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brassrat
01-11-2016, 11:49 AM
Well maybe not. I am lacking in advice to contribute, as I have been helped, but here goes. I ran across this 'Made For Tv' silicone liner and it might work if anyone wants to search for. Its called Pyramid Pan. You can see the design and it has another side too. I hoped a boolet, especially a small one, would be nicely held, upright and maybe nose down. That may work for some but not with the few boolets I tried. Laying them down might work great thou and hold them from rolling with a little air space too. It's 16"x11" and could be cut.

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l542/g5uis23ft5h/IMG_1443_zpszf04uezw.jpg

brassrat
01-11-2016, 06:15 PM
Spotted at WM today, lol This was found by me as what I thought was new/old stock at the thrift store.

bangerjim
01-11-2016, 07:05 PM
My philosophy is - anything touching the boolits will leave lay marks. Some things less than others.

I stand all my coated boolits up on NSAF to bake. 30's go in fender washers to keep them up. It doesn't take THAT long to do many hundreds of them.......certainly more than I can shoot in a couple weeks.

I get no grooves, lay marks, bare spots, fingerprints, divots.....just smooth shiny boolits nose to base. But, I am a perfectionist.

If others out there try this mat, please post results with close-up hi-rez pictures of baked finishes. New ideas are always welcome!

banger

retread
01-11-2016, 07:13 PM
How about turning it over and put the noses in the valleys?

brassrat
01-11-2016, 07:33 PM
A square boolet is what is needed:-).. I did try both sides. They do seem great to lay down thou. $10 at WM, I don't really want to try mine cause I like cooking and wanna try it that way although some reviews mention a problem with getting them clean, in the recesses.

Motor
01-14-2016, 07:16 PM
I saw those at Wal-Mart when I was looking for silicon baking mats. I almost bought one.

Then I almost bought one again but again didn't. I thought about all the contact points and decided not to.

If you guys want to look at them they are usually in the "seen on tv" section.

Motor

brassrat
01-14-2016, 09:51 PM
I don't think anyone wants to play:kidding:

KSUJedi
01-17-2016, 04:05 AM
158400

Found this silicone trivet at my local Dillons grocery store. Little hexagonal spaces hold up 22 cal perfect.

Artful
01-17-2016, 04:14 AM
158400

Found this silicone trivet at my local Dillons grocery store. Little hexagonal spaces hold up 22 cal perfect.

How big is the diameter of that? Have you used it yet? Have you got a name/website for the maker?

Taylor
01-17-2016, 07:51 AM
What Art said!

KSUJedi
01-17-2016, 11:11 AM
158404

Yep, have used it and works great. Here's a pic of another one I just got so that I can be loading one up while the other is cooking.

"Core kitchen" is the brand, although found some online that at least look similar but are under the name "Gourmet Club". Works basically like the fender washer method, but no work involved in building, and no need for additional NSAF (which I haven't had good luck with holding up). It says it's for temp up to 450, which would seem to be cutting it a little close, but I haven't seen any signs of degradation after multiple cooks.

Pic shows that it's just over 7" round, and a couple coated bullets with it. Depth comes up to just higher than the gas check shank, but didn't seem to affect coating on the shank or bottom part of driving band, and no lay marks. I originally got it for laying long 30 cal boolits on to try to have minimal lay marks, which it's just ok with, then discovered that this is its true calling.

I spaced them out which made it a little easier to place them all with hemostats, they can go in just fine right next to each other to cram more on, would just make it tight work so depending on your dexterity with hemostats..... I got about 100 on there spacing them out.

Now I just need to find one that has spots that fit a 30cal gas check shank!

Ballistics in Scotland
01-17-2016, 11:53 AM
A square boolet is what is needed:-).. I did try both sides. They do seem great to lay down thou. $10 at WM, I don't really want to try mine cause I like cooking and wanna try it that way although some reviews mention a problem with getting them clean, in the recesses.

