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mike69
01-11-2016, 09:36 PM
I would like to get a hollow point bullet mold for my 454 I am looking at the noe 454 265 wfn rg2 mold it would make a 247gr hollow point its the only mold I have fond for it so far that's a hollow point. I liked to get some opinions I have a lbt 280 gr wfn now and like it.I will be using it for deer hunting and I do like to shoot it like a 454 do you think something heavier would be better before I started casting I shoot the 240 xtp mag in a encore 460 s&w 15 inch barrel and it worked pretty good. I have seen a lot on here for the 44mag not so much on the 454 so just thought I would ask for some opinions before I by a mold.

Tatume
01-12-2016, 12:16 PM
Light cast bullets like you're talking about here are difficult to work with using the slow burning powders we like in the 454 Casull (W296, H110, AA #9). If you get them to work, they will be at full power, and your hollow point bullet will probably disintegrate on impact. I recommend a 280 - 320 grain LFN bullet instead, or possibly a SWC in the same weight range.

bearcove
01-12-2016, 12:18 PM
Heavy, and forget about the HP

flint45
01-12-2016, 01:46 PM
I like a 280 gr.big flat point boolit for my needs hits super hard 315 gr for bear loads agin just a big meplat no h.p. good luck.

Doc Highwall
01-12-2016, 01:52 PM
I just bought a Ruger Alaskan that is a Talo distributor special with a 5" barrel that I am going to use in Alaska, and the bullet that I chose is this 350 grain by NOE.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=530&osCsid=ddh09s1l3mtlc97n0b30q9jh15

mike69
01-12-2016, 05:26 PM
Light cast bullets like you're talking about here are difficult to work with using the slow burning powders we like in the 454 Casull (W296, H110, AA #9). If you get them to work, they will be at full power, and your hollow point bullet will probably disintegrate on impact. I recommend a 280 - 320 grain LFN bullet instead, or possibly a SWC in the same weight range.

I am shooting a 280 wfn now I shoot 2 deer with it both neck shots it looked like the bullet just poked a hole threw them I am just concerned about if I shoot one threw the side and it just shoots threw it I might lose the deer the bullets I've recovered from behind my target could almost be loaded again shoot a tree at 100 yrd and the bullet didn't really change just some scratches. Maybe I am just over thinking things

mike69
01-12-2016, 05:31 PM
I just bought a Ruger Alaskan that is a Talo distributor special with a 5" barrel that I am going to use in Alaska, and the bullet that I chose is this 350 grain by NOE.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=530&osCsid=ddh09s1l3mtlc97n0b30q9jh15
I was looking at that one too I like the idea of being able to make the different bullets the same mold if you by the rg molds can you get there molds that are not in stock by contacting them ive never bought from them be for.

tygar
01-12-2016, 06:54 PM
FWIW I have had a 454 since the early 80s & had numerous conversations with Dick Cassul & his son about the "best" bullet etc. Their response was 260 for all but dangerous game & 300 for dangerous. The bullets they specifically made were probably close to the WFN but a little more rounded. I think I still have some left & if so I'll post a pic.

There suggested load for both bullets was all the H110 you could put in the case & still crimp. Now that's in a FA, don't know that it would work in Ruger/Taurus.

I have many molds from 255-350 & have found that the 260-300 is about perfect for me. I do use some in the 310-330gr for my rifle.

Tatume
01-12-2016, 07:40 PM
If you shoot through the heart/lung area of a deer with a 45 caliber cast bullet it will drop him. Their wound capacity is tremendous. You could also soften your alloy a bit too. My experience is that bullets made with clip-on wheel weight metal and allowed to air cool will rivet, but usually not fold back and form a classic mushroom. That's fine, as the disruption associated with deforming that big bullet is going to wreak havoc inside a deer. I've shot a lot of deer with air-cooled, clip-on wheel weight bullets. They work.

LUCKYDAWG13
01-12-2016, 07:50 PM
I have a 300gr H/P mold that works pretty good at a 100 yards in my 454 157968

mike69
01-12-2016, 08:51 PM
sounds like I could just use my 280gr bullet I have just make it softer it is a gas checked bullet and shoots good I've loaded it with a full case of imr 4227 and 296 and ruger shoots them fine I have heard the Taurus is not that strong compared to the FA/Rugers

mike69
01-12-2016, 08:54 PM
I have a 300gr H/P mold that works pretty good at a 100 yards in my 454 157968

That's some nice shooting I've got a encore with a 460 mag barrel I want to start shooting cast in it too

mike69
01-12-2016, 08:59 PM
luckydawg13 Who's bullet mold do you have for that bullet?

LUCKYDAWG13
01-12-2016, 09:35 PM
157984
it's a MP 454-297 i can send you a few if you want to try them

mike69
01-12-2016, 11:14 PM
157984
it's a MP 454-297 i can send you a few if you want to try themhave to check

I will have to check on that one think Id like to have that mold load it in my 454 and 460 thanks for the offer on the bullet. I would like to thank everybody for the advice really helps out with just getting into the cast bullets I enjoy making my own instead of buying jacketed bullets get my handguns figured out just try cast in my 30-30

S.B.
01-25-2016, 05:51 PM
I just bought a Ruger Alaskan that is a Talo distributor special with a 5" barrel that I am going to use in Alaska, and the bullet that I chose is this 350 grain by NOE.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=530&osCsid=ddh09s1l3mtlc97n0b30q9jh15
If, and I mean if, I could get Swede to make one of these in a two cavity PBed, I'd buy it! But, he doesn't seem interested.
Steve