I do get one.

[Love Life]

Did you look at the FN line of handguns?

[MTtimberline]

Of those choices the H&K would have my vote. I'd suggest looking at the Walter PPQ which the VP9 is very close to without the premium price. I am very pleased with the PPQ.

[Tackleberry41]

Did you look at the FN line of handguns?

Who me? Yes, I did traded my Glock 23 for a FNS40 not long ago. But they do not make them in 45.

[sandman228]

I cant say anything for or against the h&k I don't know a thing about them . but as far as the springfield xd goes ive got an xd9 sub compact and I'm pretty happy with it ,its a good shooter . I recently traded a glock 22 for an xd40 tactical and really like it so far .

[canyon-ghost]

This is the kind of thread I read to meditate!

[FergusonTO35]

If I had enough cash for an HK I would buy a Browning Hi-Power!

[BigAl52]

Cz75b

[fourarmed]

I once heard a guy say "Colts and Kimbers are the guns I show my friends; Glocks and Sigs are the guns I show my enemies." I have an M&P .45 and wouldn't trade it for any of the other plastic, striker-fired makes. Fits my hand too well, groups too well, and I like the articulated trigger.

[Markbo]

I had an XD compact in .40 and an XD sub compact in 9. Neither fit exactly what I was looking for so I got rid of them and use a KelTec P11 9mm for pocket carry and an XDs .45 IWB if - IF - I dont have my Kimber pro CDP Commander sized 1911 on. I am confident in all of them.

FWIW a few guys have asked me dont I worry about fumbling for a non existant safety or worse, not disengaging the 1911 safety. No I dont. It is automatic to swipe the safey down/off and what I find is I make that same motion with the others...its just not there.

That is also why I dont carry my first 9mm...an S&W 669 that has an up swing for safety off. I have fumbled it on the practice line and lost all confidence in it. I probably should just sell that one. :D

[FergusonTO35]

Springfield just came out with a 5" barrel XD mod. 2, it looks pretty sweet.

[sandman228]

Springfield just came out with a 5" barrel XD mod. 2, it looks pretty sweet. my xd 40 tactical has a 5 inch barrel .I bought it used I have no idea how old it is or isn't lol .

[Clay M]

I have the Springfield XD 9mm, and the S&W M&P .40
I like the M&P best .
I have shot most of the Glocks, as my son is a Glock fan.
I like the Gen 4 Glocks.

I have not shot the H&K

[Markbo]

Yall reminded me... I have some .40 ammo Im not going to use. Need to sell it I guess