It has been done, in an effort to ""convince the Turks of the benefits of Christian civilization".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

I'd be more inclined to rely on double sided tape, or paper lightly sprinkled with shellac powder.

BaconStrips
01-18-2016, 05:05 AM
Or there is this one that's good to 600f.
158476
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/silicone-trivet/
Nonslip silicone trivet is heat resistant to 600°F/315°c.

7" sq.
$11.95

therealhitman
01-18-2016, 05:16 AM
A square boolet is what is needed:-)...

Now THAT'S revolutionary!

brassrat
01-18-2016, 06:08 AM
Great work out there on my revolution!! No longer will potential little soldiers be made to lie down. Now load up that, square, pork fat, ammo!

Markbo
01-18-2016, 06:18 PM
I wonder if .45 revolver bullets.would fit nose down???

Edit: I had to go to Walmart so I took.some .45 boolits with me. It will hold them by the nose. So long as its already on a flat sheet or screen it should be easy to transfer into the oven.

OnceFired
01-21-2016, 10:32 PM
I found this one on Amazon, then looked up the manufacturer direct. It appears to be imported from China, but the company is here in the USA.

158747

It's good up to 675 degrees and available in a bunch of different colors. Best part is they're just $6.50 and currently on sale for $5.00 each. Shipping appears to be $12-$15 for up to 10 or so from my experiments on their web store.

I've requested exact dimensions of the overall trivet and of the individual hexagons inside.

OF

waksupi
01-22-2016, 12:20 AM
I found this one on Amazon, then looked up the manufacturer direct. It appears to be imported from China, but the company is here in the USA.

158747

It's good up to 675 degrees and available in a bunch of different colors. Best part is they're just $6.50 and currently on sale for $5.00 each. Shipping appears to be $12-$15 for up to 10 or so from my experiments on their web store.

I've requested exact dimensions of the overall trivet and of the individual hexagons inside.

OF

Got a link?

OnceFired
01-22-2016, 01:15 AM
Shoot. I thought I linked the image. http://www.lamsonsharp.com/product/honeycomb-hotspot

retread
01-22-2016, 01:31 AM
Shoot. I thought I linked the image. http://www.lamsonsharp.com/product/honeycomb-hotspot

Hard to tell from the picture what the pocket ID would be. Would be nice to know before ordering and find out they are 1/8"!

Dragonheart
01-22-2016, 10:38 AM
Found some on of the hex shape on Ebay for $1.79 including shipping coming from China, but they are all made there anyway. Used search: silicon trivet. These sound like a good idea as long as the base can be fully supported to create a flat base; that's the problem with laying the bullets down, uneven base.

OnceFired
01-22-2016, 10:56 AM
@dragonheart
What temperature can the cheap ones handle? What dimensions on the hexagons?

Dragonheart
01-22-2016, 11:08 AM
My silicone flat baking mats are rated for 500 degrees, and would assume these will be the similar, guess I will find out.

Markbo
01-22-2016, 03:10 PM
Hard to tell from the picture what the pocket ID would be. Would be nice to know before ordering and find out they are 1/8"!
That looks like the same one I got at Walmart. Several different .45 bullets held just fine an smaller would hold better. Didnt check anything larger

OnceFired
03-25-2016, 11:11 PM
Hey all

Thought I'd bump the thread a bit. I found a 3-pack of silicon trivets on Ebay for just $0.99 with free shipping. They appear to be the same as the much more expensive ones but they are dirt cheap.

Guess I'll find out if they're worthless or not soon.

They are found at http://www.ebay.com/itm/291572297403

Here are photos of them with a few of my first cast 22 boolits from this week. These are not my keepers - I just grabbed something to put into the hexagons for shape.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1615/26012137756_4d9d2d8ce4_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FCB1iJ)Silicon trivets hold 22 bullets (https://flic.kr/p/FCB1iJ)

Here's a closeup.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1611/25945534802_c8c2d55f1c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FwHDyW)Close up shot of my 22s (https://flic.kr/p/FwHDyW)

I've asked the seller what temperature these are good for - I am waiting to hear back. At $0.33 each including delivery the price cannot be beaten. If they stand up to the heat in the convection oven, I'll get enough of these to cover at least 6 trays so I can have 3 in the convection oven and 3 being prepped.

OnceFired
03-26-2016, 09:16 PM
And they work. 20 minutes at 400 in my Moulinex Moulin-air convection oven and the silicon trivet came out with no marks or melting. The black marks are the powder coat color I used.

Shoot I cannot easily upload from my phone. More photos shortly.

And now with a photo
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1603/25787935750_07eb324c0b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FhMURU)First try at powder coated bullets (https://flic.kr/p/FhMURU)

Dragonheart
03-27-2016, 09:25 AM
To my knowledge I am the first to introduce silicone baking mats to this site. I don't know about the trivets, but my mats were advertised for use up to 500 degree temp. I have been using the same silicon mats for two years, cooking tens of thousands of bullets and they still work like new.

OnceFired
03-28-2016, 11:38 PM
The mats / trivets are very similar. The ones above are rated to 450 - got that from the Ebay seller, who took it from item description he has.

Since I have a convection oven, I was hoping to have several square wire (hardware cloth type) shelves with the trivet / mat material laid over it so that boolits wouldn't drop through but the air could circulate easily in the oven.

Alas, that strategy will not work because the boolits roll around and come off the mats quite easily if they aren't placed in there vertically on the base. I need trays with a lip that is more like a cookie sheet for that.

And frankly my first batch was 352 projectiles which would have been a royal pain to place them all on the trivets. As it was, I realized just the effort of taking them out of the powdercoat bowl with hemastats was laborious let alone placing them neatly. That would have doubled my time at least.

But, if I want to go with super-sweet looking PC boolits I can now do that with these trivets. Good find overall and I would never have tried without your idea Dragonheart.

Norbrat
03-29-2016, 01:10 AM
It has been done, in an effort to ""convince the Turks of the benefits of Christian civilization".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

And even more disturbingly, very recently on the East German border. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM-70

A payload of 80 steel cubes?? Nice! :sad:

kbstenberg
02-25-2017, 12:20 AM
Has anyone found any trays for bullets larger than 22's?

NavyVet1959
02-25-2017, 12:55 AM
Hey all

Thought I'd bump the thread a bit. I found a 3-pack of silicon trivets on Ebay for just $0.99 with free shipping. They appear to be the same as the much more expensive ones but they are dirt cheap.

Guess I'll find out if they're worthless or not soon.

They are found at http://www.ebay.com/itm/291572297403

I think that is the wrong link you posted... That one is for a wall-mount liquid soap / shampoo dispenser.

Lloyd Smale
03-01-2017, 11:54 AM
bought a bunch of different silicone matt things to hold bullets when I started the 22 cal thing because they were so hard to stack. Smoke suggested just dumping on foil and baking. He said the little bullets didn't tend to leave as bad of marks as the big bullets. I gave it a try and hes right. bake them and recoat and bake a second time and there about perfect. Still less work then trying to stack those tiny bullet in a tray with my club fingers or a pair of tweezers or needle nose pliers. What I did with the 22 gas checked bullets Was cast them put on checks and size. tumble and bake, let cool tumble and bake a second time, water drop them when there done and size again. If you get a few different batches going so you at different steps with the different batches it doesn't take any more time. Bullets looked better then the bigger ones ive stood and done one coat on. So my wife inherited about a dozen of those silicone pot holders. They actually work pretty good for that!

Littlewolf
03-03-2017, 11:53 PM
has anyone tried the melt threshold of a plastic large primer tray. the hols fit the base of a 225450 boolit great. i havent tried coating the 22s though